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Subject: Orbital Defence Platforms

How do they aim? do they just fire straight up?

  • 04.17.2011 12:59 AM PDT
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Orbital Platform uses AI to aim their Super-MAC to enemy ships. They can move their main gun in only specific degrees such as up or down 30 and 90 degree, or whatever.

  • 04.17.2011 1:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: raganok99
Orbital Platform uses AI to aim their Super-MAC to enemy ships. They can move their main gun in only specific degrees such as up or down 30 and 90 degree, or whatever.

Manuvering thrusters too help aim the gun

  • 04.17.2011 2:45 PM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

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Posted by: raganok99
Orbital Platform uses AI to aim their Super-MAC to enemy ships. They can move their main gun in only specific degrees such as up or down 30 and 90 degree, or whatever.

Manuvering thrusters too help aim the gun


This.

I dont even want to imagine how much fuel the platforms consume during an engagement.

  • 04.17.2011 2:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: HipiO7
Posted by: LIVE freak out
Posted by: raganok99
Orbital Platform uses AI to aim their Super-MAC to enemy ships. They can move their main gun in only specific degrees such as up or down 30 and 90 degree, or whatever.

Manuvering thrusters too help aim the gun


This.

I dont even want to imagine how much fuel the platforms consume during an engagement.

Depends on what they use

  • 04.17.2011 3:11 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

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Posted by: HipiO7
Posted by: LIVE freak out
Posted by: raganok99
Orbital Platform uses AI to aim their Super-MAC to enemy ships. They can move their main gun in only specific degrees such as up or down 30 and 90 degree, or whatever.

Manuvering thrusters too help aim the gun


This.

I dont even want to imagine how much fuel the platforms consume during an engagement.

Depends on what they use


What they use is irrelevant. The ammount of whatever they use must be rediculous during a naval battle. The sheer amount of fuel needed to pivot something the size of that thing around and maintain the trajectory of an enemy ship...

  • 04.17.2011 3:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: HipiO7
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Posted by: raganok99
Orbital Platform uses AI to aim their Super-MAC to enemy ships. They can move their main gun in only specific degrees such as up or down 30 and 90 degree, or whatever.

Manuvering thrusters too help aim the gun


This.

I dont even want to imagine how much fuel the platforms consume during an engagement.

Depends on what they use


What they use is irrelevant. The ammount of whatever they use must be rediculous during a naval battle. The sheer amount of fuel needed to pivot something the size of that thing around and maintain the trajectory of an enemy ship...


During an engagement that would last for maybe a few minutes and plus the rounds travel so fast that you dont really need to maintain the trajectory very long

  • 04.17.2011 3:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: raganok99
Orbital Platform uses AI to aim their Super-MAC to enemy ships. They can move their main gun in only specific degrees such as up or down 30 and 90 degree, or whatever.

Manuvering thrusters too help aim the gun


This.

I dont even want to imagine how much fuel the platforms consume during an engagement.

Compared to the amount of energy required to get a 3000 ton shell up to 12 million meters per second the fuel required to move the platform is irrelevant.

  • 04.17.2011 3:53 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

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Posted by: HipiO7
Posted by: LIVE freak out
Posted by: raganok99
Orbital Platform uses AI to aim their Super-MAC to enemy ships. They can move their main gun in only specific degrees such as up or down 30 and 90 degree, or whatever.

Manuvering thrusters too help aim the gun


This.

I dont even want to imagine how much fuel the platforms consume during an engagement.

Compared to the amount of energy required to get a 3000 ton shell up to 12 million meters per second the fuel required to move the platform is irrelevant.


Obviously. I was only taking into account the ammount of juice needed to move the thing. Firing and all the other operations... And multiply that by 300.

I dont understand how the UNSC had enough money to sustain Earth's own defense fleet apart from whatever operations and forces they had out system.

  • 04.17.2011 3:58 PM PDT

err the entire earth is in on this they get there defence money fro tax, loans, and printing press unless they dont use paper money anymore.

what your saying is "hey you saved us from a an attack that would of killed us, oh wait who's that""y its a bank manager, your bill sir, wtf i guess i cant win the next attacking"


whats more important, the survival of humans or money needed to protect the world

  • 04.17.2011 4:05 PM PDT

Even in war, economy doesn't work like that.

  • 04.17.2011 5:36 PM PDT

we dont know what the economy is like its 500 years in the future
also now we probably use plasma or some new source of fuel i mean when was the last time you saw a petrol station in halo

  • 04.17.2011 5:46 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: killertomxx
we dont know what the economy is like its 500 years in the future
also now we probably use plasma or some new source of fuel i mean when was the last time you saw a petrol station in halo


We actually have an insight into how economy is in Halo. Not the whole picture, but enough to speculate upon, enough that it would fit the evidence.

Plasma isnt a fuel source. Never was, never will be. Halo uses Hydrogen as a fuel source if I remember correctly.

