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Posted by: Sgt Jackson CC
Ok, this is a very interesting thread guys, and i think i have an idea!

Ok, so we know someone obviously wore the helmet and chest in the trailer. That game would of had to be real and online yeah? So that means that the helmet must be on the disc somewhere-as they would have had to obtain it somehow.

They wouldn't of been able to play together if it was a patch for that person-they would have all had to have the patch. If it was a patch, and it was online, we would have all got it by now.

My point being that there hasn't been a patch yet, so that means it must be on the disc.

So if this theory is correct, that one person would have had to get the medal on every mission to unlock it. There can't of been that many players from bungie or IGN playing for footage of that trailer. It may be time consuming but:

We should look up all known bungie members and IGN memebers from their past games BEFORE the map pack came out (if possible) and check if any of them has a BOB medal on each mission. If one of them has a medal on Exodus and New Alexandria, it may be that person wearing that armor in the trailer.

Even if it isn't, the fact that he would have the medals on the 2 missions proves that we're missing something.

Just a thought for imaginations


They could have used a custom dev version of the game or have patched it just for that game, if they have the ability to make a map pack they can surely do that. I think it has been thoroughly established that there is no helmet on the disc.


Pk i see your point there. But (like others have said) it is bungie.net related like recon-that person wearing it must have done something! maybe like killing the bobs then?

  • 04.21.2011 12:30 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: Sgt Jackson CC
That game would of had to be real and online yeah? So that means that the helmet must be on the disc somewhere-as they would have had to obtain it somehow.


No.
Bungie/343i sided servers.
Doesn't have to be online.
Besides, testing something online before even trying it offline is not a smart idea lol.
I wont bother with the rest of the post since its assumed the game where the picture was taken was online.



Posted by: David Dunn
Game, please stop fighting Kira. He actually comes with constructive criticism.

Thank you, finally somebody with some common sense.

Posted by: David Dunn
The "is not on disc" argument is, and will always be a good one, until the opposite is proved.

Allthough, the lack of a mesh file (2D texture) can be explained by it being hidden, and with a changed file type. (like if you temporarily change a .gif to a .txt) Or it could be downloaded via universal update.

This is probably the only good explanation for the helmet thus far in this thread.
But allow me to be somewhat, skeptical about it.

Assume the files have been renamed and misplaced somewhere in any map file, Reach's coding being hard coded with each and every armory item in each map, i feel rather confident saying that someone would of stumbled across it.
It's a good idea, but i'm not convinced about it.
I still stand by "it's no on the disk".



And those thinking i'm not contributing to the thread, i am.
It's, as David Dunn pointed it out, called Constructive criticism.
Contribution doesn't always come in the form of "yes i agree with you" and ass kissing.
Somebody posts a theory about BOBs, or anything else, i'll read it, if necessary ill go search in other places to see if the theory has some backbone to it, or if its just something randomly spewed out.

I do agree that the "defiant helmet" looks somewhat like the BO from marathon and that some bobs might yet still be unknown.
But i do not agree, in anyway, that they act like H2-H3 skulls nor will killing X amount of them unlock anything, nor are they connected the switches and the data pads.
I just believe them to be some special dinos to find and kill as a reference to marathon, nothing more, nothing less.

If anybody still thinks i'm a troll of any kind, i shall gladly consider them an ignorant idiot.

  • 04.21.2011 12:32 PM PDT


Posted by: WPooney
oh ok, yeah i destroyed it and didnt recieve a medal


Yea it's the one already mentioned then.

  • 04.21.2011 12:32 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: Sgt Jackson CC
Pk i see your point there. But (like others have said) it is bungie.net related like recon-that person wearing it must have done something! maybe like killing the bobs then?


Recon was on the H3 disk from day 1.

"BOB helmet" is not.

