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Subject: The UNSC "Fill the gaps" thread for armoury - post yours!

"A LIE is a LIE"


- Truly intelligent and deep Black ops trailer

Its time we fill the gaps in the UNSC armoury. This thread evolved from my earlier thread about APC's and IFV's.


Here's a few things UNSC need to have.

1. APC/IFV.
2. Vertical take-off jet.
3. Artillery unit.
4. Unmanned ground-based vehicle.
5. Attack boat for water-based warfare.
6. Small, armed UAV.
7. Light machine gun that you can carry.
8. Stealth jet for very long range bombing, maybe with cloak capabilities.


I'll fill the first Gap. For an APC, I would call it the armadillo, and it would look along the lines of this APC, It would have a light auto cannon, a space where spartans can freely move around and somewhat the same health as a Scorpion.


Post away!

[Edited on 04.11.2011 5:42 AM PDT]

  • 04.11.2011 5:36 AM PDT

Stonehenge

Aigaion

And a new version of the Flak 88




[Edited on 04.11.2011 5:52 AM PDT]

  • 04.11.2011 5:44 AM PDT

3. There are Mortars fired on Tip of the Spear and Highlands, someone needs to look into this.


6. F-99 Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle
7. AIE-486H Heavy Machine Gun
8. GA-TL1 Longsword-class Interceptor

  • 04.11.2011 7:13 AM PDT

been speculating for a while that the Longsword has low radar cross section, like a modern stealth. look at the shape of it and compare it to something like a B-2 bomber and maybe, just maybe they are hard to detect on radar, so the long range stealth bomber could very well already exist in Halo and its called the Longsword.

Edit: also the VTOL already exists, the Hornet, Sparrow-hawk and Vulture fit into that category, though the Sparrow-hawk is a pretty unique unit that is only fielded in Halo: Wars by Professor Anders, that doesn't mean they won't exist anywhere else in the Halo Universe mind. also water transport is rather pointless when you have vehicles such as the Hornet and Pelican at your disposal.

[Edited on 04.11.2011 7:26 AM PDT]

  • 04.11.2011 7:23 AM PDT

"A LIE is a LIE"


- Truly intelligent and deep Black ops trailer


Posted by: mojeda101
3. There are Mortars fired on Tip of the Spear and Highlands, someone needs to look into this.


6. F-99 Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle
7. AIE-486H Heavy Machine Gun
8. GA-TL1 Longsword-class Interceptor


No 6 isn't that small. I'm talking about something which can be carried in battle by soldiers, like a UAV mini copter.
No 7 is not a LMG, its a HMG, I'm talking about the real world SAW ect.
No 8 isn't really a stealth craft.

[Edited on 04.11.2011 7:25 AM PDT]

  • 04.11.2011 7:23 AM PDT

there is something that fits your small armed UAV perfectly, its from the Warhammer 40,000 universe and its used by a race called the Tau, called Gun Drones, here is a picture, the one of the left is a 'Heavy Gun Drone with two Burst Cannons' and the one of the right is a standard Gun Drone:

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/dick101/WH40k/drones.gif

  • 04.11.2011 7:31 AM PDT

Nemo Me Impune Lacessit

well acutally i have 2 awnsers to number 3
3 i) Earthshaker. a large set Artillery pice used in fortified positions. similar in nature to the big bertha guns used by the -blam!-s in normandy.

ii) moblie Artillery "phenoix" a small artillery gun capable of ranges up to 60 miles uses GPS systems to hit acuratly within 2meters of target. or can be linked to a laser designator carried by a recon team and thereafter guided on to target

  • 04.11.2011 10:07 AM PDT
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Artillery has been mentioned in the novels, although I don't think there's been much specifics. Ghosts of Onyx does mention a 'four forty' artillery piece. Possibly 440 mm, though that would be pretty big.

It would be nice to see an IFV.

been speculating for a while that the Longsword has low radar cross section, like a modern stealth. look at the shape of it and compare it to something like a B-2 bomber and maybe, just maybe they are hard to detect on radar, so the long range stealth bomber could very well already exist in Halo and its called the Longsword.

Yeah, I figure its possible that the longsword already fills that role.

also the VTOL already exists, the Hornet, Sparrow-hawk and Vulture fit into that category, though the Sparrow-hawk is a pretty unique unit that is only fielded in Halo: Wars by Professor Anders, that doesn't mean they won't exist anywhere else in the Halo Universe mind. also water transport is rather pointless when you have vehicles such as the Hornet and Pelican at your disposal.

There's also the Skyhawk jump jet in TFOR. Supersonic flight, antitank missiles, and 50 mm canons.

  • 04.11.2011 10:29 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

5. UNSC have them,play the Halo 3 level longshore and observe,and Reach had concept of little armed boats.But that's the point of having a sea navy if you have a space navy,those boats are useless to a space faring empire.

  • 04.11.2011 12:08 PM PDT

http://www.halo-forum.com

There is an APC in the UNSC arsenal, we just never see it in action. Look at the Vehicle in the left of this piece of concept art. There is also one seen in the Patrol video, part of the "Remember Reach" campaign.

