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Subject: The Flood on the Micro Dyson Sphere in Halo Wars

How did the Flood get there or if they've been contained there for study,how did they escape and why weren't contamination proticols activitated?

[Edited on 04.16.2011 11:06 AM PDT]

  • 04.16.2011 11:01 AM PDT
Subject: The Flood on the Micro Dyson Sphere

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What? There were no Flood on Onyx where the MDS was. Are you talking about the shield world from Halo Wars? In which case it wasn't a MDS and the Flood were presumably there since the Forerunner Flood war.

  • 04.16.2011 11:03 AM PDT


Posted by: switch 104 sv
What? There were no Flood on Onyx where the MDS was. Are you talking about the shield world from Halo Wars? In which case it wasn't a MDS and the Flood were presumably there since the Forerunner Flood war.

Yeah sorry I was talking about the Halo Wars sphere and if they have been there so long, they should have died out as they cannot survive that long witout new hosts.

  • 04.16.2011 11:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: StatedOwl12

Posted by: switch 104 sv
What? There were no Flood on Onyx where the MDS was. Are you talking about the shield world from Halo Wars? In which case it wasn't a MDS and the Flood were presumably there since the Forerunner Flood war.

Yeah sorry I was talking about the Halo Wars sphere and if they have been there so long, they should have died out as they cannot survive that long witout new hosts.

The ones from Inst. 04 didn't starve, they go into a weakened state.

  • 04.16.2011 11:10 AM PDT


Posted by: switch 104 sv
Posted by: StatedOwl12

Posted by: switch 104 sv
What? There were no Flood on Onyx where the MDS was. Are you talking about the shield world from Halo Wars? In which case it wasn't a MDS and the Flood were presumably there since the Forerunner Flood war.

Yeah sorry I was talking about the Halo Wars sphere and if they have been there so long, they should have died out as they cannot survive that long witout new hosts.

The ones from Inst. 04 didn't starve, they go into a weakened state.

Yes but the ones in Halo Wars couldn't of survived for 100,000 years outside of a weakened state.

  • 04.16.2011 11:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: StatedOwl12

Posted by: switch 104 sv
Posted by: StatedOwl12

Posted by: switch 104 sv
What? There were no Flood on Onyx where the MDS was. Are you talking about the shield world from Halo Wars? In which case it wasn't a MDS and the Flood were presumably there since the Forerunner Flood war.

Yeah sorry I was talking about the Halo Wars sphere and if they have been there so long, they should have died out as they cannot survive that long witout new hosts.

The ones from Inst. 04 didn't starve, they go into a weakened state.

Yes but the ones in Halo Wars couldn't of survived for 100,000 years outside of a weakened state.

Why not?

Also, the inclusion of fully formed Flood is mainly a gameplay element.

  • 04.16.2011 11:16 AM PDT

Because flood need new hosts to survive and anyways usually infection forms are contained in confinment because the flood eventually wears the body away. I din't quote because it was getting too long

  • 04.16.2011 11:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: StatedOwl12
Because flood need new hosts to survive and anyways usually infection forms are contained in confinment because the flood eventually wears the body away. I din't quote because it was getting too long

The Flood have the constant desire to absorb new hosts but I'm not sure it is a necessity.

  • 04.16.2011 11:27 AM PDT


Posted by: switch 104 sv
Posted by: StatedOwl12
Because flood need new hosts to survive and anyways usually infection forms are contained in confinment because the flood eventually wears the body away. I din't quote because it was getting too long

The Flood have the constant desire to absorb new hosts but I'm not sure it is a necessity.

I'm pretty sure it is. Even a human's body would deteriate without infection in 100,000 years.

  • 04.16.2011 11:50 AM PDT

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Posted by: StatedOwl12

Posted by: switch 104 sv
Posted by: StatedOwl12
Because flood need new hosts to survive and anyways usually infection forms are contained in confinment because the flood eventually wears the body away. I din't quote because it was getting too long

The Flood have the constant desire to absorb new hosts but I'm not sure it is a necessity.

I'm pretty sure it is. Even a human's body would deteriate without infection in 100,000 years.

It has been a while since I read up on the Flood but I'm pretty sure it doesn't state anywhere that they need to consume as opposed wanting to. And since all Flood infected mass is dead tissue anyway it wouldn't matter about time.

  • 04.16.2011 11:52 AM PDT
Subject: The Flood on the Micro Dyson Sphere in Halo Wars

Are you talking about the Flood Controlled Shield World? Sentinels must have been running low and they couldn't contain them. The Flood must have consumed all living species on the planet and just waited 100,000 years.

What I said is all assumptions, there is little to no information on this matter.

[Edited on 04.16.2011 12:05 PM PDT]

  • 04.16.2011 11:53 AM PDT


Posted by: mojeda101
Are you talking about the Flood Controlled Shield World? Sentinels must have been running low and they couldn't contain them. The Flood must have consumed all living species on the planet and just waited 100,000 years.

What I said is all assumptions, there is little to no information on this matter.

But i'm pretty sure once all matter was consumed, the bodies would have basically desintegrated from old age.

  • 04.16.2011 12:12 PM PDT

Posted by: StatedOwl12

Posted by: mojeda101
Are you talking about the Flood Controlled Shield World? Sentinels must have been running low and they couldn't contain them. The Flood must have consumed all living species on the planet and just waited 100,000 years.