  • 04.21.2011 12:36 PM PDT

Posted by: LC o MagiikZ
Hey, I think there is a BOB in Exodus (no banshee). Right in the beginning when you encounter the suicidal grunts, the BOB is in that area of the mission. Either that or I am just seeing things. Add me -

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ill add you, id like to see what you are talking about

  • 04.21.2011 12:49 PM PDT

its clear the helmets not on the disc but kira can i ask you a question

since 343 is currently working on waypoint alot would it be possible that they could add waypoint only achievements in say a waypoint update if so the big suprise everyone is waiting for could be a bob achievement if not i have a felling the next map pack could come with a extra non multiplayer achievemet ie bob achievement

also if waypoint can have waypoint only achievements do you think a waypoint vidmaster could be possible

[Edited on 04.21.2011 2:05 PM PDT]

  • 04.21.2011 2:04 PM PDT

Tag 'm and Bag 'm

Can someone post a list with all know BoB's? Might be helpfull for people like me who want to start the hunt.
Also has anyone tried to check the theater to find the BoB's in New Alexandria and Exodus, because will you're playing you might miss them.

[Edited on 04.21.2011 2:07 PM PDT]

  • 04.21.2011 2:07 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
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Posted by: Stitchtacular
its clear the helmets not on the disc but kira can i ask you a question

since 343 is currently working on waypoint alot would it be possible that they could add waypoint only achievements in say a waypoint update if so the big suprise everyone is waiting for could be a bob achievement if not i have a felling the next map pack could come with a extra non multiplayer achievemet ie bob achievement

also if waypoint can have waypoint only achievements do you think a waypoint vidmaster could be possible



Adding achievements could be possible and is one thing.
Adding new armor is an other.

I could see new achievements being added to the game same as we had with halo 3.

So if waypoints has some new ones, cool, extra gamer score.


But new achievements =/= new armor.

  • 04.21.2011 2:16 PM PDT

Fear is the path to the Dark Side!

Kira:
I consider you somewhat of a troll because you always have something negative to say and you repeat the same things over and over. That to me is a troll. You are providing very little to the thread. You have stated what you wanted to about there being no reward. Fine, thats what you believe, you have said it, not leave and be done with the people who want to contribute positivly to the thread.
I also am not on board with there being no possible way of a new helmet. YOU are not a data miner, I have not seen your work, you have not looked through the disc. Therefore, I don't trust your judgement. You are just a he said/ she said.
I agree that maybe there will be nothing, but maybe there will be some reward, you don't know, I don't know. No one knows except bungie. So whats the point in being negative about it, let us have our fun, if nothing happens, we wasted our own time. But right now YOU are wasting our time.

Now, on to buisness. Has anyone searched the dlc for easter eggs of any sort?

  • 04.21.2011 2:16 PM PDT


Posted by: Sgt Bash X77
Can someone post a list with all know BoB's? Might be helpfull for people like me who want to start the hunt.
Also has anyone tried to check the theater to find the BoB's in New Alexandria and Exodus, because will you're playing you might miss them.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deTmaaNuOA0

theres most of them

  • 04.21.2011 2:18 PM PDT

Tag 'm and Bag 'm

In lone wolf their are random armored spartans laying on the ground, some with armor that isn't usable so maybe the armor is already on the disc.

Thanks for the vid Stitchtacular.


[Edited on 04.21.2011 2:20 PM PDT]

  • 04.21.2011 2:18 PM PDT


Posted by: Kira Onime
Posted by: Stitchtacular
its clear the helmets not on the disc but kira can i ask you a question

since 343 is currently working on waypoint alot would it be possible that they could add waypoint only achievements in say a waypoint update if so the big suprise everyone is waiting for could be a bob achievement if not i have a felling the next map pack could come with a extra non multiplayer achievemet ie bob achievement

also if waypoint can have waypoint only achievements do you think a waypoint vidmaster could be possible



Adding achievements could be possible and is one thing.
Adding new armor is an other.

I could see new achievements being added to the game same as we had with halo 3.

So if waypoints has some new ones, cool, extra gamer score.


But new achievements =/= new armor.


its something which only time can tell as waypoints full capabilitys are unknown maybe they could update the armour page but only a 343 employee would know that answer as they are responsible for waypoints development

  • 04.21.2011 2:21 PM PDT


Posted by: Sgt Bash X77
In lone wolf their are random armored spartans laying on the ground, some with armor that isn't usable so maybe the armor is already on the disc.

