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Subject: The BOB and "GRD" Helmet Ultimate Topic (GRD Dolls)

lolnope.


Posted by: Destiny 7
Anyone still looking into this is an idiot.
Pretty much. I gave up like 6 months ago.

  • 12.31.2011 4:34 PM PDT

the bob and grd are just easter eggs, if they unlocked any thing, it would be on gamewiners.com. forget the easter eggs play matchmaking

  • 12.31.2011 8:24 PM PDT
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Im sure you guys have noticed the pictures of the old maps on the anniversary maps but does anyone know if they are on Ridgeline or Solitude? Those are the only maps I cant seem to find one on. Im not saying that the dolls and the pics are related I just think it would make sense if they put one on all of the maps just like the dolls.

[Edited on 01.01.2012 7:02 AM PST]

  • 01.01.2012 7:02 AM PDT
Subject: The BOB Search Topic (GRD Helmet Mysteries)


Posted by: HydratedRex1254
Has anyone found BOB on Tip of the Spear other than at one of the four known spawn points (cliff face at the first AA gun, and three spawn points at the spire)?

The map has 5 spawns set for Bobs on that map.

That said, here is a list of every possible Bob, pulled from the map files.

winter: 1 with 14 spawns
oni: 5 different
night: 3 different
tip: 3 different, 5 spawns (one with 3)
long: 3 different
exodus 3 different
alexandria: 1 with 4 spawns
package: 3 different
pillar: 2 different
lone: 1 spawn

Ask nicely and I'll post their XYZ coords. ;)

  • 01.02.2012 12:20 AM PDT


Posted by: Lord Zedd

Posted by: HydratedRex1254
Has anyone found BOB on Tip of the Spear other than at one of the four known spawn points (cliff face at the first AA gun, and three spawn points at the spire)?

The map has 5 spawns set for Bobs on that map.

That said, here is a list of every possible Bob, pulled from the map files.

winter: 1 with 14 spawns
oni: 5 different
night: 3 different
tip: 3 different, 5 spawns (one with 3)
long: 3 different
exodus 3 different
alexandria: 1 with 4 spawns
package: 3 different
pillar: 2 different
lone: 1 spawn

Ask nicely and I'll post their XYZ coords. ;)


Yes, absolutely, can you please tell me more. But maybe I also need to know more about your answer above, so that I can reconcile it with my experience or understand it within the context of my experience. What do you mean by the classifications of "different" and "spawn"?

For your claim of 14 spawn points on Winter Contingency ... I recall someone claiming that the spawn points on Legendary are slightly different than in other difficulties because of the size of the concussion rifle. So are the 14 locations really 7 in Legendary, and 7 in the other difficulties?

I've also seen the claim that there are five spawn points on ONI before, but didn't give it much credence. Would you care to elaborate on this claim? Is it like the one above? That is, are several of those spawn points in the same neighborhood?

One last question -- What do you mean by "pulled from the map files"?

Thank you.

  • 01.02.2012 10:49 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

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Posted by: HydratedRex1254
One last question -- What do you mean by "pulled from the map files"?


Taken from the game data itself.
Each level in the game are contained in separate files.
Those files are called ".map" files.

  • 01.02.2012 11:02 AM PDT

Reach Videos

Formerly known as JFKz GHOST
Also known as CTDeathSquad

Enjoy!

I'd love to see someone find something significant so all this silly bickering would end!

  • 01.02.2012 11:11 AM PDT

GT: RIFFMASTERC


Posted by: Lord Zedd

Posted by: HydratedRex1254
Has anyone found BOB on Tip of the Spear other than at one of the four known spawn points (cliff face at the first AA gun, and three spawn points at the spire)?

The map has 5 spawns set for Bobs on that map.

