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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Posted by: General Noobus
Posted by: flamedude
Cortana: "You know, I think the Forerunners built these new structures around the old, to protect them, to honor them. Pure speculation, mind you. I'd need to make a thorough survey to be sure."

From the level Regret on Halo 2.
Still doesn't make any sense. Why would there be Precurser buildings on a ring the Forerunners built thousands of years after the war?

Unless the rings are Precurser constructs stolen by the Forerunner.


I would like to say first off anybody that actually paid attention while reading cryptum knows they aren't precursor structures. Precursor buildings were said to be greyish crystalline structures that were nearly indestructible.


I think that the ruins are of ancient man that the librarian wanted to preserve. Halos were meant to be a temporary preserve for life while they were being sent to the Ark, along with the purpose of testing that life's resistance to the flood.

  • 04.20.2011 4:23 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: grey101
Posted by: General Noobus
Posted by: flamedude
Cortana: "You know, I think the Forerunners built these new structures around the old, to protect them, to honor them. Pure speculation, mind you. I'd need to make a thorough survey to be sure."

From the level Regret on Halo 2.
Still doesn't make any sense. Why would there be Precurser buildings on a ring the Forerunners built thousands of years after the war?

Unless the rings are Precurser constructs stolen by the Forerunner.


I would like to say first off anybody that actually paid attention while reading cryptum knows they aren't precursor structures. Precursor buildings were said to be greyish crystalline structures that were nearly indestructible.


And placing Precursor structures on Halo is just ironic. Like it's a giant middle finger at the Precursors.

I think that the ruins are of ancient man that the librarian wanted to preserve. Halos were meant to be a temporary preserve for life while they were being sent to the Ark, along with the purpose of testing that life's resistance to the flood.

I was thinking these structures fit the same aesthetic as those from the Babysitter, since Cortana speculates the Forerunners wanted to preserve the structures and honour them that leads me to think they are Ancient Human structures. They'd be a constant reminder of what they did to humanity and the idea that humanity is indeed the rightful owner of the Mantle.

  • 04.20.2011 4:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
Posted by: General Noobus
Posted by: flamedude
Cortana: "You know, I think the Forerunners built these new structures around the old, to protect them, to honor them. Pure speculation, mind you. I'd need to make a thorough survey to be sure."

From the level Regret on Halo 2.
Still doesn't make any sense. Why would there be Precurser buildings on a ring the Forerunners built thousands of years after the war?

Unless the rings are Precurser constructs stolen by the Forerunner.


I would like to say first off anybody that actually paid attention while reading cryptum knows they aren't precursor structures. Precursor buildings were said to be greyish crystalline structures that were nearly indestructible.


I think that the ruins are of ancient man that the librarian wanted to preserve. Halos were meant to be a temporary preserve for life while they were being sent to the Ark, along with the purpose of testing that life's resistance to the flood.
Haven't read Cryptum, too poor. I suppose that makes sense.

  • 04.20.2011 4:35 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: General Noobus
Posted by: grey101
Posted by: General Noobus
Posted by: flamedude
Cortana: "You know, I think the Forerunners built these new structures around the old, to protect them, to honor them. Pure speculation, mind you. I'd need to make a thorough survey to be sure."

From the level Regret on Halo 2.
Still doesn't make any sense. Why would there be Precurser buildings on a ring the Forerunners built thousands of years after the war?

Unless the rings are Precurser constructs stolen by the Forerunner.


I would like to say first off anybody that actually paid attention while reading cryptum knows they aren't precursor structures. Precursor buildings were said to be greyish crystalline structures that were nearly indestructible.


I think that the ruins are of ancient man that the librarian wanted to preserve. Halos were meant to be a temporary preserve for life while they were being sent to the Ark, along with the purpose of testing that life's resistance to the flood.
Haven't read Cryptum, too poor. I suppose that makes sense.


I can't believe the hardcover edition is 30 quid, that's ridiculous. I'm not a big fan of paperbacks but I was not prepared to spend £30 for a single novel, even if it's Halo.

  • 04.20.2011 4:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: General Noobus
Posted by: grey101
Posted by: General Noobus
Posted by: flamedude
Cortana: "You know, I think the Forerunners built these new structures around the old, to protect them, to honor them. Pure speculation, mind you. I'd need to make a thorough survey to be sure."

From the level Regret on Halo 2.
Still doesn't make any sense. Why would there be Precurser buildings on a ring the Forerunners built thousands of years after the war?