Thanks for the vid Stitchtacular.

your welcome bro the more of us hunting the merrier

  • 04.21.2011 2:28 PM PDT

I think we should expand our search a little.

If you listened to the interview with Frank O'Connor he clearly stutters at 4:15. This might give something away. I suggest we search the Defiant Maps for some secrets. I will try and look at them the next few days.

Frank O'Connor Interview: Skip to 4:10

  • 04.21.2011 2:55 PM PDT


Posted by: Sgt Bash X77
In lone wolf their are random armored spartans laying on the ground, some with armor that isn't usable so maybe the armor is already on the disc.

Thanks for the vid Stitchtacular.

This.

  • 04.21.2011 2:59 PM PDT


Posted by: ssjjediz06
Kira:
I consider you somewhat of a troll because you always have something negative to say and you repeat the same things over and over. That to me is a troll. You are providing very little to the thread. You have stated what you wanted to about there being no reward. Fine, thats what you believe, you have said it, not leave and be done with the people who want to contribute positivly to the thread.
I also am not on board with there being no possible way of a new helmet. YOU are not a data miner, I have not seen your work, you have not looked through the disc. Therefore, I don't trust your judgement. You are just a he said/ she said.
I agree that maybe there will be nothing, but maybe there will be some reward, you don't know, I don't know. No one knows except bungie. So whats the point in being negative about it, let us have our fun, if nothing happens, we wasted our own time. But right now YOU are wasting our time.


I'd disagree. What Kira is doing is actually very valuable - he's keeping us in check, and forcing us to think every hypothesis through vigorously before putting it up for review. It's not a decent theory unless it can stand up to criticism, annd you can't cry troll just because someone points out that your idea blatantly contradicts the facts. I've seen too many threads where a ridiculous degree of speculation has taken over, to the point where people are expecting results from ideas that are hardly even sane. I point you to the Armory Man thread - it started out with an interesting idea, and before you know it they're playing through the Campaign dressed as all the different members of Noble Team convinced they'll gain some kind of reward. Kira is stopping that happening here, and that makes him a very valuable member of the team, whether you like it or not.

  • 04.21.2011 3:00 PM PDT


Posted by: MWLB4244
I think we should expand our search a little.

If you listened to the interview with Frank O'Connor he clearly stutters at 4:15. This might give something away. I suggest we search the Defiant Maps for some secrets. I will try and look at them the next few days.

Frank O'Connor Interview: Skip to 4:10


I think this might be a red herring. Think about it - there's no new armor with Defiant, that we know for sure. SO WHY DID HE STUTTER? My guess is he knew about the stir the mystery helmet was creating and took the opportunity for some ad-lib promotion of Defiant.

  • 04.21.2011 3:02 PM PDT


Posted by: D00MFISH

Posted by: MWLB4244
I think we should expand our search a little.

If you listened to the interview with Frank O'Connor he clearly stutters at 4:15. This might give something away. I suggest we search the Defiant Maps for some secrets. I will try and look at them the next few days.

Frank O'Connor Interview: Skip to 4:10


I think this might be a red herring. Think about it - there's no new armor with Defiant, that we know for sure. SO WHY DID HE STUTTER? My guess is he knew about the stir the mystery helmet was creating and took the opportunity for some ad-lib promotion of Defiant.

I disagree with you. That did not at all seemed planned. Don't forget, at this point there was no conversation over the mystery armor. The map pack hadn't been released yet.

  • 04.21.2011 3:09 PM PDT
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I don't know anything about coding or anything but is it possible the helmet is on the disk just in pieces? Could they combine helmets to make this helmet? If I am talking out my ass then just ignore

  • 04.21.2011 3:11 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
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Posted by: D00MFISH

I'd disagree. What Kira is doing is actually very valuable - he's keeping us in check, and forcing us to think every hypothesis through vigorously before putting it up for review. It's not a decent theory unless it can stand up to criticism, annd you can't cry troll just because someone points out that your idea blatantly contradicts the facts. I've seen too many threads where a ridiculous degree of speculation has taken over, to the point where people are expecting results from ideas that are hardly even sane. I point you to the Armory Man thread - it started out with an interesting idea, and before you know it they're playing through the Campaign dressed as all the different members of Noble Team convinced they'll gain some kind of reward. Kira is stopping that happening here, and that makes him a very valuable member of the team, whether you like it or not.