That said, here is a list of every possible Bob, pulled from the map files.

winter: 1 with 14 spawns
oni: 5 different
night: 3 different
tip: 3 different, 5 spawns (one with 3)
long: 3 different
exodus 3 different
alexandria: 1 with 4 spawns
package: 3 different
pillar: 2 different
lone: 1 spawn

Ask nicely and I'll post their XYZ coords. ;)



Please Lord Zedd, please tell us where to find them. Especially the ones on Tip Of The Spear.


  • 01.02.2012 11:34 AM PDT

GT: RIFFMASTERC

Also,I posted this in a topic on WAYPOINT about the unfound 5th BOB on The Spire. If you don't know, Lord Friendship got confirmation a little over two weeks ago that there are 5 not just 4 as previously thought on this mission, however no one seems to have found the 5th yet....now onto my waypoint post.....

"I don't know if this could be anything significant or not. Last night I was messing around on LNoS. I stole the Wraith, drove it back around and up the beach/hill to the Sword Base and got s check point. I think this was after the first drop ship I need to watch the film to be sure. I was going to try to get onto a Pelican with AL and try to get out of the map so I decided to kill the Marines to facilitate this. So, and this happened several times, Some of the marines actually gave me POSITIVE points instead of negative points, ranging from 160 to 1000+ points.

What was really strange is that each time after this hapened another marine would say something like "Does he/she look like an alien to you?!"

No BOBS showed up in my carnage. But is it possible that some Marines may in fact be BOBs as some had therorized at different times in the past? But much like the Banshee BOBs they don't show up in the Carnage report as BOBs. One other thing I noticed is that most of them seemed to be female Marines, with the helmets that covered their mouth, and probably 50% of the time their bodies dissappeared as soon as I killed them.

So is it possible that the missing BOB or BOBs may actually be Marines after all, including the ToTS BOB?

PS - I don't know if this matters but I was playing on Normal with IWHBYD, Grunt Birthday, and Cowbell on."

I have never had a kill of a Marine show as a positive number bfore last night when this all happened.

  • 01.02.2012 11:35 AM PDT
Subject: The BOB and "GRD" Helmet Ultimate Topic (GRD Dolls)

All Anniversary multiplayer maps do have B.o.B. dolls on them.

  • 01.02.2012 12:05 PM PDT
Subject: The BOB Search Topic (GRD Helmet Mysteries)


Posted by: HydratedRex1254

Yes, absolutely, can you please tell me more. But maybe I also need to know more about your answer above, so that I can reconcile it with my experience or understand it within the context of my experience. What do you mean by the classifications of "different" and "spawn"?

I'm still not completely sure myself, but "different" refers to the number of squad entries, and "spawn" are the number of spawns assigned to a/the squad.

For your claim of 14 spawn points on Winter Contingency ... I recall someone claiming that the spawn points on Legendary are slightly different than in other difficulties because of the size of the concussion rifle. So are the 14 locations really 7 in Legendary, and 7 in the other difficulties?
Going off the above, there is only 1 squad entry which has 14 spawns assigned. That's all I can tell.
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking, but among those 14 spawns there are 7 Plasma Repeaters and 7 Concussion Rifles and after glancing at the coords, Every Concussion Rifle spawn is very close to a Plasma Repeater spawn. For example,

Spawn 3: 395.8143, 166.4921, -19.14383, Plasma Repeater
Spawn 5: 395.5341, 167.3049, -19.14382, Concussion Rifle

I just want to make it clear, however, that I only have access to the WHAT, WHERE, and WITH when it comes to spawns, not the HOW.

I've also seen the claim that there are five spawn points on ONI before, but didn't give it much credence. Would you care to elaborate on this claim? Is it like the one above? That is, are several of those spawn points in the same neighborhood?
The names suggest completely different areas (as do the coords), so I believe not.

