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Subject: Do you think our technology will match that of the UNSC in 500 years?

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We will be much different. In 500 years it won't be like the UNSC. Halo doesn't accurately make our forces of the future. Halo is halo.

  • 04.12.2011 8:57 PM PDT

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Our technology is already supposed to start booming here in a few decades time, so I'm going to say we will easily surpass most of the UNSC's technology in 500 years time. There are a lot of variables and other factors, but we will at least be comparable to them, but I would put money on us beating them.

  • 04.12.2011 9:00 PM PDT
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Everyone who is saying that 100 years ago people didn't think we could even do the things we do now should read about Leonardo da Vince. He 500 years ago and pretty much came up with the blue prints to many machines used right now.

Someone mentioned cars. The fastest car we have now roughly goes the speed of sound. That's quite a difference from the speed of light which is still not even close to how fast we would need to go for true interstellar space travel.

The Voyager space crafts are moving around 35,000 mph. At that speed it would take the craft over 80,000 years just to get to the closest star which is around 4.3 light years away. The Milky Way is 100,000 light years across.

Before some of you start realize that nothing, and I mean nothing has been proven about multiple dimensions, worm holes and all that jazz. Yes we know that black holes, through gravity bend space time. Actually what we know is that it changes how we measure space time. Every thing is is theoretical.

Are you starting to see how far we would have advance to make this happen?

  • 04.12.2011 9:25 PM PDT


Posted by: xRYOKUx
Man people are such pessimists.

In 500 humanity will be on par/beyond Covenant. The tech in UNSC is odd. We won't be using bullets in 50-100 years, and if we are it will be magnetic rail based not gunpowder based.

As for how we'll achieve FTL travel, who knows. There are a lot of physically viable options that we have to explore. It could just as likely be something we haven't thought of yet. It could also be impossible but that wouldn't stop us. We would send ships out with people in suspended animation or something similar if we have to.

In fact I actually think the first human colony ship to leave our solar system will not arrive at their destination first. I suspect the first ship will be passed by a ship built some centuries after it left.

I also FIRMLY believe that humanity CANNOT destroy itself even if it tried.

But these boards tend be filled with people half my age seeing nothing but bad news on TV and believe the world on a downward decline. In actuality the world is is no worse off than it was 1,000 years ago. We face different challenges obviously but nothing we cannot over come with human perseverance.

The only thing I'm concerned about is our reluctance to push farther than we have. In order for our species to survive we have to establish colonies on other world before we get hit by a world killing impact. That is a matter of when not if.

Anyway, people are way to pessimistic and underestimating of humanity.
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You saved me the words, Humanity never gives up, and the people that are pessimistic are the ones that are making us hold back sometimes. In 1901 (or something along that date) a man told the Government to shut down the patent office because "every thing that can be invented is invented." Look at us! We achieved so much from then. Also with the rate that technology is evolving we will be at UNSC's standards in 200 to 300 years (plus or minus a few things).

  • 04.12.2011 9:32 PM PDT

Everything in halo seems plausible 500 years hence EXCEPT slipstream space travel. Unless we discover in that time that EVERYTHING we know about physics right now on every level is wrong and we discover the truth about how the universe works on the grandest and most infinitesimal scales, which somehow allows us to dodge the constraints of relativity, causality, thermodynamics etc.

Oh and PERHAPS AI constructs on cortanas level if it turns out that the secret of conciousness is more than just a processing capacity issue. If not then well all have personal sexy blue virtual girlfriends within about 50 years or so.

  • 04.12.2011 9:34 PM PDT

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  • 04.12.2011 9:39 PM PDT

I believe that Antimatter will allow us to reach light speed levels like the FTL drives but making 1 ounce of antimatter would bankrupt the U.S 17 times over again (idk how because we already in big deficit).

  • 04.12.2011 9:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: AngrydoG
Posted by: notnooborelite
Orbital elevators will never happen.


actually NASA tossed the idea around, it is pretty innovative.

There is a station at the top of the elevator that acts as a counterweight against the speed of the planet, keeping the elevator attached to earth.
Yes it was tossed around and thrown away because there would be too many forces acting on the elevator besides gravity. Even with nanotech we have nothing that is that strong and flexible.

