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Subject: Did Cole escape Psi Serpentis?

Poll: Did Cole escape Psi Serpentis?  [closed]
Yes:  75%
(24 Votes)
No:  3%
(1 Votes)
Maybe:  22%
(7 Votes)
Total Votes: 32

Many call the Battle of Psi Serpentis Cole's last stand although there was a 89.7% chance that Cole had indeed escaped in an in-atmosphere slipspace jump. Do you believe that with those odds he made it out alive with the Everest?

Prior to the battle, Admiral Cole had done extensive research into slipstream travel which, when reviewed, appeared to be the calculations for an in-atmosphere jump. He possibly could have done one and escaped the destruction of Psi Serpentis leaving the 300 Covenant ships to their deaths.

Could there be a sequel? Could he possibly appear in the next Halo game? You decide.

Oh, I wanted to include Cole's last transition to the Covenant.

"Listen to me, Covenant. I am Vice Admiral Preston J. Cole commanding the human flagship, Everest. You claim to be the holy and glorious inheritors of the universe? I spit on your so-called holiness. You dare judge us unfit? After I have personally sent more than three hundred of your vainglorious ships to hell? After kicking your collective butts off Harvest - not once - but twice? From where I sit, we are the worthy inheritors. You think otherwise, you can come and try to prove me wrong. Is that the best you can do? Watch what one unworthy human can do!"

If Cole survived, why didn't he return to Earth and continued to assist with the war? Unless he died.

[Edited on 04.13.2011 4:16 PM PDT]

  • 04.12.2011 11:18 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Slipspace is a tricky thing, one can never be sure of what will happen once you go inside.

  • 04.12.2011 11:21 PM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Slipspace is a tricky thing, one can never be sure of what will happen once you go inside.


Like with Jorge. Maybe he died, maybe crash landed in Ferelden.

  • 04.12.2011 11:30 PM PDT

The tide is turning, brothers! Let us take our kingdom back!

This may just be wishful thinking, but in my opinion, it's sort of implied that he does survive. But, even if he did, all he really wanted to do was retire and life with his wife, so a sequel wouldn't be likely.

  • 04.13.2011 12:33 AM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?

I personally do not think he should appear in games - some characters appear to deeper because we know less about them.

If Cole was to appear in games etc it may affect the mystique and your own personal image of the character

  • 04.13.2011 1:23 AM PDT

I think he certainly survived, that is why it is massively hinted at the end of the short story, however don't think he would return. he had done his part, his whole adult life was dedicated to the cause and would guess he took Everest and his woman, settled down on some planet outside of the war zone, the amount of crew Everest had as well, could probably expect it to become a fully fledged colony in the not to distant future.

so I do believe he survived, but I don't think he should feature in any future games, not unless they have a damned good reason for bringing him back, that is what I am starting to wonder about John as well, should they bring him back?

  • 04.13.2011 4:50 AM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

I´m almost positive Cole survived and made the transition. He was, after all, a slipspace genius.

But hopefully, he dosent appear in any of the games, it´s better left like that.

  • 04.13.2011 4:53 AM PDT

agreed, some legends are better of left untouched, leave legends and legends.

  • 04.13.2011 4:54 AM PDT

I think it's the common consensus that Cole survived Psi Serpentis. He's probably out there somewhere with Lyra and her band of Innies, living happily in their own little colony.

  • 04.13.2011 9:20 AM PDT
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Why didn't he continue to protect the remaining inner colonies then?

  • 04.13.2011 9:25 AM PDT

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For a man sacrificing so muc for the greater good of all mankind, i want him to survie. He have done his part and deserves to live the rest of his life happily.

  • 04.13.2011 11:23 AM PDT

I have a question, added to the main post.

  • 04.13.2011 4:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

This is one of the many open-ended stories of halo done so they can be explained later or added to a larger piece of story.

It is no doubt that he lived, he didn't return to help because he was done fighting and just wanted to relax. Selfish, but humanity won the war nontheless so no need to be bitter towards him.