I thank you for the support.
To those calling me a troll, heres a more accurate description of a "troll"
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.
Source urban dictionary, Although you can find many descriptions of a troll, this is the one i find most suiting for one.


I'm sorry but if you realy consider me to be a troll, i strongly suggest you go get some sort of check up as to I am nowhere near that description, nor any other you may find.
YOU think i'm a troll based on a flawed troll idea.

Don't start fingering out people disagreeing with you to be a troll.

If someones posts a theory, he has to be open to any kind of criticism, be it positive or negative.
Do note, just because some critics are negative, doesn't mean it's bad right off the bad, you call it constructive criticism.

Might i add "your not a moder thus you don't know what your talking about" is about the level of a 10year old thinking.
Just because i'm not a moder doesn't mean i don't know what im talking about. I don't say something if i know it to be untrue.
If i do, i will make myself clear that it will be what i think. In this case, this thread, what i mentioned was mostly to be what i know, what can or cannot be done.

About 90%, give or take, of the posts addressed to me where "you're a troll gtfo herp derp".
I'm giving out my opinions, what i know as facts, not fiction and provide sufficient content to my posts. "You're a troll gtfo herp derp" is once again a 10year old thinking and crying because he can't accept someone giving a negative constructive criticism.



Finally, how many other crazy non-sense rumors/theories ended up being a full blown out of proportion wild goose hunt?
Here are a few.
-Secret of sandtrap
-Golden warthog
-Armory man easter egg
-Forge World Secret

This thread, at this rate, is going to end up on that list.

  • 04.21.2011 3:23 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
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Posted by: Wreud
I don't know anything about coding or anything but is it possible the helmet is on the disk just in pieces? Could they combine helmets to make this helmet? If I am talking out my ass then just ignore



Could be a viable option, if it was but one piece to be released.

Logicly, would you release an update for 1 piece of armor? Probably not. You'd release at least a handful.

Also, coding it in several places could create some problems if they would happen to mess 1 line by accident.

It's a decent idea, but just to complicated for a game.

  • 04.21.2011 3:27 PM PDT

I'm going to kill a BOB on every level on every difficulty. GUYS I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO BOARD THE BANSHEE BOB's AND KILL THEM WHEN THEY ARE GROUND SIDE. Just a brain wave but it could be something as simple as that!

  • 04.21.2011 3:28 PM PDT
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I was just thinking that they wanted to implement something like this and wanted to deter hacking then certainly they would find a way to do so with someone like Microsoft. Just an idea. It just gets me that there is no secrets like there was in the others. Secrets that are actually worth something

[Edited on 04.21.2011 3:39 PM PDT]

  • 04.21.2011 3:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: Holy Phoenix
I'm going to kill a BOB on every level on every difficulty. GUYS I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO BOARD THE BANSHEE BOB's AND KILL THEM WHEN THEY ARE GROUND SIDE. Just a brain wave but it could be something as simple as that!


Thats something.

HAS anyone actually tried hyjacking the Banshee BOBs?
It's still a banshee, so it must be hyjackable one way or another-even if it is rock solid to do so.

What if we hyjack the New Alexandria Banshee BOB by skydiving on COOP, and EMP the supposed one on Exodus-

Could we have finally found an idea to make this work?

  • 04.21.2011 3:44 PM PDT

Posted by: Kira Onime
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...LOL. Buzzkill. Well, how do YOU think the so-called BOB armor would be obtained, then? You know as well as I do that it's not shipped with any of the currently existing map packs, as Bungie has said.



Who said we where ever going to get it to begin with?
And don't reply "but we see it in a picture", that picture only shows it exists, somewhere, but not that we are getting it.






Bungie Only helmet like the blue flame armor effect is the best theory of the "new" helmet

  • 04.21.2011 3:46 PM PDT