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Subject: Noble 6's armor after death (contains First Strike spoilers)

"Question. Which Spartan is best?"
"That's a ridiculous question."
"False. Master Chief."
"Well, that's debatable. There are basically two schools of thought."
"Spartans shoot Sangheili. Spartans. Sangheili.....Battle Star Galactica."

I've got a question or two about Noble 6's death, namely what happened to him afterwards. I'm guessing there isn't any definitive writing on his exact situation, but I'm sure we can deduct what might have happened.

Noble 6 wears MJOLNIR armor, right? An armor that, through the Spartan II's and select Spartan III's, pretty much helps save the Human war effort. Without that armor, they're toast early on. This armor has to be insanely important to the human cause, and can't be allowed to fall into Covenant hands, right?

SPOILERS
In First Strike, Spartan II Grace-093 gets torn apart by a Brute shot. She's deadzilla, and Master Chief activates her MJOLNIR armor's fail safe detonation.

Noble 6 is pretty damn busy fighting off Elites and all of those other jerks - it doesn't look like he has time to activate anything.

Did the Covanent get the armor? Does the armor have an AUTOMATIC detonation? That doesn't seem safe.

Thoughts? I'm a little OCD, and this has been bothering me, so thanks for bearing with me.



[Edited on 04.20.2011 7:58 AM PDT]

  • 04.20.2011 7:57 AM PDT

"Your body, your armor,-all burned and turned to glass."

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

I don't think it has an Auto destruct (which it should), i know that one spartan got killed fighting Some Elite in cole protcole and the elite let the grunts play with his helmet as a reward.

So no auto detonation.

  • 04.20.2011 8:03 AM PDT

Posted by: ArcticMan94
"Your body, your armor,-all burned and turned to glass."

You can clearly see his helmet is relatively intact

  • 04.20.2011 8:03 AM PDT

"Question. Which Spartan is best?"
"That's a ridiculous question."
"False. Master Chief."
"Well, that's debatable. There are basically two schools of thought."
"Spartans shoot Sangheili. Spartans. Sangheili.....Battle Star Galactica."


Posted by: ArcticMan94
"Your body, your armor,-all burned and turned to glass."


His helmet it still there. I'd bet my bottom dollar that those darn Elites would have had orders to grab that armor. They know how awesome it is.

I guess she does say that, though...hmmm.

Thanks.

  • 04.20.2011 8:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: aidmania
Posted by: ArcticMan94
"Your body, your armor,-all burned and turned to glass."

You can clearly see his helmet is relatively intact


Symbolism. Nothing more than a metaphor to emphasise that he "belongs" to Reach.

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correct me if im wrong but i dont think noble 6 has MJOLNIR?

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
correct me if im wrong but i dont think noble 6 has MJOLNIR?


Sadly he does.

  • 04.20.2011 8:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
correct me if im wrong but i dont think noble 6 has MJOLNIR?


Sadly he does.

Um im pretty sure he doesnt. It certainly doesnt look like MJONLIR either.

  • 04.20.2011 8:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
correct me if im wrong but i dont think noble 6 has MJOLNIR?


Sadly he does.


Headhunters features an SPI variant of MJOLNIR, that should have been in Reach to make it a bit more believable. Instead all the characters have to have custom armour designed to awe the younger generation of Halo's fanbase.

  • 04.20.2011 8:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
Posted by: grey101
Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
correct me if im wrong but i dont think noble 6 has MJOLNIR?


Sadly he does.

Um im pretty sure he doesnt. It certainly doesnt look like MJONLIR either.


Er... what?

MJOLNIR is the name of the armour, the armour has different variants like EVA, EOD etc. The default Noble Six wears MJOLNIR Mark V [B], this is simply another variant of MJOLNIR.

  • 04.20.2011 8:38 AM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Posted by: grey101
i know that one spartan got killed fighting Some Elite in cole protcole and the elite let the grunts play with his helmet as a reward.

Would you mind citing that?

  • 04.20.2011 9:14 AM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
Posted by: grey101
Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
correct me if im wrong but i dont think noble 6 has MJOLNIR?


Sadly he does.

Um im pretty sure he doesnt. It certainly doesnt look like MJONLIR either.


Er... what?

MJOLNIR is the name of the armour, the armour has different variants like EVA, EOD etc. The default Noble Six wears MJOLNIR Mark V [B], this is simply another variant of MJOLNIR.


That would only be his helmet though, he wears the regular Mark V armor.

  • 04.20.2011 9:53 AM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
Posted by: grey101
Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
correct me if im wrong but i dont think noble 6 has MJOLNIR?


Sadly he does.

Um im pretty sure he doesnt. It certainly doesnt look like MJONLIR either.


Er... what?

MJOLNIR is the name of the armour, the armour has different variants like EVA, EOD etc. The default Noble Six wears MJOLNIR Mark V [B], this is simply another variant of MJOLNIR.


That would only be his helmet though, he wears the regular Mark V armor.


I dispute this, as seen on the cover of The Cole Protocol, it is clearly MkIV armour.

Not to mention it is bulkier than both MkV and MkVI we had seen prior to Reach.

Therefore I propose that MkV(B) is merely MkIV with shields, developed as a cheap MOJOLNIR variant for the SIII black-ops teams such as NOBLE.

  • 04.20.2011 10:05 AM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: aidmania
Posted by: ArcticMan94
"Your body, your armor,-all burned and turned to glass."

