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Subject: "Author Rams" Tag Bans

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  • 04.20.2011 3:27 PM PDT
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BC1096
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Posted by: urk
Banpuppy is angry. Some of you have been making a mess of the content tags system. Those same some of you are either already banned from rating or tagging content, or soon will be.

Rude or inappropriate tags will not be tolerated.

The initial ban is temporary. Eventually, we'll restore your ability to rate and tag files. Though we are merciful, a second violation is not advised.

Banpuppy is watching. Banpuppy is waiting.

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omg i want that dog

  • 04.20.2011 3:41 PM PDT

Posted by: Lord Pyro
I play for fun and armory completion. :)

Urk, since it seems you're keeping track of this thread, I was wondering if you could clear some things up for me. First of all, I think I've been banned for tagging author rams, and I know I deserve it. You've hinted at a system upgrade to include other phrases worthy of ban. Is there a way you can make sure that when this new filter is implemented that it won't cause a second ban for tags that I made before the first ban which become bannable.? Also, I've heard this ban makes it impossible to upload content to your fileshare. On the site, it says the first ban only precludes you from tagging and rating files. I can't access my xbox this week, so I have no way of knowing if this is true. If it is, could you please make sure the first ban only has the afore mentioned penalties, as I would like to enter the next Bungie Allstars which I believe requires uploading files. Thanks.

  • 04.20.2011 3:43 PM PDT

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Thank GOD!!! I can actually have a good fileshare of mine in peace! Thankyou BUNGIE!!! If we could be moderators of our own content it'd probably make things so much better and a whole lot easier!

  • 04.20.2011 3:52 PM PDT

Pwning noobs since November 15th 2001

im feeling left out from all the asskissing! yeah go bungie! u make the site safe for kids yeeeeah!

  • 04.20.2011 4:31 PM PDT

Software should be free like air!

But what if i do ram hot women?

  • 04.20.2011 4:39 PM PDT

BRANDON tha GREAT

Thank u bungie as much as i liked seeing all the nice ppl to post how many things i can ram in a day (which must be a lot)its nice not haveing to sift through all the good ones.

  • 04.20.2011 4:58 PM PDT

that puppy knows whos boss

  • 04.20.2011 5:05 PM PDT

I have a question.

I sarcasticly tagged my own file with that specific phrase, for the purpose of beating anyone who may have done that in the future, and plus I'm just like that. But how do I know if I've been banned or not? Would I be informed?

  • 04.20.2011 5:05 PM PDT

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So, urk(and any other Bungie employee). I know you're keeping track of this thread at the moment, and it seems that you've blatantly avoided answering the most asked questions, including my own. Why have people who have not even tagged anyone elses content with these rude tags? What if they just tagged some of THEIR OWN content with these rude tags? I tagged one of my OWN screenshots with a couple rude tags, just to give it a little humor...and it seems I've been banned, because my "sheesh favs" tag history hasn't updated since yesterday night. It seems to me like I've been banned for no reason, other than just to give my OWN content a little humor, and maybe to attract some downloads.

Why do the people who haven't even added so much as more than 2 or 3 rude tags, deserve to be banned from tagging alongside those who have added over say 100 or so rude tags? Because I know for a fact that I didn't add more than 2 or 3 rude tags, most of them on one of my screenshots just to attract some downloads. Ever consider the fact that you're only making things worse for the community by handing out nothing but bans? Why not be a little more gentle, and hand out WARNINGS before handing out bans? Because from what I can tell, there are some innocent victims in your "ban solution." It seems that each time you've handed out these bans(ever since Reach came out), innocent victims were involved...LOTS of innocent victims. I'm one of those innocent victims, because 2 or 3 rude tags on my OWN screenshot, and possibly one or 2 on someone else's screenshot, is DEFINITELY FAR WORSE(sarcasm, if you don't know what that is) than the 100 or so rude tags that hundreds others have added to HUNDREDS of screenshots and other content items.

Really Bungie(and urk)? You see that a person added one or 2 rude tags to a screenshot or two, they IMMEDIATELY deserve teh bans? Really? So, every person who has ever added A SINGLE rude tag to one or two content item, deserves the ban because they're "flooding"(really? Are you kidding me?)? I think the real question is that I'm trying to ask(and many other innocent victims like me), is why hand out bans to EVERYONE who has ever added a rude tag, even if it was just ONE rude tag deserve the ban, when you can just give out WARNINGS to those who did not add more than 2 or 3 rude tags?

