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Subject: If the Prophets would of never betrayed the elites...

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten

They would of won the war.

I think that was their biggest mistake.

But I think they did that so they can use the Brutes as better puppets than the Elites who actually were intelligent.

What do you think?

Please discuss and thank you.

[Edited on 04.15.2011 4:27 PM PDT]

  • 04.15.2011 4:25 PM PDT

The Elites would have learned eventually from 343 Guilty Spark. But I agree, they most likely would have won.

[Edited on 04.15.2011 4:31 PM PDT]

  • 04.15.2011 4:30 PM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

Posted by: BumperJohn 117
The Elites would have learned eventually from 343 Guilty Spark.
Nope. Spark would have been captured at the Gas Mine near Threshold, given to Truth, and never seen again by the Sangheili.

  • 04.15.2011 4:31 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten

Posted by: BumperJohn 117
The Elites would have learned eventually from 343 Guilty Spark. But I agree, they most likely would have won.


I am sure the prophets would of silenced a few of the "heretics" like we did, and the prophets are VERY good at manipulation.

  • 04.15.2011 4:32 PM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Win?

Everyone would be dead.

Delta Halo says hi!

  • 04.15.2011 5:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: anton1792
Win?

Everyone would be dead.

Delta Halo says hi!

Exactly, the Covenant wouldn't have won, but humanity would have lost.

  • 04.15.2011 5:45 PM PDT
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The Elites would of found out eventually. A civil war was inevitable.

So the Prophets attacked them to try and gain the initiative. Clearly the Brutes were conditioned as loyal servants. Whilst the Elites and Prophets was more of an alliance. Just an extremely strong one of course.

That's how I saw it anyway.

  • 04.15.2011 7:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: anton1792
Win?

Everyone would be dead.

Delta Halo says hi!

Exactly, the Covenant wouldn't have won, but humanity would have lost.


No, they would have won. Their goal was to take on the great journey. Activating Delta Halo would have been their goal. Yes, they would have all died, but the Covenant still completed their goal.

  • 04.15.2011 10:16 PM PDT

It's not about the war. It's about the Great Journey.

There are those who said this day would never come...

Implying that they don't give a -blam!- what others think, they are taking the path.

  • 04.15.2011 10:23 PM PDT

The problem with the Elites leaving the Covenant is that it was a radical move from Bungie just done for the sake of giving humanity some advantage.

When I was playing Halo 2, and Tartarus tried to kill the Arbiter, I was like "O...k?". I mean, it was never really deeply explored, Mercy died, and Truth suddenly decides that the Elites aren't good enough for the Covenant.

That was one of the biggest mistakes in Halo 2, giving the Brutes absolute power so that humanity would be able to win the war. And even if this was written since the beginning (in the Halo Story Bible), they didn't took the time to explain the fans what the hell was going on.

I honestly expected that humanity would, I don't know... like... capture 343 Guilty Spark from High Charity, and then use the Forerunner technology to have an advantage during the war.

Halo 2 had a lot of great ideas for the campaign, but they way it was done, you are left thinking "maybe it was too soon for this to occur".

Just my two cents.

  • 04.15.2011 10:47 PM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

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Posted by: anton1792
Win?

Everyone would be dead.

Delta Halo says hi!

Exactly, the Covenant wouldn't have won, but humanity would have lost.


No, they would have won. Their goal was to take on the great journey. Activating Delta Halo would have been their goal. Yes, they would have all died, but the Covenant still completed their goal.

From the readers point of view, they would have lost.

They wanted to achieve the Great Journey. Delta Halo was simply a means to an end. Delta Halo was also not the way to do so. Therefore they would not have achieved their goal and would have died. This is exactly the point. They would be dead, not in an afterlife - dead. Therefore, they would have lost in that regard. The Great Journey does not even exist, so they have an impossible goal to attain. They certainly would never have won in the readers eyes in this case. If their goal was to commit mass suicide, then you could say that they won.

From their own point of view they cannot win either, because again being dead negates the fact of them being able to say "Yey!, we won!", or even have a point of view in the first place.

  • 04.16.2011 7:55 AM PDT
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I'd say delta halo woulda been activated, meaning everyone loses.

  • 04.16.2011 8:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sparty Boy 117
I'd say delta halo woulda been activated, meaning everyone loses.

but wasn't alpha halo only 55 light years from earth. and if so the halo's were placed so each would cover only a part of the galaxy so the humans on earth would be alive but the covenant would have been wiped out because high charity was also above delta halo.

  • 04.16.2011 9:37 AM PDT