Unless the rings are Precurser constructs stolen by the Forerunner.


I would like to say first off anybody that actually paid attention while reading cryptum knows they aren't precursor structures. Precursor buildings were said to be greyish crystalline structures that were nearly indestructible.


I think that the ruins are of ancient man that the librarian wanted to preserve. Halos were meant to be a temporary preserve for life while they were being sent to the Ark, along with the purpose of testing that life's resistance to the flood.
Haven't read Cryptum, too poor. I suppose that makes sense.


I can't believe the hardcover edition is 30 quid, that's ridiculous. I'm not a big fan of paperbacks but I was not prepared to spend £30 for a single novel, even if it's Halo.
I would buy it if I could, but food and living costs are more important.

  • 04.20.2011 4:41 AM PDT
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Why would the precursor structures be
1. On halos left to crumble rather than be preserved in a forerunner museum of some sort
2. If it's precursor, why would the buildings be so primitive, they were more advanced than the forerunners, so that doesn't fit

I think they are old forerunner structures to remember that even they had primitive roots.

  • 04.20.2011 4:42 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: General Noobus
I would buy it if I could, but food and living costs are more important.


Indeed.

  • 04.20.2011 4:47 AM PDT

Let’s have some meaningful discussion for once shall we.


Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: General Noobus
I would buy it if I could, but food and living costs are more important.


Indeed.

I got my copy imported through waterstones for £16.27 from America and it arrived a week after it was released in America.

  • 04.20.2011 5:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

30 quid? to lazy to figure out how much that is in dollars, but i got mine for 15 bucks when it first came out. Lunch money FTW

  • 04.20.2011 5:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
30 quid? to lazy to figure out how much that is in dollars, but i got mine for 15 bucks when it first came out. Lunch money FTW
Like $50/60. Dunno how much it is here in New Zealand but I sure as -blam!- can't afford it at the moment.

  • 04.20.2011 5:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: General Noobus
Posted by: grey101
30 quid? to lazy to figure out how much that is in dollars, but i got mine for 15 bucks when it first came out. Lunch money FTW
Like $50/60. Dunno how much it is here in New Zealand but I sure as -blam!- can't afford it at the moment.


What the hell? our economy is nonexistent, how is it cheaper here?

  • 04.20.2011 5:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
Posted by: General Noobus
Posted by: grey101
30 quid? to lazy to figure out how much that is in dollars, but i got mine for 15 bucks when it first came out. Lunch money FTW
Like $50/60. Dunno how much it is here in New Zealand but I sure as -blam!- can't afford it at the moment.


What the hell? our economy is nonexistent, how is it cheaper here?
Dunno.

  • 04.20.2011 5:31 AM PDT
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Posted by: grey101
What the hell? our economy is nonexistent, how is it cheaper here?
Your economy isn't as bad as the doomsayers would have ou believe.
Also, everything MS is cheaper in America. Check out MS points.

  • 04.20.2011 5:34 AM PDT


Posted by: THE ROZERS
Why would the precursor structures be
1. On halos left to crumble rather than be preserved in a forerunner museum of some sort
2. If it's precursor, why would the buildings be so primitive, they were more advanced than the forerunners, so that doesn't fit

I think they are old forerunner structures to remember that even they had primitive roots.


They cant be Precursor; the Precursor's technology was briefly described as looking like crystal (also ruling out the concept of biomatter, likely a more cosmic material that'd fit with the fabric of the universe).

  • 04.20.2011 5:34 AM PDT

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"That's a ridiculous question."
"False. Master Chief."
"Well, that's debatable. There are basically two schools of thought."
"Spartans shoot Sangheili. Spartans. Sangheili.....Battle Star Galactica."


Posted by: General Noobus
Posted by: grey101
Posted by: General Noobus
Posted by: grey101
30 quid? to lazy to figure out how much that is in dollars, but i got mine for 15 bucks when it first came out. Lunch money FTW
Like $50/60. Dunno how much it is here in New Zealand but I sure as -blam!- can't afford it at the moment.


What the hell? our economy is nonexistent, how is it cheaper here?
Dunno.


I got mine for like 7 bucks or something on Amazon Kindle.

  • 04.20.2011 6:03 AM PDT

Posted by: Reptilian Rob
Precursors are The Flood.

Most logical and lame plot twist ever.


Not the flood so much as they were graveminds, which control the flood.