Seriously mon. What kind of "justice" do you think you're doing, Bungie? Now, you're denying me my right to add tags to a collection of screenshots whose number I was hoping to get to about 500 by the end of this month...all because I add 2 or 3 stupid little rude tags to one or two screenshots, one of which, may I remind you, is my OWN screenshot. I did that just to attract some downloads. So, thank you Bungie(and urk) for effectively putting a halt on my goal of adding awesome screenshots to my collection of favorites through the simple tag of "sheesh favs." Thank you soo very much for being the...no, I shouldn't even say it. Why? Because it's pointless at this point. You guys don't even give a flying rat's ass anymore. You simply don't care how the community you guys have worked at to build up and earn their respect to you looks at you now. You just don't care how the community feels about your wreckless decisions to ban even those that hardly committed any wrongs(like myself, need I remind you). Basically, you don't care about anything, period. Well, sorry, but don't complain when your loyal fans start leaving for good because of those decisions you made. Don't think that they'll ever come back, because after the first an second bans you guys implemented, more than half those people(and there were ALOT of people you banned) you banned didn't come back.

I think it's time you guys started thinking like the community. Because the way you guys are handing out these bans on silver platters like this...boy, I'd be surprised if you still had less than half the number of fans you have today by the end of 2012. I think your ban spree has gone long enough. It's time to start thinking for the community as a WHOLE, not just for those that actually matter.

If you've read through all of this Bungie(and urk), I'd really appreciate it if ONE of your employee's actually DIRECTLY addressed the questions I asked in the above paragraphs. It's not just me that wants those questions answered, but a lot of innocent victims you decided to ban because they had no more than 2 or 3 rude tags in their tags history, as compared to those that have HUNDREDS of rude tags in their tags history. And I'd appreciate it even more if it wasn't some half-assed answer, not caring if you directly addressed the question.

And for those who were banned unjustly by this third Bungie "solution," I hope I have asked all the questions you've all wanted to ask Bungie(and urk).

  • 04.20.2011 5:55 PM PDT

Oh, yep. I've been banned. I said "Author rams" a grand total of one time, and that was my own file. Though my tag history seems to indicate that it's been twice; I remember what I tagged for that file, and it did not say anything about the author ramming or being rammed by anything. Whatev. You guys have become obsessed with "ban first, inform you later". I'm used to it by now.
I enjoy Halo a lot, but the dramatic shift from the light-hearted attitude once held by Bungie has made it a lot more difficult for me to enjoy being a part of your community.

  • 04.20.2011 6:09 PM PDT

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Finally! Anyways, who started these tags?

  • 04.20.2011 6:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: JmanStriker
Oh, yep. I've been banned. I said "Author rams" a grand total of one time, and that was my own file. Though my tag history seems to indicate that it's been twice; I remember what I tagged for that file, and it did not say anything about the author ramming or being rammed by anything. Whatev. You guys have become obsessed with "ban first, inform you later". I'm used to it by now.
I enjoy Halo a lot, but the dramatic shift from the light-hearted attitude once held by Bungie has made it a lot more difficult for me to enjoy being a part of your community.


Thank you. At least I'm not the only one that feels the same way. Though, the "ban first, inform you later" policy is really starting to get aggrevating, and ridiculous. It's probably the main cause so many people have left the community after Reach came out.

  • 04.20.2011 6:24 PM PDT

To Urk, I think it's great that you're banning people for the "author rams" tags, but there's another popular offensive tag that is unfortunately used a lot and I don't know if you guys are banning for it. I constantly see tags of "-blam!-" or other ways of using -blam!- as an insult. "-blam!-" will never be an insult, and it's annoying to see people tag things with it.

[Edited on 04.20.2011 7:20 PM PDT]

  • 04.20.2011 7:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: urk
I probably would too, if I'd been caught for all three activities.
I was only banned for challenge resetting.

The idle banhammer doesn't even work properly considering its horrible success rate, and I don't even idle.

Though, for some reason, I can't tag any files of mine. I remember tagging two "rams" tags in one of my own files a while back because I was bored, but that was it, and I'm not one to go around trolling files on Bungie.net or in game.

As long as the ability to upload content to my file share is not disturbed, I can really care less. I hope I can tag in the future though.

