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Posted by: RU551NSP4RT4N
Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: RU551NSP4RT4N
Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Three pages into this discussion and some folks honestly believe that because the S-IIIs died, they suck. They died a lot more often eve nwhen outfitted with the same technology as the spartan II's headhunter teams, Noble team, guantlent, and echo. All of the teams must have constantly taken casulties as there were always new replacements for the teams pulled from beta, or other sources. Spartan III's were very efficient and deadly right up there with the spartan II's.
But the spartan II's were one pedistal higher.
They are of equal strength and value.
Yes, Noble, Gauntlet, Echo, and the Headhunters died even with more advanced technology. However, Noble surived over 20 years of operations and missions, as did Echo and Guantlet I would imagine. And come on, is it really bad that they died on REACH? Reach was the grave of numerous Spartan-IIs.Yes it is true Noble did survive a long time and so did the other spartan III teams. They still constatnly mounted up casualties a lot more often than any spartan II team did. Noble lost four of its original members and god knows how many replacements.
Also Reach was bound to fall and most spartans did die on Reach regardless of class. Defending Reach in itself was a suidice mission as the covenant came with over 300 ships one of the largest covenant fleets seen at the time. There was no hope. Even for spartans.
I'm only really replying to your first paragraph. It is never said how many replacements Noble Team has received over the year, all we know is that the position of Noble Six has been replaced twice, once with Thom and once with S312.
The SIIs are really no better than the SIII teams like Noble except in that they have a lot more experience fighting. Almost every OP Blue Team has undergone they've lost at least one Spartan. When they first got Mjolner they lost Sam, and then going to wipe the Circumference Chief lost both James (or was it Josh?) and Linda (granted she was revived in the next book, but still), Solomon and Arthur when they went to rescue Halsey in the Package, Will in Ghosts of Onyx, and a great deal of them in First Strike.
So really Spartan IIs and IIIs aren't even really that different in strength or effectiveness. Yes the SIIs may have better tech than most of the SIIIs, but if you boil it down to the bare bones of the matter, they're equal in strength.