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Subject: I just realized something crazy about the rings...

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  • 04.19.2011 5:09 PM PDT

Posted by: Dustin 6047
Also, who first mentioned Precursors? Bungie or the writter of Cryptum. Actually the writter could have been part of Bungie. But still, when were they first mentioned? I have heard rumors about them being hinted at in the terminals.

Actually, the Precursors were perhaps hinted at even in Halo 2. While the stone buildings on Delta Halo are of unknown origin, they got speculation going in that direction.

Halo 3's terminals talk of the Mantle, and some, most notably Vociferous, took the term "Mantle" itself to imply that it was something held by someone else before.

  • 04.19.2011 5:15 PM PDT
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For all we know, the Precursors made their ships and buildings out of living biomass. Also it was Bungie who first mentioned the Precursors in the Halo 3 Bestarium. They were mentioned on the Forerunner technological tier page, where the Forerunners rated Precursors above themselves.

  • 04.19.2011 5:17 PM PDT


Posted by: Dustin 6047
The stone buildings like on Sandtrap and Sandbox form Halo 3?
No, the stone buildings on Delta Halo in Halo 2. Though, those stone buildings might count, too; they just came 3 years later.

  • 04.19.2011 5:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dustin 6047
The stone buildings like on Sandtrap and Sandbox form Halo 3?


Precursor structures do not age and wither away into sandstone, they were pretty much eternal and could only be destroyed by the neurological pulse Halo sent out.

  • 04.19.2011 5:23 PM PDT


Posted by: Dustin 6047
Those couldn't be Precursor, neither could the structures on Sandtrap. Precursors are huge. I forget the exact height though.

I didn't say they were. I said they got speculation going back in 2004.

  • 04.19.2011 5:27 PM PDT

I thought the structures on Sandtrap were ruins from the ancient-ancient humans...

  • 04.19.2011 7:57 PM PDT

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You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

It all has to do with the concept of "neural physics."
Supposedly, the universe "lives, but not in the way we do," according to the Precursors. Their more advanced technology was based on this (though we're not exactly sure how), and it allowed them to create virtually indestructible creations. However, the Halos functioned on a much baser neural-physical technology that allowed them to destroy intelligent life forms with a pulse of cross-phased supermassive neutrinos which, due to their nature, were also capable of destroying Precursor constructs.

  • 04.19.2011 9:47 PM PDT

*scratches nuts*

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Posted by: Dustin 6047
The stone buildings like on Sandtrap and Sandbox form Halo 3?
No, the stone buildings on Delta Halo in Halo 2. Though, those stone buildings might count, too; they just came 3 years later.
How do you suppose Precursors built structures on a Forerunner construct?

  • 04.19.2011 10:04 PM PDT

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Cortana: "You know, I think the Forerunners built these new structures around the old, to protect them, to honor them. Pure speculation, mind you. I'd need to make a thorough survey to be sure."

From the level Regret on Halo 2.

  • 04.19.2011 11:17 PM PDT


Posted by: flamedude
Cortana: "You know, I think the Forerunners built these new structures around the old, to protect them, to honor them. Pure speculation, mind you. I'd need to make a thorough survey to be sure."

From the level Regret on Halo 2.


That might just mean that the structures were Forerunner to begin with, and they withered down so much that the Forerunner decided to build over them.

Why would Precursers buid things on Forerunner constructs?

  • 04.19.2011 11:21 PM PDT

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Kind of hinted in Halo 2 by Bungie. Bigger hint in Halo 3 with lots of speculation.

  • 04.19.2011 11:30 PM PDT

In memory of those fallen in the defense of Earth and her colonies.

March 3, 2553


Posted by: flamedude
Cortana: "You know, I think the Forerunners built these new structures around the old, to protect them, to honor them. Pure speculation, mind you. I'd need to make a thorough survey to be sure."

From the level Regret on Halo 2.


Dam you beat me to it.