  • 04.20.2011 7:45 PM PDT

Posted by: sheesh1991
What if they just tagged some of THEIR OWN content with these rude tags? I tagged one of my OWN screenshots with a couple rude tags, just to give it a little humor...and it seems I've been banned, because my "sheesh favs" tag history hasn't updated since yesterday night. It seems to me like I've been banned for no reason, other than just to give my OWN content a little humor, and maybe to attract some downloads.

No need for them to answer such a common sense issue, I'll do it for them

First: Punishment in this case is not proportional to the crime. You tagging your own files a few times will reap you the same punishment as if you tagged disgusting things willy-nilly for a month. Don't act like you are getting it worse. You receive the same punishment. There is a reason for this... (see next paragraph)

Second: Whether you like it or not, when you tag something, it is public content. It's not about who tagged who's files, it's about who sees it. You tagging your files inappropriately has the exact same effect as someone else doing it.

If it's inappropriate, you get banned. End of story. The amount of times it was done or the why are irrelevant, because the END RESULT IS THE SAME. Is you swearing at your own grandma any better than some random guy swearing at her? No. Grandma still has a heart attack.

  • 04.20.2011 7:48 PM PDT
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Thank god, i was tired of people abusing the system. but i must confess, i might of made a few crude tags but that was only because some content was explicit such as offensive art work or crude humor types of screenshots. I shall never type a mean tag EVAR again. Banpuppy please have mercy on my soul!!!!

  • 04.20.2011 10:10 PM PDT


Posted by: Kashmir A17
Posted by: sheesh1991
What if they just tagged some of THEIR OWN content with these rude tags? I tagged one of my OWN screenshots with a couple rude tags, just to give it a little humor...and it seems I've been banned, because my "sheesh favs" tag history hasn't updated since yesterday night. It seems to me like I've been banned for no reason, other than just to give my OWN content a little humor, and maybe to attract some downloads.

No need for them to answer such a common sense issue, I'll do it for them

First: Punishment in this case is not proportional to the crime. You tagging your own files a few times will reap you the same punishment as if you tagged disgusting things willy-nilly for a month. Don't act like you are getting it worse. You receive the same punishment. There is a reason for this... (see next paragraph)

Second: Whether you like it or not, when you tag something, it is public content. It's not about who tagged who's files, it's about who sees it. You tagging your files inappropriately has the exact same effect as someone else doing it.

If it's inappropriate, you get banned. End of story. The amount of times it was done or the why are irrelevant, because the END RESULT IS THE SAME. Is you swearing at your own grandma any better than some random guy swearing at her? No. Grandma still has a heart attack.


You know, when I play a game marketed to adults (17-24 range, specificly), I expect that once in a while I can make a joke (even with *gasp* sex­­ual pretenses). Or, you know, once. Total.
Of course, one can say that jokes like this are immature, and I would agree that many of the "ramtaggers" were catering to immature humor. However, my use was not really for the purpose of insulting someone by implying ho­mose­xuality, but instead I was actually trying to parody the phrase, and to my friends who may see the tag on my file, who know that I'm a ho­mose­xual, I thought it may seem humorous. Perhaps this is still somewhat immature, but all humor is, so I don't mind relaxing my standards of propriety now and again.

As for inappropriateness, I think anyone who is too young to be able to read the word "rams" without bawling their eyes out really shouldn't be playing an M rated game. No reason in lingering on this front; let's move on.

Of course, especially as a ho­mose­xual myself, I must admit that in adding this tag, I have helped spread a meme that originally was constructed with strong negative implications towards homo-blam!-ity, along with every other insult used online. Even if I did only add this tag to my own file, and then with sarcastic intent above all else. Yes, even still, I suppose I did spread something that could be seen as offensive to a group of people who, frankly, don't catch many breaks. You don't need to tell me. This is the only valid argument I see for banning the "ramtaggers" to begin with, and of course, this is the only argument all of you self-righteous "fall-in-line activists" have failed to make. Still, I'll give Bungie the benefit of the doubt, and for the sake of argument presume that this was the true reason they chose to suddenly (and without warning) crack down on anyone who had ever tagged a file (or thumbs-upped a tag) with too many instances of the words "ram" or "author". They did it to stop the underlying hate that was spread along with each tag, like a plague.

In that case, noble gesture. But I still believe a warning was in order. Instead, I was given this ban, for one joke, that I can still find humor in myself. Not continued use of the joke after I was already told "no", or excessive use, but one instance. Seriously, I can't even keep up with the bans anymore. It's gotten to the point where I'm afraid to make any jokes on or around Bungie.net. Sure, any joke could offend someone, somewhere, but I think that, as adults, we need to be mature enough to realise, not all of us were doing this to be hateful towards someone. Sometimes the meaning behind use of a single phrase can vary widely among different people. Sometimes we're actually on your side; that is, those who were tired of seeing the meme spammed on everything they read (so we grew to make fun of it). But when something gets out of control, and you feel the need to stop it, you can tell us, and we'll be forced to accept it.

