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Posted by: zarrowsmith
If any one has ever read the books, then they would know why Master Chief is the best Spartan. He can do nothing but win (Insert Charlie Sheen reference here). He never accepts defeat, therefore he never loses and that's what makes him the best leader, and the best Spartan. Also, the whole Luck thing.


Um, no other Spartan accepts defeat.

If any one has read the books, they know he isn't the strongest, smartest, or fastest.

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Well he did take out an entire armada of ships and save Earth from certain doom. However, I must admit he did get lucky at times, Cortana said it herself.

  • 04.24.2011 9:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: ansac11
Well he did take out an entire armada of ships and save Earth from certain doom. However, I must admit he did get lucky at times, Cortana said it herself.

Cortana overloaded the Unyielding Hierophants generators and Vice Admiral Danforth Whitcomb baited the COvenant armada towards the Hierophant with a message saying he had a valuable Forerunner Slipspace crystal.

  • 04.24.2011 9:25 PM PDT

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It is Linda. She is said to work alone like 6, she is the best sniper of all the spartans, she snipes pilots of banshees through an inch wide crack from several hundred feet while hanging upside down using one hand.... She also hits an incomming missle several times on the nuke mission with kurt.

Hyper lehtal does not mean (I'm assuming) best at planting large amounts of explosives or mowing things down with a chain gun. Also if anyone remembers the spartan II actions against rebels they involved alot of stealth and sniping, the things that Linda exels at.

While we have no direct confirmation, I think the above indicates that Linda is more worthy then the MC. Master Chief is not "Hyper lethal" Maybe "Hyper lucky" or Hyper awesome command skills" but not "hyper lethal"

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Posted by: Dustin 6047
Technically according to Dr. Halsey he was average among the Spartans, but in one of the Reach trailers, it is implied that he, along with 6, are the only Spartans with the rating: Hyper Leathal, if I'm spelling it right.


No. It's Lethal. And by the way, there are only TWO Hyper-Lethal vectors. John-117 and Noble Six.

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Posted by: Dustin 6047
Technically according to Dr. Halsey he was average among the Spartans, but in one of the Reach trailers, it is implied that he, along with 6, are the only Spartans with the rating: Hyper Leathal, if I'm spelling it right.


It is said that Noble 6 is hyper-lethal, along with one other. It makes no reference of any sort as to who that person is. Considering John's opinion on Spartans, it would likely be Fred. He came in second place in every competition and skill test, and John believes he coulld have come in first but just didn't like the attention. Him, or someone new they will invent.


Dude, the other hyper-lethal Spartan is the Chief.

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Posted by: Makko Mace
It is Linda. She is said to work alone like 6, she is the best sniper of all the spartans, she snipes pilots of banshees through an inch wide crack from several hundred feet while hanging upside down using one hand.... She also hits an incomming missle several times on the nuke mission with kurt.

Hyper lehtal does not mean (I'm assuming) best at planting large amounts of explosives or mowing things down with a chain gun. Also if anyone remembers the spartan II actions against rebels they involved alot of stealth and sniping, the things that Linda exels at.

While we have no direct confirmation, I think the above indicates that Linda is more worthy then the MC. Master Chief is not "Hyper lethal" Maybe "Hyper lucky" or Hyper awesome command skills" but not "hyper lethal"


He's very much "Hyper lethal".
See for yourself.
Check "Later Career"
Click where it says "one other Spartan" in that page. It'll direct you to John's page.

  • 04.24.2011 9:43 PM PDT

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Please state where it says that Master Chief is hyper lethal.


And the wikia is not a legit source...

[Edited on 04.24.2011 9:45 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Makko Mace
Please state where it says that Master Chief is hyper lethal.


And the wikia is not a legit source...


-blam!- you. Find me a better source, then.

  • 04.24.2011 9:48 PM PDT


Posted by: Astinous
Posted by: Makko Mace
It is Linda. She is said to work alone like 6, she is the best sniper of all the spartans, she snipes pilots of banshees through an inch wide crack from several hundred feet while hanging upside down using one hand.... She also hits an incomming missle several times on the nuke mission with kurt.

Hyper lehtal does not mean (I'm assuming) best at planting large amounts of explosives or mowing things down with a chain gun. Also if anyone remembers the spartan II actions against rebels they involved alot of stealth and sniping, the things that Linda exels at.

While we have no direct confirmation, I think the above indicates that Linda is more worthy then the MC. Master Chief is not "Hyper lethal" Maybe "Hyper lucky" or Hyper awesome command skills" but not "hyper lethal"


He's very much "Hyper lethal".
See for yourself.
Check "Later Career"
Click where it says "one other Spartan" in that page. It'll direct you to John's page.


Um, just saying, I can edit that page to redirect to Johnson, or Jenkins.

  • 04.24.2011 9:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: Astinous
Posted by: Makko Mace
It is Linda. She is said to work alone like 6, she is the best sniper of all the spartans, she snipes pilots of banshees through an inch wide crack from several hundred feet while hanging upside down using one hand.... She also hits an incomming missle several times on the nuke mission with kurt.

Hyper lehtal does not mean (I'm assuming) best at planting large amounts of explosives or mowing things down with a chain gun. Also if anyone remembers the spartan II actions against rebels they involved alot of stealth and sniping, the things that Linda exels at.