  • 04.19.2011 11:32 PM PDT

"Precursors are described as "very large", with 4 upper limbs and 2 legs. Also having an "ugly head shaped like arthropods" - like spiders or crabs - they have oval, faceted slanted eyes and a "flat face". Coming from the back of the head is a long tail with a 2 meter barb coming out of it. Whether this is the way all Precursors look has yet to be revealed, but this is the way the prisoner on a Pre-Human world is described.

It is also revealed that this prisoner is the last known Precursor, and that every other Precursor had been ruthlessly killed in a Forerunner-Precursor war almost 150,000 years before the events of Halo and that their answer is at hand - implying that a Proto-Flood form (described as a fine dust, contained in hundreds of glass cylinders) were created as revenge or as a failsafe."


That's a quote from halopedia, and my mind is now blown.

  • 04.19.2011 11:36 PM PDT

We will know soon enough, but it will require thought. Deep thought. Mendicant Bias must be found. The Mantle will soon follow.

01010100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01001001 01110010 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101011 01100101 01111001 00101110

Yes indeed, the extremely aged structures on Installation 05 could very well be Precursor remnants.

Halo 3's terminals gave extremely accurate, vague, cryptic information, as well as leads to things that would be explained in great detail in Cryptum. Surprisingly, ties to Forerunner story have blended almost seamlessly with the canon.

  • 04.19.2011 11:39 PM PDT

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  • 04.20.2011 12:56 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: USArmyRanger7RB
"Precursors are described as "very large", with 4 upper limbs and 2 legs. Also having an "ugly head shaped like arthropods" - like spiders or crabs - they have oval, faceted slanted eyes and a "flat face". Coming from the back of the head is a long tail with a 2 meter barb coming out of it. Whether this is the way all Precursors look has yet to be revealed, but this is the way the prisoner on a Pre-Human world is described.

It is also revealed that this prisoner is the last known Precursor, and that every other Precursor had been ruthlessly killed in a Forerunner-Precursor war almost 150,000 years before the events of Halo and that their answer is at hand - implying that a Proto-Flood form (described as a fine dust, contained in hundreds of glass cylinders) were created as revenge or as a failsafe."


That's a quote from halopedia, and my mind is now blown.


No,hundreds of millions of years before Cryptum

  • 04.20.2011 2:23 AM PDT

*scratches nuts*

Posted by: flamedude
Cortana: "You know, I think the Forerunners built these new structures around the old, to protect them, to honor them. Pure speculation, mind you. I'd need to make a thorough survey to be sure."

From the level Regret on Halo 2.
Still doesn't make any sense. Why would there be Precurser buildings on a ring the Forerunners built thousands of years after the war?

Unless the rings are Precurser constructs stolen by the Forerunner.

[Edited on 04.20.2011 2:49 AM PDT]

  • 04.20.2011 2:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: flamedude
Cortana: "You know, I think the Forerunners built these new structures around the old, to protect them, to honor them. Pure speculation, mind you. I'd need to make a thorough survey to be sure."

From the level Regret on Halo 2.
Still doesn't make any sense. Why would there be Precurser buildings on a ring the Forerunners built thousands of years after the war?

Unless the rings are Precurser constructs stolen by the Forerunner.


They are probably human structures that were moved to Halo so that they could be preserved.

  • 04.20.2011 4:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: flamedude
Cortana: "You know, I think the Forerunners built these new structures around the old, to protect them, to honor them. Pure speculation, mind you. I'd need to make a thorough survey to be sure."

From the level Regret on Halo 2.
Still doesn't make any sense. Why would there be Precurser buildings on a ring the Forerunners built thousands of years after the war?

Unless the rings are Precurser constructs stolen by the Forerunner.


They are probably human structures that were moved to Halo so that they could be preserved.


Doesn't seem likely with the Master Builder around.
I beleive it may have been the captive in Cryptum.

  • 04.20.2011 4:18 AM PDT

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