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Subject: Which STORY is better? Reach or ODST?

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Poll: Which STORY is better? Reach or ODST?  [closed]
ODST's story is better.:  83%
(54 Votes)
Reach's story is better.:  17%
(11 Votes)
Total Votes: 65

I wanted to emphasize story. I realize there is a Reach vs. ODST thread, but that's a game as a whole. I want to know what you guys think on just the story.

  • 04.06.2011 12:04 PM PDT

ODST easily.

  • 04.06.2011 12:09 PM PDT

Walk by faith. Dude. Not by sight.

Although Reach is the better game overall, ODSTs story is better.

  • 04.06.2011 12:21 PM PDT

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Definatly ODST.

  • 04.06.2011 11:47 PM PDT

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I really like ODST's story.

  • 04.07.2011 12:08 AM PDT

Reach felt to much like 'go here, shoot this, destroy that'

The missions wern't connected, like in previous halo games.

ODST seemed to flow just nicely :)

  • 04.07.2011 5:00 AM PDT

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Reach's would've been the best if they followed the book more...

  • 04.07.2011 5:13 AM PDT
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Keep it simple stupid.

Yeah the book would have made the best story for Reach, it might have actually made a good halo game.

  • 04.07.2011 5:34 AM PDT

Do anyone else think they pretty much wasted the opportunity of making the arrival of the covenant fleet at Reach appear more crushing. What we got was essentially *WARNING! SPOILER AHEAD!* a short, static-laden glimpse of ships jumping in from slipspace accompanied by bursts of UNMC chatter *SPOILER ENDS HERE!*. I was hoping for a somewhat more prominent depiction where we would have got to bear witness to the massive scale of the covenant fleet, perhaps with a couple of "My god! There's no way we're getting past that!"-moments. A bit clichéd perhaps, and it might have contradicted the above mentioned book, but I don't think it would have seemed out of place. Oh well, I shall not whine too much since on the whole I very much appreciate what Halo: Reach has to offer. But I'd still like to hear people's thoughts on this alternative depiction..

  • 04.07.2011 6:34 AM PDT

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Heck, I still enjoy the campaign of ODST. I just played a game of it last night too:
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  • 04.07.2011 8:33 AM PDT

ODST by a mile.

  • 04.07.2011 8:44 AM PDT

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  • 04.07.2011 8:48 AM PDT

ODST. I didn't think that Reach's story flowed.

  • 04.07.2011 10:13 AM PDT

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ODST had a great story. Reach's had no continuality, and the characters were awful.

  • 04.07.2011 12:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: CapttainNEM0
Yeah the book would have made the best story for Reach, it might have actually made a good halo game.

Agreed. Reach left a scar... I thought it was going to be the best Halo, but only turned out to be the worst. Bungie broke canon and then threw on a half-assed story on top of that. Just terrible...

ODST's was so much more enjoyable. One of the best Halo campaigns.

  • 04.07.2011 1:14 PM PDT

I like Call of Duty and Gears of War, AND Halo. Why must everyone else like only one or the other?

This is no contest at all. ODST for sure. It has the best campaign of all the games, tied only with Halo 2 IMO. If Reach hadn't completely pissed all over long established canon, maybe it would've had a chance. Sadly, that wasn't the case.

  • 04.07.2011 5:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: The Elite Elite
If Reach hadn't completely pissed all over long established canon, maybe it would've had a chance.

I disagree, maybe if Staten had wrote it and the story was much better then it became, "ruining" canon wouldn't have been a problem. But the story suffers from the lack of *insert anything here* that it just kinda tanked.

ODST does have the better campaign, because it was different and unique to everything that came before it. I'm still torn to say whether or not the story was any better, but certainly the campaign was enjoyable because it was different enough.

  • 04.07.2011 5:22 PM PDT

I like Call of Duty and Gears of War, AND Halo. Why must everyone else like only one or the other?


Posted by: Toa TAK
I disagree, maybe if Staten had wrote it and the story was much better then it became, "ruining" canon wouldn't have been a problem.


Well, one of the things that would've made the story much better would be not completely rewriting Halo history. Don't get me wrong, I understand over time some things get rewritten or ignored after a franchise expands (like the change of Johnson's immunity from the Flood), but there are just so many things the Reach campaign completely changes that it becomes impossible to be able to enjoy as part of the Halo lore, lame story or not.

  • 04.07.2011 7:19 PM PDT

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ODST because it doesn't destroy the canon of the Halo Universe.