What I said is all assumptions, there is little to no information on this matter.

But i'm pretty sure once all matter was consumed, the bodies would have basically desintegrated from old age.


Nope, that's not how flood work.

  • 04.16.2011 12:18 PM PDT

think we got to accept the Flood are a plot device, nothing more nothing less. they do things that just don't happen, they seem to be immortal, regardless of how nothing is eternal in the universe. my mate always says the Flood basically can't be defeated, even though they are a primitive life form, basically a parasite and our knowledge as a species so far would indicate that no parasite, no virus, no bacteria are 'invunerable'.

  • 04.16.2011 12:26 PM PDT

The flood consumed the life on the planet that had enough biomass.

A theory was these flood forms were weaker compared to ones made from humans or Elites, as they didn't keep/spread out battle knowledge and such.

  • 04.16.2011 12:35 PM PDT


Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
think we got to accept the Flood are a plot device, nothing more nothing less. they do things that just don't happen, they seem to be immortal, regardless of how nothing is eternal in the universe. my mate always says the Flood basically can't be defeated, even though they are a primitive life form, basically a parasite and our knowledge as a species so far would indicate that no parasite, no virus, no bacteria are 'invunerable'.


The newest info about them implies they're more then a parasite, they're the perfect biological entity. And a singular entity rather then an entire race, that entity being the Gravemind. The Gravemind, in turn, is confirmed to be a transsentient (read the Besterium), basically a god/demi-god, which would explain why he can't seem to just -blam!- ing die

His infinite knowledge and intellect--combined with the always adaptable FSC--make calling the Flood a galactic "parasite" a severe understatement.

[Edited on 04.16.2011 1:52 PM PDT]

  • 04.16.2011 1:51 PM PDT
Subject: The Flood on the Micro Dyson Sphere


Posted by: switch 104 sv
Posted by: StatedOwl12

Posted by: switch 104 sv
Posted by: StatedOwl12
Because flood need new hosts to survive and anyways usually infection forms are contained in confinment because the flood eventually wears the body away. I din't quote because it was getting too long

The Flood have the constant desire to absorb new hosts but I'm not sure it is a necessity.

I'm pretty sure it is. Even a human's body would deteriate without infection in 100,000 years.

It has been a while since I read up on the Flood but I'm pretty sure it doesn't state anywhere that they need to consume as opposed wanting to. And since all Flood infected mass is dead tissue anyway it wouldn't matter about time.


This is actually true. I would guess that the Flood's "need" to consume is more of a desire to expand their territory. The FSC is resilliant enough to survive for extended periods of time on its own. It could be the Flood go into a state of dormancy when no one eles is around.

  • 04.16.2011 1:54 PM PDT
Subject: The Flood on the Micro Dyson Sphere in Halo Wars

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I lol'd at the absurd miscommunication that occurs whenever dibbs post something. Perhaps his brain is so highly evolved that he can no longer clearly communicate with lesser life forms, even among his own species.

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
The newest info about them implies they're more then a parasite, they're the perfect biological entity. And a singular entity rather then an entire race, that entity being the Gravemind. The Gravemind, in turn, is confirmed to be a transsentient (read the Besterium), basically a god/demi-god, which would explain why he can't seem to just -blam!- ing die
I feel like we've been over this before, but no where in the Bestiarum does it say the Gravemind is trans-sentient. This is, verbatim, what it says,

[GRAVEMIND, Inferi sententia]
TECHNOLOGY TIER
Native Tier 7/Adopted Tier 2

Tier 7: Tier 7 is one of the most common and stable states, with limited weaponry and environmental threats. Societies tend to be small and scattered, driven by subsistence farming, foraging, or hunter-gathering needs. Technology is limited to simple hand made tools, weapons, or agrarian implements and methods, but a very broad understanding of planetary and solar mechanics is not uncommon.

Tier 2: The species has the ability to perform exceedingly accurate Slipspace navigation, near-instantaneous communication and man-portable application of energy manipulation. The unified state of the 26th Century Covenant stands at this level.
Both San 'Shyuum and Sangheili brought the other races of the Covenant to such a high technological level when incorporating them into the Covenant. The two primary extant interstellar civilizations were space-faring prior to discovering Forerunner artifacts - or each other - but they have not successfully reverse-engineered those artifacts.


To be trans-sentient you need to be Tier 0; the title of which is aptly named Trans-Sentient.

Tier 0: As the Forerunners had no examples of civilizations with technological accomplishments greater than themselves - with the exception of the Precursors - this is a theoretical ceiling. It is suspected that they can travel across galaxies and accelerate the evolution of intelligent life.

  • 04.16.2011 2:31 PM PDT
Subject: The Flood on the Micro Dyson Sphere

Walk softly, and carry a big midget.

Maybe they hid inside the Shield World and were released again when the Covenant arrived.

  • 04.16.2011 2:56 PM PDT


Posted by: Jayster 94
Maybe they hid inside the Shield World and were released again when the Covenant arrived.

Yes but it might of made sense to put in a mission to see where the flood are released from sort-of like the quarantine level in Halo 2 but with an army at your command.

  • 04.17.2011 5:09 AM PDT