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Subject: If you become Flood, can you turn back human?

I read the flood novel, but can people turn back human once they have been infected?

  • 04.13.2011 7:20 PM PDT

I would image that it's hard to be recreated as a person when your knowledge has been assimilated by a hive, your mind has probably been effectively destroyed, and all your biological components repurposed.

[Edited on 04.13.2011 7:43 PM PDT]

  • 04.13.2011 7:42 PM PDT

Halo 2 for Life!

no

  • 04.13.2011 7:54 PM PDT

But Jenkins and Keyes had their memories for a while, even though they were Flood.
Does that mean it takes time for their memories to go away?

  • 04.14.2011 3:23 PM PDT

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They had old, weaker infection forms. Jenkins' was so old that he was able to maintain partial control. Keyes was incredibly mentally strong as well as smart, so he was able to fight the old, weakened form for some time.

I imagine that it still takes time for complete assimilation, but not usually as long as we saw with Keyes or Jenkins.

  • 04.14.2011 3:31 PM PDT


Posted by: CTN 0452 9
I imagine that it still takes time for complete assimilation, but not usually as long as we saw with Keyes or Jenkins.
Really depends on the media. Halo 1 certainly implies a somewhat slow and nasty process, while Halo 3 goes right for the insta-infection.

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...Which is one of the reasons I strongly dislike Halo 3's portrayal of the Flood. Having the process of floodification be some mysterious horror allowed the imagination to construct a Flood far more horrifying than what up-front animation can provide, especially over the long term; it's much easier to fear the unknown than a clear image. This isn't exactly helped by Halo 3's flood infection animations being rather cartoonish.

I remember, as a kid, the Keyes Blob was horrifying. It's still eerie if I get in the right mindset leading up to it. But the first time I saw a flood infection in Halo 3, I remember laughing.

[Edited on 04.15.2011 12:35 PM PDT]

  • 04.15.2011 12:34 PM PDT

Something smells fishy...

Posted by: Tupolev
I would image that it's hard to be recreated as a person when your knowledge has been assimilated by a hive, your mind has probably been effectively destroyed, and all your biological components repurposed.

I agree.

If your physiology is severely damaged after a time of being manipulated entirely by an external host/source it would most likely be impossible to undo the damage. Actually you might be dead.

I would guess that once you are released from the hive (somehow) you're body would no longer function. As in you would be dead.





[Edited on 04.15.2011 1:58 PM PDT]

  • 04.15.2011 1:47 PM PDT

Well, you're here. We have much to discuss.

I remember that at the end of 343 guilty spark, I saw a marine running around with an infection form on his head, I could see its tentacles scratching his face, ugh!, the transformation was so much more scary in halo 1

  • 04.15.2011 2:10 PM PDT

I have to say that the flood does not use living organisms, it kills organisms and then assimilates them, so therefor there is no possible way to be "uninfected" by the flood, and further more i agree with the others in saying that the bodies are way to destroyed to be brought back anyhow.

  • 04.15.2011 3:03 PM PDT

Posted by: lil Bones1994
I have to say that the flood does not use living organisms, it kills organisms and then assimilates them, so therefor there is no possible way to be "uninfected" by the flood, and further more i agree with the others in saying that the bodies are way to destroyed to be brought back anyhow.
Well, victims are alive until the spore takes over their nervous systems. In that sense, the Flood truly is a parasite, as it ASSUMES DIRECT CONTROL of living organisms.

  • 04.15.2011 11:03 PM PDT


Posted by: totallymassive
no

  • 04.16.2011 12:12 AM PDT

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  • 04.16.2011 12:05 PM PDT
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In gameplay, the only way to revert is to be half infected. The spores will eventually disappear and the body will be normal in appearance, possibly even in function.

  • 04.16.2011 6:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sliding Ghost
In gameplay, the only way to revert is to be half infected. The spores will eventually disappear and the body will be normal in appearance, possibly even in function.

If you kill the infection form fast enough you can save the victim. Remember in The Flood MC almost got infected, but Cortana was able to use his armor to shock the infection form before it could take him over.

  • 04.16.2011 8:06 PM PDT

no. nonono

Then the flood would just be silly.

  • 04.18.2011 4:45 AM PDT

Just a few thoughts:

The Keyes flood form was called a proto-gravemind, the start of a gravemind like the one seen in 2 and 3. If I recall correctly, I think his process was so slow because first (as already mentioned) he was a pretty strong guy mentally speaking and second because of what the parasite needed from him. He was no doubt in posession of way more information than any other human on Halo, and as such the parasite had to meticulously go through his brain, take what was needed to,say, pilot the Autumn off Halo.

As for the different portrayals of Flood conversion in the later games, all the Flood encountered were under the control of the Gravemind on Delta. Perhaps with the more developed hive-brain the infection forms could work more efficiently?

  • 04.18.2011 5:12 AM PDT

Hmm I guess everything hasn't been confirmed yet. Anyways, I'm guessing that it depends on how much the Flood has taken over. And how strong the infected human is to resist the infection.

  • 04.18.2011 5:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: CTN 0452 9
Posted by: Sliding Ghost
In gameplay, the only way to revert is to be half infected. The spores will eventually disappear and the body will be normal in appearance, possibly even in function.

If you kill the infection form fast enough you can save the victim. Remember in The Flood MC almost got infected, but Cortana was able to use his armor to shock the infection form before it could take him over.
While that's true, it doesn't always work. Consider the marine who gets jumped on in Floodgate. Sometimes, even if you kill the Infection Forms, he will still be infected. I could be wrong though, as this was from Halopedia.

Can Flood infection forms infect without having to enter the body?

  • 04.18.2011 8:59 PM PDT

Based on other horror games and movies about zombies. No. You can't change back unless you had a miracle of God on your side. Its just like Dead Space. The corpses are completely reanimated and turned into blood thirsty monsters.

  • 04.19.2011 1:07 PM PDT

Have you seen my mind anywhere? I seem to have lost it...

0x0 x0x 0x0 000 000 x0x 000
x0x 0x0 0x0 0xx 000 0x0 000
x0x x0x x00 0xx 0x0 x0x 0x0

I have seen you future

Posted by: Sliding Ghost
Posted by: CTN 0452 9
Posted by: Sliding Ghost
In gameplay, the only way to revert is to be half infected. The spores will eventually disappear and the body will be normal in appearance, possibly even in function.

If you kill the infection form fast enough you can save the victim. Remember in The Flood MC almost got infected, but Cortana was able to use his armor to shock the infection form before it could take him over.
While that's true, it doesn't always work. Consider the marine who gets jumped on in Floodgate. Sometimes, even if you kill the Infection Forms, he will still be infected. I could be wrong though, as this was from Halopedia.

Can Flood infection forms infect without having to enter the body?

The flood infection forms need to enter the body to infect the body to do their work. However, in the earlier stages of the Flood infestation (before the Forerunner-Flood war) the Flood relied on victims eating infected flesh, so I would imagine that there are still other ways to be infected, such as ingesting spores.

Remember in The Library when 343 GS mentions how MC's armor's environmental systems will help him once the Flood starts to change the atmosphere. This could be because the atmosphere would simply become toxic, or becuast of the spores.

  • 04.19.2011 3:30 PM PDT