Also, I had already grabbed the coords for ONI before realizing what you were asking in the above two questions, so here they are anyway:

Bob1: "sq_far_bob" Dual Wielding Plasma Rifles
Coords: 34.5267, -68.30871, 5.770611

Bob2: "sq_air_far_bob" Dual Wielding Plasma Rifles OR a Concussion Rifle (Or maybe the Concussion Rifle is a secondary, not 100% yet)
Coords: -8.661929, -154.7053, 4.452001

Bob3: "sq_air_bob" Single Plasma Rifle
Coords: -134.5031, -130.8608, 11.65025

Bob4: "sq_garage_bob" Dual Wielding Plasma Rifles
Coords: -83.24402, 47.80528, 16.50049

Bob5: "sq_sword_bob" Dual Wielding Plasma Rifles
Coords: -122.5402, 31.87342, 26.50025


Enjoy!

  • 01.02.2012 4:15 PM PDT
Subject: Regarding BOBS. (Long Post)

Nothing is true, Everything is permitted.


Posted by: Duardo
I like your theory. It's possible the two Banshee BOBs aren't the correct BOBs to kill in that level.

you know something we don't, do you?

  • 01.02.2012 4:48 PM PDT
Subject: The BOB and "GRD" Helmet Ultimate Topic (GRD Dolls)
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Inheritor #156 :p

lol @ people still thinking the helmet is in the game and bobs unlock it

[Edited on 01.02.2012 5:03 PM PST]

  • 01.02.2012 5:03 PM PDT

have you guys thought that you need to kill every BOB stat spawns or every BOB from a specific spawn location? But still they could give you some kind of special doodad

[Edited on 01.02.2012 5:34 PM PST]

  • 01.02.2012 5:33 PM PDT
Subject: The BOB Search Topic (GRD Helmet Mysteries)


Posted by: Lord Zedd
I'm still not completely sure myself, but "different" refers to the number of squad entries, and "spawn" are the number of spawns assigned to a/the squad.


Ok, so this is open for theories. Here's mine, and again, I have to give some background. I noticed once that when I restarted a mission, BOB would always be at the same spot. Wishing to verify this observation, I tried it on Winter only to find this wasn't true. So I think "different" is a setting determined at the beginning of the mission, while "spawn" is determined later, perhaps at the last possible moment (when BOB has to be written into the scene).

One thing that doesn't fit is that you list three different locations for LNoS, but no more spawn points. My experience is that if BOB arrives by drop pod, he will always arrive by drop pod (using revert to last save or restart mission), but that there are three possible locations for him to arrive. Thus, I would have expected three different with 5 spawns.


Going off the above, there is only 1 squad entry which has 14 spawns assigned. That's all I can tell.
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking, but among those 14 spawns there are 7 Plasma Repeaters and 7 Concussion Rifles and after glancing at the coords, Every Concussion Rifle spawn is very close to a Plasma Repeater spawn. For example,

Spawn 3: 395.8143, 166.4921, -19.14383, Plasma Repeater
Spawn 5: 395.5341, 167.3049, -19.14382, Concussion Rifle


Yes, this is consistent with what has been observed. For us mortals who aren't reading god's codes, there are seven spawn locations.


I've also seen the claim that there are five spawn points on ONI before, but didn't give it much credence. Would you care to elaborate on this claim? Is it like the one above? That is, are several of those spawn points in the same neighborhood?
The names suggest completely different areas (as do the coords), so I believe not.

Also, I had already grabbed the coords for ONI before realizing what you were asking in the above two questions, so here they are anyway:

Bob1: "sq_far_bob" Dual Wielding Plasma Rifles
Coords: 34.5267, -68.30871, 5.770611

Bob2: "sq_air_far_bob" Dual Wielding Plasma Rifles OR a Concussion Rifle (Or maybe the Concussion Rifle is a secondary, not 100% yet)
Coords: -8.661929, -154.7053, 4.452001

Bob3: "sq_air_bob" Single Plasma Rifle
Coords: -134.5031, -130.8608, 11.65025

Bob4: "sq_garage_bob" Dual Wielding Plasma Rifles
Coords: -83.24402, 47.80528, 16.50049

Bob5: "sq_sword_bob" Dual Wielding Plasma Rifles
Coords: -122.5402, 31.87342, 26.50025


Enjoy!