You can clearly see his helmet is relatively intact


Symbolism. Nothing more than a metaphor to emphasise that he "belongs" to Reach.


Frigate is intact also. Which means a glassing beam did not pass over that exact area.

Which means his body and armor were not destroyed unless the Elites took time to burn him with plasma weapon fire.

  • 04.20.2011 10:06 AM PDT


Posted by: RotaryCookie
I dispute this, as seen on the cover of The Cole Protocol, it is clearly MkIV armour.

Not to mention it is bulkier than both MkV and MkVI we had seen prior to Reach.

Therefore I propose that MkV(B) is merely MkIV with shields, developed as a cheap MOJOLNIR variant for the SIII black-ops teams such as NOBLE.


Mark V is basically Mark IV with shields.

Mark V(B) is ONLY a helm. Why would they bother making two complete variants of the same armor, one which is cheaper or 'weaker'.

It's like(For an example) at the start of Halo 2, Master Chief and an unnamed Spartan.

"Hey Master Chief, here is Mark VI armor."

*Turns to the other.*

"Oh, here is Mark VI(B), a cheaper and weaker variant of mark six that they, for some reason, made ONLY FOR YOU!"

Logistically, it's stupid. There is nothing proving Mark V(B) is anything more then a helm.

Oh, to expand, Grey team most likely had a customized version of Mark IV, being behind enemy lines for so long. Also, in the Book master Chief literally does not tell the difference between Mark IV and Mark V other then the Mark V armor he was going up to was "New and not scarred"

[Edited on 04.20.2011 10:17 AM PDT]

  • 04.20.2011 10:12 AM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
Posted by: grey101
Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
correct me if im wrong but i dont think noble 6 has MJOLNIR?


Sadly he does.

Um im pretty sure he doesnt. It certainly doesnt look like MJONLIR either.


Er... what?

MJOLNIR is the name of the armour, the armour has different variants like EVA, EOD etc. The default Noble Six wears MJOLNIR Mark V [B], this is simply another variant of MJOLNIR.


That would only be his helmet though, he wears the regular Mark V armor.


There is no canon helmet that Six wears, Six is whatever you want the character to be. The armor is whatever armor you choose to give Six, just like Six's gender is whatever you choose.

  • 04.20.2011 10:14 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Hmmm, interesting I've always seen the MJOLNIR armor depicted in Reach as less bulky than the MKV and MKVI of Halo 1 and Halo 2/3, although that's just my opinion.

We should compare the armors though.

Chief's Mark IV.

Six's Mark V.

"Oh, here is Mark VI(B), a cheaper and weaker variant of mark six that they, for some reason, made ONLY FOR YOU!"

I actually laughed out loud as I pictured that on my head.

[Edited on 04.20.2011 10:18 AM PDT]

  • 04.20.2011 10:16 AM PDT

@Cmdr DaeFaron; cbf arguing. If that is the case then it is by far the worst rendition of MJOLNIR I can think of. Including rabid fanboi/gurl designs.

  • 04.20.2011 10:21 AM PDT

*Shrug* Even if the Mark V(B) counts for the entire armor and not the helm (Haven't seen anything that points to that.) Why does it automatically mean it's weaker and cheaper?

  • 04.20.2011 10:26 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Most evidence points to the armor being Mark V.

The helmet is the only component of the Mark V[B] that has been specifically named and identified in the armory. The rest of the default suit of armor appears to be a graphically updated version of the standard Mark V suit without the shoulders, which can be purchased separately.

Halopedian article on Mark V[B]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: aidmania
Posted by: ArcticMan94
"Your body, your armor,-all burned and turned to glass."

You can clearly see his helmet is relatively intact


Symbolism. Nothing more than a metaphor to emphasise that he "belongs" to Reach.


Frigate is intact also. Which means a glassing beam did not pass over that exact area.

Which means his body and armor were not destroyed unless the Elites took time to burn him with plasma weapon fire.


What frigate? i saw a colony ship at the edge of the screen and that is it.

  • 04.20.2011 12:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: aidmania
Posted by: ArcticMan94
"Your body, your armor,-all burned and turned to glass."

You can clearly see his helmet is relatively intact


Symbolism. Nothing more than a metaphor to emphasise that he "belongs" to Reach.


Frigate is intact also. Which means a glassing beam did not pass over that exact area.

Which means his body and armor were not destroyed unless the Elites took time to burn him with plasma weapon fire.


What frigate? i saw a colony ship at the edge of the screen and that is it.


He's referring to this (2:54). I don't think it's a Frigate, it looks too small and may simply be a building. There were no UNSC ships around Aszod other than the Autumn, there can't have been a Frigate there.

  • 04.20.2011 12:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
i know that one spartan got killed fighting Some Elite in cole protcole and the elite let the grunts play with his helmet as a reward.

Would you mind citing that?
I thought you'd know this one Rtas. Although they did not cite the part about letting the grunts play with his helmet, and the link to the source is now broken. You can only rely on trust, and I do recall reading that bit from the Halo Wars teaser site.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: grey101
i know that one spartan got killed fighting Some Elite in cole protcole and the elite let the grunts play with his helmet as a reward.

Would you mind citing that?
I thought you'd know this one Rtas. Although they did not cite the part about letting the grunts play with his helmet, and the link to the source is now broken. You can only rely on trust, and I do recall reading that bit from the Halo Wars teaser site.


Werid. i could have swore that was mentioned in cole Protocol. thats really odd.

  • 04.20.2011 12:15 PM PDT

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