  • 04.13.2011 4:22 PM PDT

Posted by: grey101
This is one of the many open-ended stories of halo done so they can be explained later or added to a larger piece of story.

It is no doubt that he lived, he didn't return to help because he was done fighting and just wanted to relax. Selfish, but humanity won the war nontheless so no need to be bitter towards him.


Could he have changed the war in any way, even with dwindling ships?

  • 04.13.2011 5:41 PM PDT
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Perhaps, but slip space is not a reliable travel mechanism. Considering the fact that it was also in atmosphere, I would say that there is a 50/50 chance of him surviving.

  • 04.13.2011 5:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: grey101
This is one of the many open-ended stories of halo done so they can be explained later or added to a larger piece of story.

It is no doubt that he lived, he didn't return to help because he was done fighting and just wanted to relax. Selfish, but humanity won the war nontheless so no need to be bitter towards him.


Could he have changed the war in any way, even with dwindling ships?


Meh i can't be too sure. Even out numbering the covenant 3 to 1 Cole still smartly showed caution when fighting. I think the numbers cole had were main..Drive so to speak. But had he been at reach or earth i do think it would have changed a bit.


Posted by: ansac11
Perhaps, but slip space is not a reliable travel mechanism. Considering the fact that it was also in atmosphere, I would say that there is a 50/50 chance of him surviving.


The AIs worked it out to say there is a 89.7 percent chance he made it.

[Edited on 04.13.2011 5:48 PM PDT]

  • 04.13.2011 5:45 PM PDT

I am alpha, i am omega.

I am the last of the primes.

The real question is not whever or not cole could do it, but whever or not his ship could.

Rember human ftl drives are meh, there not very accurate and are simply put not as advanced as their covie counter parts...

Well all know that slipspace puts a strain on ships, which all covie and unsc ships can handle...

But we have no idea the effects of in atomsphere slip space jumping, Sure covie ships can do it (as seen in halo 2 and odst) but that ship was much more strong then any unsc ship it also had a far far better ftl drive... I'm not sure a human unsc ship could take it or do it with it's ftl drive... Also wasn't cole's ship hit hard during the battle???

  • 04.13.2011 6:07 PM PDT
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He probably went out with a bang. The rumour that he survived was probably dropped by the UNSC in an attempt to raise morale.

  • 04.14.2011 4:16 AM PDT

its not the drives that ever caused the problems, human drives are probably capable of making precise jumps as well, its just the understanding of the nature of slipstream space itself that causes them problems. the Covenant use what is probably reverse engineered Forerunner drives, Covenant drives are better because they can make more precise calculations and what not. Cole was a genius when it came to that area, at least that is what his short story makes out so maybe he came up with a way of making human drives more precise in the same way as the Covenant drives.

only thing that bugged me was the humans could really have done with that during the way, the ability to jump in atmosphere and more precisely in space. the way I look at slipspace drives is the Covenant are like a very aerodynamic car, their ships effortlessly 'cut' into slipspace, where as the humans don't have the same understanding, so there ships are like an old school muscle car, tons of power but terrible aero, so they have to 'smash' their way into slipspace. its all about understanding people, knowledge is power.

  • 04.14.2011 4:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Slipspace is a tricky thing, one can never be sure of what will happen once you go inside.


Like with Jorge. Maybe he died, maybe crash landed in Ferelden.


No Jorge is dead. End of story.

On topic.

I think that he did, he was exceptional at slip space calculations and an in atmosphere slipspace jump has been done so i like to think that he did.

  • 04.14.2011 5:32 AM PDT


Posted by: Zephryon
He probably went out with a bang. The rumour that he survived was probably dropped by the UNSC in an attempt to raise morale.


The story "The Impossible Life and Probable Death of Admiral Preston J. Cole" is set after the war has ended. And it's not written like something published in the news, it's written as an exchanged between two ONI operatives, and the one writing the report believes Cole might still be alive. Why would they need to raise moral after the war?

  • 04.14.2011 8:39 AM PDT