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Subject: Why didn't the Arbiter fight Humans in H2?
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You get to kill a human in ODST.

"I'm sorry, I can't let you live"

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  • 04.10.2011 7:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: Nomanisat
If the Covenant had never attacked humanity would Whitcomb have the blood on his hands? We didn't start this war, but we damn well mean to win it.

We had more intention of just surviving...about 2/3 of the population was in the military by 2552...and the civilians who werent soldiers were most likely helping the war effort somehow

  • 04.10.2011 7:53 PM PDT

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WTF? What Halo 2 are you guys playing? I specifically remember hating to play the Arbiter, BECAUSE you had to kill humans. Especially the mission where you had to retrieve the key to fire Delta Halo. I was always faced with the choice of:
A) Kill the humans and feel bad that I was killing my own kind.
Or
B) Try to skirt by them and risk getting blasted, run over, shot, or some other viscous form of death the human AI could come up with.

  • 04.10.2011 7:59 PM PDT
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Your either trolling, or you were fighting human flood.

  • 04.10.2011 8:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dogface1998
WTF? What Halo 2 are you guys playing? I specifically remember hating to play the Arbiter, BECAUSE you had to kill humans. Especially the mission where you had to retrieve the key to fire Delta Halo. I was always faced with the choice of:
A) Kill the humans and feel bad that I was killing my own kind.
Or
B) Try to skirt by them and risk getting blasted, run over, shot, or some other viscous form of death the human AI could come up with.

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You mean the Flood-infected humans?

  • 04.10.2011 8:01 PM PDT

Living under a bridge all of your life has it's consequences.


Posted by: Onyx81
Your either trolling, or you were fighting human flood.
Good call on me trolling! I would have DEFINATELY worded my post the way I did since I was trolling! And yeah, they were actual humans I was fighting. I will replay the mission again today to find that the same humans who killed me ruthlessly are still their doing the same thing: killing me.

[Edited on 04.10.2011 8:06 PM PDT]

  • 04.10.2011 8:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: Onyx81
Your either trolling, or you were fighting human flood.
Good call on me trolling! I would have DEFINATELY worded my post the way I did since I was trolling! And yeah, they were actual humans I was fighting. I will replay the mission again today to find that the same humans who killed me ruthlessly are still their doing the same thing: killing me.
I would very much like if you could use any kind of means of recording and post you killing humans as the Arbiter.

Until then, I'm calling you a troll.

P.S. I already know about the grenade jumping trick you can use to get to some marines and kill them.

[Edited on 04.10.2011 8:18 PM PDT]

  • 04.10.2011 8:17 PM PDT

Spartans never die... they just revert to last checkpoint.

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  • 04.10.2011 8:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Onyx81
Your either trolling, or you were fighting human flood.
Good call on me trolling! I would have DEFINATELY worded my post the way I did since I was trolling! And yeah, they were actual humans I was fighting. I will replay the mission again today to find that the same humans who killed me ruthlessly are still their doing the same thing: killing me.
I would very much like if you could use any kind of means of recording and post you killing humans as the Arbiter.

Until then, I'm calling you a troll.

P.S. I already know about the grenade jumping trick you can use to get to some marines and kill them.


What trick? There's a squad of about 10 Marines in one of the corridors with Flood, you just walk around the corner and there they are shooting at you.

  • 04.10.2011 11:56 PM PDT


Posted by: I Judge Bread I
What trick? There's a squad of about 10 Marines in one of the corridors with Flood, you just walk around the corner and there they are shooting at you.

On Sacred Icon, there's a spot where there is marine-combat flood going on across a gap, and you can grenade jump over to it.

However, in standard gameplay, I know of no situation where you fight humans in Halo 2.

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I agree that that is quite annoying, by the way. Due to Halo 1's style of having elites actually being aggressive warriors, I always had difficulty accepting that they were supposed to be of the same group as Halo 2's hammy pseudoshakespearean box-climbers. I think it would have improved my sense of the Arbiter's identity immensely to introduce him with something that would convince me that he dislikes humanity in more than just overt speech.

  • 04.11.2011 12:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: Nomanisat
As it is they try to paint him as some tragic figure, who lost his honour and accepted s suicide mission in some heroic attempt to regain it.
Isn't that what becoming the Arbiter is about?


I guess for the player it wouldn't have felt right killing your own kind. Possibly too confusing for some? I dunno. All i know is that Halo 2 has the best campaign in the series.