Posted by: SRCslayer
I believe that Antimatter will allow us to reach light speed levels like the FTL drives but making 1 ounce of antimatter would bankrupt the U.S 17 times over again (idk how because we already in big deficit).
Even if we could travel that fast we couldn't avoid objects and some thing the size of a dime would rip through any material at those speeds. That's why interstellar travel would have to be through a worm hole or some thing along those lines.

  • 04.12.2011 9:48 PM PDT

Oh yea thats true. LOL that could be a major problem.

  • 04.12.2011 9:54 PM PDT

Posted by: Changsta inc
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I don't think that we'll be quite at the level of the UNSC. Everyone expected 2001 to be "the future" with flying cars and all that garbage.

  • 04.12.2011 9:55 PM PDT


Posted by: Nannerpus
I don't think that we'll be quite at the level of the UNSC. Everyone expected 2001 to be "the future" with flying cars and all that garbage.

500 years > 50 years

  • 04.12.2011 9:59 PM PDT



Posted by: SRCslayer
I believe that Antimatter will allow us to reach light speed levels like the FTL drives but making 1 ounce of antimatter would bankrupt the U.S 17 times over again (idk how because we already in big deficit).[/quote]Even if we could travel that fast we couldn't avoid objects and some thing the size of a dime would rip through any material at those speeds. That's why interstellar travel would have to be through a worm hole or some thing along those lines.



It's impossible to travel at the speed of light in this universe. If the LHC ever becomes fully operational and finds exotic matter, I'd say micro black holes offer the best insight into "Slipspace" travel

  • 04.12.2011 10:08 PM PDT


Posted by: BumperJohn 117
It's impossible to travel at the speed of light in this universe.

That's according to Einstein's theory. As in, we don't know it's true.

  • 04.12.2011 10:10 PM PDT

As an object approaches the speed of light, the energy required to increase it's velocity grows exponentially.

  • 04.12.2011 10:16 PM PDT


Posted by: BumperJohn 117
As an object approaches the speed of light, the energy required to increase it's velocity grows exponentially.

Yeah. Doesn't mean we can't keep supplying energy provided we have a sufficient source.

  • 04.12.2011 10:26 PM PDT
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We already have much of the UNSC's more realistic technology in use today or being researched.

Most of the UNSC's conventional weapons are no different than todays guns.

Railguns are pretty easy to make but really aren't that efficient.

Small shields have been created in labs but need a warehouse of equipment to work.

We have very primitive AI's but nowhere near sophisticated enough to do much of anything.

We have prototype powered armor and exoskeletons that the military is interested in but have the same limitations as mjolnir mk 1 through 3.

Space ships, large stations and colonies won't be created until we find a better way to get stuff into space than strap a small plane on skyscrapper sized rockets.

Supersoldiers probably won't happen because of how controversial the idea is.

Energy weapons for infantry are too impractical to use.

  • 04.12.2011 10:43 PM PDT
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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

I would like to point out how little people on this thread know about the world around them.
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  • 04.13.2011 12:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: TAC zim
I honestly think perpetual motion is possible despite "laws of physics."

Look up the Eddington concession.

Posted by: TAC zim
Why? Because Mankind made the laws of physics and Mankind is not always right obviously. When some laws are written certain technology may not have existed, leaving us to assume its not possible.

We did not make the laws of physics, we merely observe and try to understand them. It is the laws of physics that allowed us to exist as we are.

Posted by: notnooborelite
Posted by: AngrydoG
Posted by: notnooborelite
Orbital elevators will never happen.

actually NASA tossed the idea around, it is pretty innovative.

There is a station at the top of the elevator that acts as a counterweight against the speed of the planet, keeping the elevator attached to earth.
Yes it was tossed around and thrown away because there would be too many forces acting on the elevator besides gravity. Even with nanotech we have nothing that is that strong and flexible.

260GPa is apparently required (That includes the Saftey factor). MWCNT could give us 300GPa. Where did you read that NASA scrapped the plan?

Posted by: Fatal Factor
Everything in halo seems plausible 500 years hence EXCEPT slipstream space travel. Unless we discover in that time that EVERYTHING we know about physics right now on every level is wrong and we discover the truth about how the universe works on the grandest and most infinitesimal scales, which somehow allows us to dodge the constraints of relativity, causality, thermodynamics etc.

Not raining in your parade here, I actually agree. However, what constraints do Thermodynamics put on FTL?