  • 04.07.2011 8:21 PM PDT

Uhh yeah Halo is awesome, go Bungie!

ODST totally takes the cake despite lighting issues.

  • 04.07.2011 8:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Toa TAK
Posted by: The Elite Elite
If Reach hadn't completely pissed all over long established canon, maybe it would've had a chance.

I disagree, maybe if Staten had wrote it and the story was much better then it became, "ruining" canon wouldn't have been a problem. But the story suffers from the lack of *insert anything here* that it just kinda tanked.

ODST does have the better campaign, because it was different and unique to everything that came before it. I'm still torn to say whether or not the story was any better, but certainly the campaign was enjoyable because it was different enough.

It broke canon, but it also had a half-assed story with crappy character development. I like the ODST squad. Throughout the campaign I really began to like them. With Reach...no character development. Didn't really care about them. Not to mention the whole campaign was: go here, shoot this, blow up that. Nothing seemed important at all. The whole huge global battle feeling was not there at all. And...what Covenant fleet? I bet somebody completely new to Halo wouldn't have known a HUGE Covenant fleet was invading. It was so poorly done. Ruined the canon. And was just overall the biggest disappointment. Which, make me think Reach is an abomination of a game and that Bungie focused more on multiplayer and other features instead of the campaign.

  • 04.08.2011 3:35 AM PDT

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It's funny, you say they focused primarily on multiplayer and even that didn't come out good.. heh.

  • 04.08.2011 12:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Toa TAK
Posted by: The Elite Elite
If Reach hadn't completely pissed all over long established canon, maybe it would've had a chance.

I disagree, maybe if Staten had wrote it and the story was much better then it became, "ruining" canon wouldn't have been a problem. But the story suffers from the lack of *insert anything here* that it just kinda tanked.

ODST does have the better campaign, because it was different and unique to everything that came before it. I'm still torn to say whether or not the story was any better, but certainly the campaign was enjoyable because it was different enough.

It broke canon, but it also had a half-assed story with crappy character development. I like the ODST squad. Throughout the campaign I really began to like them. With Reach...no character development. Didn't really care about them. Not to mention the whole campaign was: go here, shoot this, blow up that. Nothing seemed important at all. The whole huge global battle feeling was not there at all. And...what Covenant fleet? I bet somebody completely new to Halo wouldn't have known a HUGE Covenant fleet was invading. It was so poorly done. Ruined the canon. And was just overall the biggest disappointment. Which, make me think Reach is an abomination of a game and that Bungie focused more on multiplayer and other features instead of the campaign.


I think one of the reasons the ODST characters are more successful here is simple because their personalities were much more enjoyable then the super-serious Spartans. They joked, they complained, and really acted like a group of friends. Nothing like the Spartans who, in my opinion, should've felt just as much as a family.

And objective wise, the ODST wasn't much different when it came to gameplay, you're still just shooting/defending, and occasionally pressing a button. No real difference there, even story-wise. ODST and Reach share one thing in common when it comes to story though, everything prior to the last two levels don't mean a damn thing.

And yes, the Reach campaign was a disappointment, there was hardly anything "epic" about it. Which really blew a hole through most of us who have been a longtime fan of the franchise.

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Posted by: Toa TAK
I disagree, maybe if Staten had wrote it and the story was much better then it became, "ruining" canon wouldn't have been a problem.


Well, one of the things that would've made the story much better would be not completely rewriting Halo history. Don't get me wrong, I understand over time some things get rewritten or ignored after a franchise expands (like the change of Johnson's immunity from the Flood), but there are just so many things the Reach campaign completely changes that it becomes impossible to be able to enjoy as part of the Halo lore, lame story or not.


Honestly, none of us really know how people would look at the canon changes if the story was much more enjoyable, if everything was better and they didn't jump around with other story elements. I'm a hardcore fan of the fiction as well, but if Bungie want's to change it, by all means, I could care less. The books were a fun read, but if it means changing canon for a better story for the games, I'm up for it. Since the games are the main core of the franchise, anyways. But they didn't. The story stunk, and while I still don't give a damn that they changed canon, I am disappointed with what we got instead.

Posted by: funnymann
It's funny, you say they focused primarily on multiplayer and even that didn't come out good.. heh.

Aside from enjoying it, I'm not touching that subject. =P

  • 04.08.2011 2:29 PM PDT

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Reach is better overall but ODST had by far the best story.

  • 04.08.2011 3:04 PM PDT

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