  • 04.11.2011 5:12 AM PDT

Because he was told not to. He swore he would "continue his campaign against the humans." but Truth said simply "No... you will not." Arbiters are used more to crush dissention in the ranks than fight an opponent.

  • 04.11.2011 6:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

They should have allowed us to kill humans, if was kind of dumb how we never faced any human forces while seeking the Index on Delta Halo... Only Flood in human vehicles. I guess Bungie dosent like us killing humans?

(Note: The only human that you legit kill is the corrupt police officer in ODST)

  • 04.11.2011 10:15 AM PDT
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I don't think Bungie really cares if you kill humans. They put an insane human that most of us probably chose to kill in 343 guilty spark in CE. And almost make it humorous to watch some of the ways humans can die from either covenant or friendly fire.

  • 04.11.2011 12:25 PM PDT


Posted by: Nomanisat
The NOVA wouldn't have killed anyone if A) the Covenant had never stolen it in the first place and B), they never attacked us. It would also help if they kept the damn fingers out of things they don't understand!

Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do even the score.


A) That was always a Covie colony

B) Arbiter didn't start the war. Everyone is as guilty as anyone else.

  • 04.11.2011 2:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: Dogface1998

Posted by: Onyx81
Your either trolling, or you were fighting human flood.
Good call on me trolling! I would have DEFINATELY worded my post the way I did since I was trolling! And yeah, they were actual humans I was fighting. I will replay the mission again today to find that the same humans who killed me ruthlessly are still their doing the same thing: killing me.
I would very much like if you could use any kind of means of recording and post you killing humans as the Arbiter.

Until then, I'm calling you a troll.

P.S. I already know about the grenade jumping trick you can use to get to some marines and kill them.


What trick? There's a squad of about 10 Marines in one of the corridors with Flood, you just walk around the corner and there they are shooting at you.
Well if this is true, then I apologize.

  • 04.11.2011 3:17 PM PDT

I wanted to see that as well.

  • 04.11.2011 4:16 PM PDT
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I remember seeing a video of someone managing to keep the humans alive that get ambushed in Sacred Icon.

They are hostile and appear as enemies on the motion tracker and reticle.

In Quarantine Zone a Human controlled Pelican fires at you, that's about it.

But as many have quoted Truth does say you won't continue Arbiter's campaign against the humans. That's his punishment.

  • 04.11.2011 4:24 PM PDT

I know that it was a Covenant colony, what I meant was that if they hadn't attacked humanity we would never have built the NOVA in the first place.

  • 04.11.2011 4:50 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten

I always thought the arbiter never made it in time on the Flood mission.

  • 04.11.2011 5:12 PM PDT

Even the greatest were once at the bottom.

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I don't think Bungie really cares if you kill humans. They put an insane human that most of us probably chose to kill in 343 guilty spark in CE. And almost make it humorous to watch some of the ways humans can die from either covenant or friendly fire.


Have any one of you played Marathon before?

The player is encourage to "never ever leave a single BoB alive." Bobs are human civilians on board the Marathon.


You sir, must be a Vidmaster.

*bows in honor*

  • 04.11.2011 5:57 PM PDT

Glory and fame, blood is our name!
Souls full of thunder, hearts of steel!
Killers of men, a warrior's friend!
Sworn to avenge our fallen brothers!
Sons of the gods, today we shall die.
Open Valhalla's door!
Let the battle begin, with swords in the wind! Hail Gods of War!

'Cause killing marines would've been relatively easy. It'd be like killing a squad of Jackals, without any shield gauntlets.

  • 04.11.2011 6:02 PM PDT

Glory and fame, blood is our name!
Souls full of thunder, hearts of steel!
Killers of men, a warrior's friend!
Sworn to avenge our fallen brothers!
Sons of the gods, today we shall die.
Open Valhalla's door!
Let the battle begin, with swords in the wind! Hail Gods of War!


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Posted by: sidebeef
I don't think Bungie really cares if you kill humans. They put an insane human that most of us probably chose to kill in 343 guilty spark in CE. And almost make it humorous to watch some of the ways humans can die from either covenant or friendly fire.


Have any one of you played Marathon before?

The player is encourage to "never ever leave a single BoB alive." Bobs are human civilians on board the Marathon.


You sir, must be a Vidmaster.

*bows in honor*


What? Leela always got pissed at me when the civies all died.

  • 04.11.2011 6:03 PM PDT

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