On another note, just because we don't directly see something in a game or other form of media does not mean it isn't there. Realistically the UNSC would have all the things a modern day military has and then some. There is no way that a military organisation 500 years in the future will have neglected to include an LMG into their arsenal. The relatively limited amount of gear seen so far is mainly due to gameplay choices.

  • 04.11.2011 1:58 PM PDT

"A LIE is a LIE"


- Truly intelligent and deep Black ops trailer


Posted by: switch 104 sv
There is an APC in the UNSC arsenal, we just never see it in action. Look at the Vehicle in the left of this piece of concept art. There is also one seen in the Patrol video, part of the "Remember Reach" campaign.

On another note, just because we don't directly see something in a game or other form of media does not mean it isn't there. Realistically the UNSC would have all the things a modern day military has and then some. There is no way that a military organisation 500 years in the future will have neglected to include an LMG into their arsenal. The relatively limited amount of gear seen so far is mainly due to gameplay choices.


Thanks for links.

I'm not really saying that the UNSC doesn't have one, i'm just saying we should fill the gaps with our own idea's.

  • 04.11.2011 2:14 PM PDT

~Thomsn0w


Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
been speculating for a while that the Longsword has low radar cross section, like a modern stealth. look at the shape of it and compare it to something like a B-2 bomber and maybe, just maybe they are hard to detect on radar, so the long range stealth bomber could very well already exist in Halo and its called the Longsword.

Edit: also the VTOL already exists, the Hornet, Sparrow-hawk and Vulture fit into that category, though the Sparrow-hawk is a pretty unique unit that is only fielded in Halo: Wars by Professor Anders, that doesn't mean they won't exist anywhere else in the Halo Universe mind. also water transport is rather pointless when you have vehicles such as the Hornet and Pelican at your disposal.

Longsword has VTOL if you look at Combat Evolved.

  • 04.11.2011 2:16 PM PDT

http://www.halo-forum.com

Posted by: Pipboy 3050

Posted by: switch 104 sv
There is an APC in the UNSC arsenal, we just never see it in action. Look at the Vehicle in the left of this piece of concept art. There is also one seen in the Patrol video, part of the "Remember Reach" campaign.

On another note, just because we don't directly see something in a game or other form of media does not mean it isn't there. Realistically the UNSC would have all the things a modern day military has and then some. There is no way that a military organisation 500 years in the future will have neglected to include an LMG into their arsenal. The relatively limited amount of gear seen so far is mainly due to gameplay choices.


Thanks for links.

I'm not really saying that the UNSC doesn't have one, i'm just saying we should fill the gaps with our own idea's.

Well I think most nyou listed have been addressed. The APC is there, there's a kick ass LMG in the same pic and most of the other vehicles we already have in one form or another. As for artillery, this might interest you: Big Guns, and there is also some Boats.

  • 04.11.2011 2:22 PM PDT

I'm agent Nahman Jayden, eff-bee-eye.


Posted by: switch 104 sv
concept art
*sigh* Reach had so much potential to be awesome... :(

  • 04.11.2011 2:58 PM PDT


Posted by: Pipboy 3050

Posted by: mojeda101
3. There are Mortars fired on Tip of the Spear and Highlands, someone needs to look into this.


6. F-99 Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle
7. AIE-486H Heavy Machine Gun
8. GA-TL1 Longsword-class Interceptor


No 6 isn't that small. I'm talking about something which can be carried in battle by soldiers, like a UAV mini copter.
No 7 is not a LMG, its a HMG, I'm talking about the real world SAW ect.
No 8 isn't really a stealth craft.


I think it would be a stealth craft. I mean we're already making all of our new jets and helicopters operate at a stealth capacity (i.e. F-22 Raptor, RAH-66 Comanche, V-22 Osprey[isn't ocmpletely stealth, but has radar dampening paint scheme]) and its only the 21st century. And like the previous post says, the Longsword has a very small radar cross section. And it's extremely angular just like the stealth jets of today.

The wombat is also most likely stealth.

  • 04.11.2011 3:04 PM PDT

http://www.halo-forum.com

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Posted by: switch 104 sv
concept art
*sigh* Reach had so much potential to be awesome... :(

Indeed. Even just one huge battle between two armies would have made it so much better. I don't mind the small squad skirmishes for the most part but Tip of the Spear didn't live up to it's opening cutscene's potential.

  • 04.11.2011 3:07 PM PDT

what is that aircraft in the Reach concept art as well, cause it ain't a Hornet, it ain't a Pelican, love threads like this personally, always great to exercise our creativity a bit. also agree with the F-99 Wombat being stealthy, just look at the shape, matte black coating, its certainly a very high speed stealth drone. seen how fast they move as well? on the level 'Uplift Reserve' you see one streaking across the scene almost immediately after the start, its gotta be pushing a couple of times the speed of sound, at low level as well.

  • 04.11.2011 3:17 PM PDT

http://www.halo-forum.com

Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
what is that aircraft in the Reach concept art as well, cause it ain't a Hornet, it ain't a Pelican, love threads like this personally, always great to exercise our creativity a bit. also agree with the F-99 Wombat being stealthy, just look at the shape, matte black coating, its certainly a very high speed stealth drone. seen how fast they move as well? on the level 'Uplift Reserve' you see one streaking across the scene almost immediately after the start, its gotta be pushing a couple of times the speed of sound, at low level as well.