But you can't lump every single person who'd ever used the phrase into one category. As I have thoroughly stated, we weren't all hell-bent hate-spammers. Which is why, when you decide to make this move, you instead warn the whole of the community that any future occurences will be punished, and give your reasoning and move on. Okay, I'll deal with that. I understand. But now I have to labled as an immature dick who likes to make fun of innocent people with biggoted remarks and spam mindless tags and kick kittens and stuff. I don't really care, but it's just really, really overkill, and it isn't a fair way to inforce the law. If I were coherent right now, I'd be making a lot more sense, but as it is, I'm just gonna go to sleep. I hope you could at least take something from this though.

Inform, then enforce (after we KNOW that something is punishable, why it is prohibited, and perhaps how it will be enforced). This whole thing is just really overblown.

Oh, and I do feel sorry for Urk. Sometimes it seems like he has to bear the brunt of the entire community on each and every decision (when they really weren't his to begin with). Even if he did see your point, ramtaggers, he would have to side with whatever conclusions Bungie has reached 100%. And sorry that I'm wording things poorly right now.

  • 04.20.2011 10:27 PM PDT

@: JmanStriker
I get your point, and it makes sense. However, it is Bungie's right to determine what is inappropriate on their website, and their right to enforce it how they see fit. Informing prior to banning would be nice, but I don't really see that changing anything. They knew they were doing something socially frowned upon when they did it, and honestly, shouldn't surprised at all that this is bannable. And you should know, online content is not rated by the ESRB.

Also, what does your dating (not to bypass filter) preference have anything to do with this? It is irrelevant. Like I said, the end result is the same, whether or not you meant it as an inside joke. They lump every person who uses those certain phrases into one category because the outcome of using the phrase is something they deem inappropriate and unrelated to the actual content of the file.

In a way, this first ban was the warning. Most people who play Reach don't read the forums. This would direct them to the website to find out why they were banned, and it would discourage them from doing it again. And even if there was a written warning, do you really think that would stop more than a handful of people? Ignorance of the rules is no excuse for breaking them.

There would be complaints no matter what, and I applaud Bungie for their effort in keeping tags relevant. This is the biggest issue for me. I really don't care how vulgar the tags are beyond the fact that they don't help me find the kinds of files I am looking for, which is the purpose of the tagging system. Tags aren't facebook comments. It's more like labeling folders in a filing cabinet.

I would love to see the day when tags do nothing but describe the actual content... i.e. "rocket race" or "fat kid" etc... Just the facts, no subjective tagging. Search for "awesome new map" and you won't find but one or two maps that you actually like. Search for "grifball" and you will find grifball. I'm more for keeping the system working efficiently than I am upset about the inappropriateness. But some people really find those things offensive, and we have to respect that too.

  • 04.20.2011 10:50 PM PDT

I've only done it twice if I recall , probably not banned from it.. I had to put Author Rams Holograms once, it compelled me.

  • 04.21.2011 12:31 AM PDT
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OP rams puppies.

  • 04.21.2011 12:37 AM PDT

THANK YOU. I hate it when all I see are rude and inappropriate tags. It is irritating when I can't find something I'm looking for or when I see things that appear promising, but then the tags are messed up.

  • 04.21.2011 12:56 AM PDT

Pwning noobs since November 15th 2001

firstly the whole 'rams' thing was hilarious, i personally never tagged the phrase but enjoyed seein it, made me chuckle. It annoys me that we can no longer tag rude or offensive phrases, its part of the fun. Ther should however have just been a system in place that picks up on if someone tags the same content with the same phrase multiple times. That way if the author didnt like it... delete. And the tagger cannot retag.

im sayin this from a neutral point of view as i have NEVER tagged offensive or rude phrases.

the majority of people on this forum are adults and if u get offended by -blam!- references or swear words... grow up.

  • 04.21.2011 3:25 AM PDT

Get ready to face the Magic Of This Muffin!!

I wasn't aware that this thread had moved to china...

  • 04.21.2011 5:28 AM PDT

urk rams puppies.

  • 04.21.2011 7:35 AM PDT