  • 04.13.2011 12:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Scoopicus

Posted by: BumperJohn 117
As an object approaches the speed of light, the energy required to increase it's velocity grows exponentially.

Yeah. Doesn't mean we can't keep supplying energy provided we have a sufficient source.


Clearly you don't understand. Our current mathematics shows us that the amount of energy required to reach Light Speed is infinite. There is no way to create and supply this type of ever-lasting energy. Even if we manage to reach Light Speed, star systems are hundreds of light years away. It would take an era or two just to get there and colonize.

OT: Unless we find some sort of magical medium like the "Element Zero" in the Mass Effect series, we aren't going anywhere. Also exceeding the speed of light isn't impossible. It's just that there is currently nothing in the Universe we know of that exceeds light speed. Tachyons are one exception, however they are purely theoretical.

  • 04.13.2011 12:39 PM PDT

It's likely that cloning will be better. If we can clone sheep now, then it's likely we'll be able to make those stormsoldier dudes from star wars.

  • 04.13.2011 12:55 PM PDT

you guys have SOOOO little faith in humanity.
i mean, think about it, 500 years is a hell of a long time.
i bet we would be pretty damn advanced, maybe not s much as the covenant, but still alot.

  • 04.13.2011 2:34 PM PDT

Posted by: notnooborelite
Everyone who is saying that 100 years ago people didn't think we could even do the things we do now should read about Leonardo da Vince. He 500 years ago and pretty much came up with the blue prints to many machines used right now.

Someone mentioned cars. The fastest car we have now roughly goes the speed of sound. That's quite a difference from the speed of light which is still not even close to how fast we would need to go for true interstellar space travel.

The Voyager space crafts are moving around 35,000 mph. At that speed it would take the craft over 80,000 years just to get to the closest star which is around 4.3 light years away. The Milky Way is 100,000 light years across.

Before some of you start realize that nothing, and I mean nothing has been proven about multiple dimensions, worm holes and all that jazz. Yes we know that black holes, through gravity bend space time. Actually what we know is that it changes how we measure space time. Every thing is is theoretical.

Are you starting to see how far we would have advance to make this happen?


yeah, but you got to think about it, Leonardo Da Vinci lived in a time when most people thought that he was a lunatic. times were much more strict back then, the church would hardly except anything new and so it was difficult for almost ANYTHING new to be made.
times have changed, humans are more open now. we will except almost all new ideas that are put foword.
also, you do realise that the theory of relativity, though imenslly excepted, is still just a THEORY. it is not proven, though 99.9999% likely to be correct.

  • 04.13.2011 2:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: notnooborelite
Everyone who is saying that 100 years ago people didn't think we could even do the things we do now should read about Leonardo da Vince. He 500 years ago and pretty much came up with the blue prints to many machines used right now.

Someone mentioned cars. The fastest car we have now roughly goes the speed of sound. That's quite a difference from the speed of light which is still not even close to how fast we would need to go for true interstellar space travel.

The Voyager space crafts are moving around 35,000 mph. At that speed it would take the craft over 80,000 years just to get to the closest star which is around 4.3 light years away. The Milky Way is 100,000 light years across.

Before some of you start realize that nothing, and I mean nothing has been proven about multiple dimensions, worm holes and all that jazz. Yes we know that black holes, through gravity bend space time. Actually what we know is that it changes how we measure space time. Every thing is is theoretical.

Are you starting to see how far we would have advance to make this happen?


yeah, but you got to think about it, Leonardo Da Vinci lived in a time when most people thought that he was a lunatic. times were much more strict back then, the church would hardly except anything new and so it was difficult for almost ANYTHING new to be made.
times have changed, humans are more open now. we will except almost all new ideas that are put foword.
also, you do realise that the theory of relativity, though imenslly excepted, is still just a THEORY. it is not proven, though 99.9999% likely to be correct.
I'm not sure how that changes my point about Vinci. My point is that there are some really intelligent people who have a good idea where technology is going in the future.

Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: notnooborelite
Orbital elevators will never happen.

260GPa is apparently required (That includes the Saftey factor). MWCNT could give us 300GPa. Where did you read that NASA scrapped the plan?
Popular Science, newspaper articles and internet articles. I also live by the Marshall Space flight Center and know a few NASA employees. Scrap probably was a poor choice of words. It's on some table some where but you won't so much money or time invested in it because it's just not realistic.

  • 04.13.2011 5:06 PM PDT