It seems to be a Sparrowhawk or something similar. Probably the UNSCs equivalent to an Apache Gunship. More links

  • 04.11.2011 4:16 PM PDT
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Since most of the suggestions in the OP have been answered I'll just make some random vehicles.

Puma- Multipurpose utility vehicle. Basically an uparmored Warthog with a smaller single barrelled remote controlled gun on the roof operated by someone inside.

Wasp- Small lightweight recon UAV that can be deployed by infantry.

Tigershark- A boat with a gun. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-agwf_h0y5ek/TVmjaNvu3HI/AAAAAAAAAKQ /lhIPEz9rNf4/s1600/ih_boat01.jpg

Falcon Fighter- A VTOL strike fighter cut from Halo Wars http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Falcon_(Fighter)

Kodiak- Heavy main battle tank. Weighs 100 tons, has one 125mm cannon, two 50 cal machine guns, and two small Anvil missile racks each carrying two missiles.


  • 04.11.2011 5:20 PM PDT

"A LIE is a LIE"


- Truly intelligent and deep Black ops trailer


Posted by: switch 104 sv
Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
what is that aircraft in the Reach concept art as well, cause it ain't a Hornet, it ain't a Pelican, love threads like this personally, always great to exercise our creativity a bit. also agree with the F-99 Wombat being stealthy, just look at the shape, matte black coating, its certainly a very high speed stealth drone. seen how fast they move as well? on the level 'Uplift Reserve' you see one streaking across the scene almost immediately after the start, its gotta be pushing a couple of times the speed of sound, at low level as well.

It seems to be a Sparrowhawk or something similar. Probably the UNSCs equivalent to an Apache Gunship. More links


Wow! if you go on the link supplied in that website, you get a huge list of concept art space ships.

Nice link, man

  • 04.11.2011 5:31 PM PDT

1. transport hog
2. no need for a super fast jet when whenever you need that kind of speed you'll be far away with plenty of space to store your toys. VTOL is only for local ops cuz if you really need a jet that bad you can call one from your spaceship. besides, there's the pelican
3. target locator
4. no, boring
5. there is a "wet" navy and they have aircraft carriers and stuff
6. F-99 Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle
7. machine gun turret
8. shortsword bomber

P.S. I'm sorry but this isn't COD. you will not get your halo harrier or your halo LMG or our halo airstrike or your halo RCXD or a halo stealth bomber or a halo UAV.

  • 04.11.2011 6:39 PM PDT

I really think other than the wet navy stuff, which exists in the fiction, just not in the games, A pelican gunship variant would be cool. Like a super heavily armed version. It would have missiles, extra rocket pods, chin-mounted gauss turret, the troop bay would just be an armory, and the little drop cases would be bombs instead.

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  • 04.11.2011 7:00 PM PDT

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But really am sweet at heart. =)

EDIT: I love the retards who think the machine gun turret would be useful in real combat. Good luck lugging around a 50 pound weapon with no sights and actually shooting a combatant with it.




2. UH-144H "Wasp"

Essentially an upsized Falcon, this larger variant has a steering propeller in the back as well as a single prop and jets instead of the more complicated duel propeller system. Doors on the side remain shut during flight to increase speed and lower drag. It has a four man crew, a pilot, a gunner, and two door gunners, one of which doubles as a crew chief, the other the main inflight mechanic.

The Wasp is capable of landing a full squad of troopers in hostile terrain and providing overwhelming firepower in the process.

Armament: 2 front mounted helmet slave linked .50 caliber machine guns

Two 32 missile rocket pods.

One bottom mounted 37mm cannon

Side mounted 7.62x54mm rotary guns

3. M881 105mm Howitzer

Space age Howitzer with links to ships in orbit in order to place pin point accurate fire. Dumb firing modes also useable. Used extensively by conventional Marine Corps units in places where a Longsword can't fit and a MAC round would cause too much collateral damage.

7.MA5D and MA5G Squad and Medium Machine Gums

MA5D, essentially an MA5B with longer barrel extension and an open bolt design, it's ammunition counter can tick up to 3 digits and is capable of accepting 30 round stick mags, 60 round banana, 100 round drum mags, 250 round Beta mags, 300 round boxes, and 500, 1000, and 2000 round belts firing at an impressive 18 rounds per second. The weapon is not bullpup like the MA5A, B, and C, instead the magazine is in front of the trigger for easier loading.

MA5G Medium Machine Gun

An extensively modified MA5, the top mounted ammunition counter has been replaced with a duel top mounted water/air cooling system, the ammunition counter now pops out on the side of the weapon, firing at 30 rounds per second and firing the 7.62x54mm round it is absolutely deadly. The weapon is not in the bullpup configuration and is instead, like the MA5D, loaded in front of the trigger.

The MA5G can fire from all existing MA5 series magazines, however it can also feed a belt through it, much like MMGs from the 21st century, namely the MG43, M60, and M240B.



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