  • 04.17.2011 5:55 PM PDT
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Electromagnets bro. The ODPs need a power station on the planet to supply them with the energy to fire.

I am assuming nuclear energy is very cheap in the future.

  • 04.17.2011 5:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: LIVE freak out
During an engagement that would last for maybe a few minutes and plus the rounds travel so fast that you dont really need to maintain the trajectory very long

Space engagements last about as long as Naval ones, a few hours. And yes they do need to maintain a proper trajectory. They move fast but not that fast.

  • 04.17.2011 6:00 PM PDT

Oops, double post.

[Edited on 04.17.2011 6:19 PM PDT]

  • 04.17.2011 6:13 PM PDT

Posted by: killertomxx
we dont know what the economy is like its 500 years in the future
also now we probably use plasma or some new source of fuel i mean when was the last time you saw a petrol station in halo


Why would it change? Economy is economy in the principle that people want money for working. The people who work at the UNSC weapon factories won't work for free, nor will those who deliver food supplies to military bases.
They can't just snap their fingers and suddenly have 30000 free gallons of whatever form of energy they fuel their ships and MAC stations with.

It's common fact that in the 2500's humans still haven't discovered how to use plasma as fuel or weaponry. Most UNSC vehicles run on hydrogen, and vessels use fusion reactors as well as slipspace-engines (obviously).

There are plenty of propane tanks scattered all over Reach. The first one is by the destroyed Wartog on Winter Contingency.
When was the last time you saw a human plasma container in Halo?

  • 04.17.2011 6:15 PM PDT

Posted by: Dustin 6047
It wouldn't be that hard to repositon the thing. In space there is no friction to slow it down, so only one burst of a thruster could do. Also, in Halo: Reach, the Pillar of Autumn is lifted into the air which most likely is heavier than an Orbital Defense Platform.

And it couldn't take an unbelievable amount of power to shoot a Mac gun. It's a magnetized working thing, meaning that you don't need to have as much power with you. Magnets make their own energy as they go. I think... I mean then again it is an artifical magnet...


Not entirely accurate. Yes, the lack friction redcues the need of power to move the thing, but at the same time the low gravity will make it go on until it breaks off. That means it would need more than one set of thrusters to stop it before it turns too much for the machinery to bare.

Also, MAC guns do require insane amounts of energy.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/4231461

"[...] the system will fire rounds at up to Mach 8, drawing on tremendous amounts of electricity to generate the current for each test shot. That, of course, is the problem with rail guns: Like lasers, they're out of step with modern-day generators and capacitors. Eight and 9-megajoule rail guns have been fired before, but providing 3 million amps of power per shot has been a limitation. At 32 megajoules, this new system appears to be the most powerful rail gun ever built, and the Office of Naval Research is installing additional capacitors at the Dahlgren facility to support it. The planned 64-megajoule weapon, if it's ever built, could require even more power--a staggering 6 million amps."

That is also why they don't just put hundreds of Onagers (the mini-MAC you use when protecting the Pillar) all over the battlefield. It was only a emergency solution and probably a prototype, that required ridiculous amounts of energy to operate and would stop functioning shortly after the predicted Pillar take-off.

[Edited on 04.17.2011 6:26 PM PDT]

  • 04.17.2011 6:24 PM PDT

Taylor Gang! 420

in 0G the orbital platforms are weightless so turning isn't all that hard

  • 04.17.2011 7:06 PM PDT
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I think a simpler explanation for most of the odd things in the Halo Universe is that heavy metals are lighter than air in Halo.

  • 04.17.2011 7:12 PM PDT

Posted by: MMO
I think a simpler explanation for most of the odd things in the Halo Universe is that heavy metals are lighter than air in Halo.


Then why do I turn into meat dough when a Warthog rams me in 10kmph?

If you produce a Frigate made of 50000 metric tons of feather it still weighs 50000 metric tons.

  • 04.17.2011 7:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: MMO
I think a simpler explanation for most of the odd things in the Halo Universe is that heavy metals are lighter than air in Halo.


Then why do I turn into meat dough when a Warthog rams me in 10kmph?

If you produce a Frigate made of 50000 metric tons of feather it still weighs 50000 metric tons.

I think that was supposed to be a joke

  • 04.17.2011 7:25 PM PDT


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Posted by: spurkis
Posted by: MMO
I think a simpler explanation for most of the odd things in the Halo Universe is that heavy metals are lighter than air in Halo.


Then why do I turn into meat dough when a Warthog rams me in 10kmph?

If you produce a Frigate made of 50000 metric tons of feather it still weighs 50000 metric tons.

I think that was supposed to be a joke

I also thought it was a joke!

  • 04.17.2011 8:40 PM PDT

Well, I didn't. But that may have something to do with the fact that its 5 in the morning (4 when I posted) :/

  • 04.17.2011 8:56 PM PDT

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