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Posted by: Kashmir A17
Posted by: sheesh1991
What if they just tagged some of THEIR OWN content with these rude tags? I tagged one of my OWN screenshots with a couple rude tags, just to give it a little humor...and it seems I've been banned, because my "sheesh favs" tag history hasn't updated since yesterday night. It seems to me like I've been banned for no reason, other than just to give my OWN content a little humor, and maybe to attract some downloads.
No need for them to answer such a common sense issue, I'll do it for them
First: Punishment in this case is not proportional to the crime. You tagging your own files a few times will reap you the same punishment as if you tagged disgusting things willy-nilly for a month. Don't act like you are getting it worse. You receive the same punishment. There is a reason for this... (see next paragraph)
Second: Whether you like it or not, when you tag something, it is public content. It's not about who tagged who's files, it's about who sees it. You tagging your files inappropriately has the exact same effect as someone else doing it.
If it's inappropriate, you get banned. End of story. The amount of times it was done or the why are irrelevant, because the END RESULT IS THE SAME. Is you swearing at your own grandma any better than some random guy swearing at her? No. Grandma still has a heart attack.
You know, when I play a game marketed to adults (17-24 range, specificly), I expect that once in a while I can make a joke (even with *gasp* sexual pretenses). Or, you know, once. Total.
Of course, one can say that jokes like this are immature, and I would agree that many of the "ramtaggers" were catering to immature humor. However, my use was not really for the purpose of insulting someone by implying homosexuality, but instead I was actually trying to parody the phrase, and to my friends who may see the tag on my file, who know that I'm a homosexual, I thought it may seem humorous. Perhaps this is still somewhat immature, but all humor is, so I don't mind relaxing my standards of propriety now and again.
As for inappropriateness, I think anyone who is too young to be able to read the word "rams" without bawling their eyes out really shouldn't be playing an M rated game. No reason in lingering on this front; let's move on.
Of course, especially as a homosexual myself, I must admit that in adding this tag, I have helped spread a meme that originally was constructed with strong negative implications towards homo-blam!-ity, along with every other insult used online. Even if I did only add this tag to my own file, and then with sarcastic intent above all else. Yes, even still, I suppose I did spread something that could be seen as offensive to a group of people who, frankly, don't catch many breaks. You don't need to tell me. This is the only valid argument I see for banning the "ramtaggers" to begin with, and of course, this is the only argument all of you self-righteous "fall-in-line activists" have failed to make. Still, I'll give Bungie the benefit of the doubt, and for the sake of argument presume that this was the true reason they chose to suddenly (and without warning) crack down on anyone who had ever tagged a file (or thumbs-upped a tag) with too many instances of the words "ram" or "author". They did it to stop the underlying hate that was spread along with each tag, like a plague.
In that case, noble gesture. But I still believe a warning was in order. Instead, I was given this ban, for one joke, that I can still find humor in myself. Not continued use of the joke after I was already told "no", or excessive use, but one instance. Seriously, I can't even keep up with the bans anymore. It's gotten to the point where I'm afraid to make any jokes on or around Bungie.net. Sure, any joke could offend someone, somewhere, but I think that, as adults, we need to be mature enough to realise, not all of us were doing this to be hateful towards someone. Sometimes the meaning behind use of a single phrase can vary widely among different people. Sometimes we're actually on your side; that is, those who were tired of seeing the meme spammed on everything they read (so we grew to make fun of it). But when something gets out of control, and you feel the need to stop it, you can tell us, and we'll be forced to accept it.
But you can't lump every single person who'd ever used the phrase into one category. As I have thoroughly stated, we weren't all hell-bent hate-spammers. Which is why, when you decide to make this move, you instead warn the whole of the community that any future occurences will be punished, and give your reasoning and move on. Okay, I'll deal with that. I understand. But now I have to labled as an immature dick who likes to make fun of innocent people with biggoted remarks and spam mindless tags and kick kittens and stuff. I don't really care, but it's just really, really overkill, and it isn't a fair way to inforce the law. If I were coherent right now, I'd be making a lot more sense, but as it is, I'm just gonna go to sleep. I hope you could at least take something from this though.
Inform, then enforce (after we KNOW that something is punishable, why it is prohibited, and perhaps how it will be enforced). This whole thing is just really overblown.
Oh, and I do feel sorry for Urk. Sometimes it seems like he has to bear the brunt of the entire community on each and every decision (when they really weren't his to begin with). Even if he did see your point, ramtaggers, he would have to side with whatever conclusions Bungie has reached 100%. And sorry that I'm wording things poorly right now.