  • 04.20.2011 6:43 AM PDT

Actually Eric Nylund mentioned precursors in one of the books

  • 04.20.2011 2:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: philipnash19
Actually Eric Nylund mentioned precursors in one of the books

If he did he used it as the actual word and not the race.

  • 04.20.2011 4:15 PM PDT

pretty sure the rings are Forerunner constructs, think its even mentioned in the newest book, that the Master Builder built the rings as a final solution, so he couldn't have 'built' them if they were stolen.

also I think it is also hinted in the same book that Precursor buildings are built with a superior understanding of the universe and what it is, so obviously their structures are built from an 'eternal' material that is for some reason vulnerable to the effects of the Halos, for some 'higher' not fully understood reason, hell the Forerunner didn't even understand basic stuff involving Precursor technology, so they must have been unbelievably advanced, begging the question how the hell did they get wiped out?

here is another question, a little off topic but here we go anyway, the Forerunner didn't loose the war against the Flood, they lost the war against Medicant Bias...? is that correct? the Forerunner were holding their own against the Flood until Bias turned on them and breached the Maginot Sphere, that is the conclusion I have came up with so far! also after reading though all of the terminals again (replay of Halo 3) the Covenant are stupid, the great journey is nothing to do with ascension or something similar, it is literal, the Forerunner referring to a great journey, i.e. leaving the galaxy.

  • 04.20.2011 5:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
pretty sure the rings are Forerunner constructs, think its even mentioned in the newest book, that the Master Builder built the rings as a final solution, so he couldn't have 'built' them if they were stolen.

also I think it is also hinted in the same book that Precursor buildings are built with a superior understanding of the universe and what it is, so obviously their structures are built from an 'eternal' material that is for some reason vulnerable to the effects of the Halos, for some 'higher' not fully understood reason, hell the Forerunner didn't even understand basic stuff involving Precursor technology, so they must have been unbelievably advanced, begging the question how the hell did they get wiped out?

here is another question, a little off topic but here we go anyway, the Forerunner didn't loose the war against the Flood, they lost the war against Medicant Bias...? is that correct? the Forerunner were holding their own against the Flood until Bias turned on them and breached the Maginot Sphere, that is the conclusion I have came up with so far! also after reading though all of the terminals again (replay of Halo 3) the Covenant are stupid, the great journey is nothing to do with ascension or something similar, it is literal, the Forerunner referring to a great journey, i.e. leaving the galaxy.


1. Precursor structures are built with some organic matter which is why the array affects them. As for the forerunner fighting the precursor they used their own tech against them. Common sense.

2.The forerunners were losing systems to the flood but due to their extreme pride they couldn't admit that to the public and more so to humanity who they saw as a lesser race even thought they were able to push the flood back.

3. It is unlikely that the forerunner left the galaxy if you actually take everything into context, along with the fact you can't just leave the galaxy on whim.

  • 04.20.2011 5:07 PM PDT

-bow chicka brown cow-

ok so i was reading on the halo pedia (forgot what page) it stated that the precursors belived the everything including energy and in-animate things are linked together beyond a biological thing can possibly understand. its like everything is connected together (in the halo universe) by a universal nervous system. so thats why the precursors structures can be destroyed by the halos

  • 04.20.2011 5:09 PM PDT

There was a Precursor-Forerunner war, as revenge the Precursor's made the flood.

It was in a book, don't remember which one :/

  • 04.20.2011 5:30 PM PDT

how on Earth do the Forerunner use Precursor technology against them, many many many years before Cryptum, when they still have absolutely no idea how it even works...? that is like humans being defeated by ducks, with them using our technology against us, even though they have no ability to understand or use our technology thus rendering it impossible surely? Precursor technology must have been very very advanced if the Forerunner (who could build entire worlds, massive spheres concealed in another 'dimension', build weapons that can actually eliminate all life in a galaxy, the list goes on) couldn't even understand the principles of what it was based on. bringing me back to the question how do you combat that?

the only possible answer for me is similar to what happened in Stargate universe, the Ancients were very very advanced but they weren't warlike or anything, so where relatively inept at fighting.

also how is it hard to believe a species as advanced as the Forerunner could leave the galaxy by choice? look at how far away Installation 00 was from their space, getting their took what, the blink of an eye? would probably equate to getting to another galaxy taking a couple of minutes!

  • 04.20.2011 5:39 PM PDT

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