This is interesting. I will have to take greater note of what weapons BOB uses on ONI to make sense of this. It raises a lot of questions for me.

So, I was afraid that when you said xyz coordinates, you meant just that. Not sure how it will help me, but can you send them for Tip of the Spear? If you know the coordinates of any near by objects that might be helpful too. E.g. wraith, data pad, ...? I'm probably asking way too much ...

I'll have to experiment to see if BOB spawns in different locations under the spire to see if those three spawn points refer to that particular "different" location.

  • 01.02.2012 5:46 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source


Posted by: AndrewTattersall
I'd love to see someone find something significant so all this silly bickering would end!


They do nothing. Period.

  • 01.02.2012 8:07 PM PDT
Subject: The BOB and "GRD" Helmet Ultimate Topic (GRD Dolls)

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source


Posted by: dialga5
have you guys thought that you need to kill every BOB stat spawns or every BOB from a specific spawn location? But still they could give you some kind of special doodad


150 pages ago.

  • 01.02.2012 8:10 PM PDT
Subject: The BOB Search Topic (GRD Helmet Mysteries)


Posted by: HydratedRex1254
Ok, so this is open for theories. Here's mine, and again, I have to give some background. I noticed once that when I restarted a mission, BOB would always be at the same spot. Wishing to verify this observation, I tried it on Winter only to find this wasn't true. So I think "different" is a setting determined at the beginning of the mission, while "spawn" is determined later, perhaps at the last possible moment (when BOB has to be written into the scene).

One thing that doesn't fit is that you list three different locations for LNoS, but no more spawn points. My experience is that if BOB arrives by drop pod, he will always arrive by drop pod (using revert to last save or restart mission), but that there are three possible locations for him to arrive. Thus, I would have expected three different with 5 spawns.

First part makes enough sense to me.

Second, only one of those 3 are set to ride in a drop pod.


This is interesting. I will have to take greater note of what weapons BOB uses on ONI to make sense of this. It raises a lot of questions for me.

So, I was afraid that when you said xyz coordinates, you meant just that. Not sure how it will help me, but can you send them for Tip of the Spear? If you know the coordinates of any near by objects that might be helpful too. E.g. wraith, data pad, ...? I'm probably asking way too much ...

I'll have to experiment to see if BOB spawns in different locations under the spire to see if those three spawn points refer to that particular "different" location.

To view coords in game just google that dev code that puts your current coords onscreen.

And yes, those 3 are by the Spire:

Bob1: "sq_twin_bob" Concussion Rifle
Coords: 141.816, 96.74001, 13.77608

Bob2: "sq_cannon_bob" Concussion Rifle
Coords: -93.87444, -107.5462, -20.49681

Bob3: "sq_spire_bob" Concussion Rifle (Weapon Set to squad, which as you'll see can be overridden by a spawn-specific weapon)
Spawn1: -146.5478, -333.3505, -60.41689 Fuel Rod
Spawn2: -126.5103, -344.0536, -62.0863 Fuel Rod
Spawn3: -137.4828, -363.4956, -56.26675 Fuel Rod

  • 01.02.2012 9:21 PM PDT

w00t!

Thanks for the info, Lord Zedd.

I've taken a screenshot showing where our missing Tip of the Spear BOB should spawn.

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=257733 66

  • 01.03.2012 3:22 AM PDT
Subject: Regarding BOBS. (Read Whole Post)

I find it interesting to think, that with all of the missions played, and the number of people playing, that it hasn't yet been found. This would be a testament to their difficulty... or someone has already found them but wants to watch the community sit and suffer :P

  • 01.03.2012 3:47 AM PDT

I'm not looking for it, but that doesn't mean I'm not following this thread, waiting to see if someone does, however unlikely it could be :\

  • 01.03.2012 5:43 AM PDT