While we have no direct confirmation, I think the above indicates that Linda is more worthy then the MC. Master Chief is not "Hyper lethal" Maybe "Hyper lucky" or Hyper awesome command skills" but not "hyper lethal"


He's very much "Hyper lethal".
See for yourself.
Check "Later Career"
Click where it says "one other Spartan" in that page. It'll direct you to John's page.


Um, just saying, I can edit that page to redirect to Johnson, or Jenkins.


Exactly, and who agrees with Linda making the most sense?

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Posted by: Astinous
Posted by: Makko Mace
It is Linda. She is said to work alone like 6, she is the best sniper of all the spartans, she snipes pilots of banshees through an inch wide crack from several hundred feet while hanging upside down using one hand.... She also hits an incomming missle several times on the nuke mission with kurt.

Hyper lehtal does not mean (I'm assuming) best at planting large amounts of explosives or mowing things down with a chain gun. Also if anyone remembers the spartan II actions against rebels they involved alot of stealth and sniping, the things that Linda exels at.

While we have no direct confirmation, I think the above indicates that Linda is more worthy then the MC. Master Chief is not "Hyper lethal" Maybe "Hyper lucky" or Hyper awesome command skills" but not "hyper lethal"


He's very much "Hyper lethal".
See for yourself.
Check "Later Career"
Click where it says "one other Spartan" in that page. It'll direct you to John's page.


Um, just saying, I can edit that page to redirect to Johnson, or Jenkins.


Exactly, and who agrees with Linda making the most sense?


No one. Linda's nothing but a SNIPER. She SITS through the battle killing people from a distance. All the hard work is left to the infantry.
Besides, if the link of the page I provided wasn't the correct one, it would be fixed.

  • 04.24.2011 10:08 PM PDT


Posted by: Makko Mace
Posted by: Astinous
Posted by: Makko Mace
It is Linda. She is said to work alone like 6, she is the best sniper of all the spartans, she snipes pilots of banshees through an inch wide crack from several hundred feet while hanging upside down using one hand.... She also hits an incomming missle several times on the nuke mission with kurt.

Hyper lehtal does not mean (I'm assuming) best at planting large amounts of explosives or mowing things down with a chain gun. Also if anyone remembers the spartan II actions against rebels they involved alot of stealth and sniping, the things that Linda exels at.

While we have no direct confirmation, I think the above indicates that Linda is more worthy then the MC. Master Chief is not "Hyper lethal" Maybe "Hyper lucky" or Hyper awesome command skills" but not "hyper lethal"


He's very much "Hyper lethal".
See for yourself.
Check "Later Career"
Click where it says "one other Spartan" in that page. It'll direct you to John's page.


Um, just saying, I can edit that page to redirect to Johnson, or Jenkins.


Exactly, and who agrees with Linda making the most sense?


She's the one who is described as being a lone wolf Spartan II. and she sniped two people so damn fast another Spartan couldn't even tell which was killed first. She sniped pilots out of banshees, while hanging upside-down from a catwalk by a rope tied around a leg, holding the sniper rifle with a single hand! If that isn't damn hyper-lethal, WHAT IS?

Honestly, she sounds like one of the deadliest Spartan IIs.

  • 04.24.2011 10:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: Astinous
Posted by: Makko Mace
Posted by: Astinous
Posted by: Makko Mace
It is Linda. She is said to work alone like 6, she is the best sniper of all the spartans, she snipes pilots of banshees through an inch wide crack from several hundred feet while hanging upside down using one hand.... She also hits an incomming missle several times on the nuke mission with kurt.

Hyper lehtal does not mean (I'm assuming) best at planting large amounts of explosives or mowing things down with a chain gun. Also if anyone remembers the spartan II actions against rebels they involved alot of stealth and sniping, the things that Linda exels at.

While we have no direct confirmation, I think the above indicates that Linda is more worthy then the MC. Master Chief is not "Hyper lethal" Maybe "Hyper lucky" or Hyper awesome command skills" but not "hyper lethal"


He's very much "Hyper lethal".
See for yourself.
Check "Later Career"
Click where it says "one other Spartan" in that page. It'll direct you to John's page.


Um, just saying, I can edit that page to redirect to Johnson, or Jenkins.


Exactly, and who agrees with Linda making the most sense?


No one. Linda's nothing but a SNIPER. She SITS through the battle killing people from a distance. All the hard work is left to the infantry.

Linda like all the other spartans were trained to excel in all forms of combat. Shes not just a sniper. If the situation calls for it she could pick up a assault rifle or SMG and fight in CQC as well as the other spartans.

  • 04.24.2011 11:39 PM PDT

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Chief is most likely the best all-around Spartan. He was definitely not "average". He was not the best at any one particular thing, but being second-best at everything still leaves you in the best position compared to someone with very specialized strengths and weaknesses.


He was average and he wasn't second best at anything.

His trait was luck which is why everybody thinks he is the best, which i find arbitrary seeing how if the trilogy was based off any other spartan you would think they were the best since thats the only one you know of.


Kinda this. I have to wonder if some of the people zealously saying he is the best and nobody could do what he did are just frightened that we've seen other Spartans ingame now and they performed just as well?

And they foolishly thing that he and the rings are what represent halo.


Grey.

Are you high? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT REPRESENTS HALO

  • 04.25.2011 1:11 AM PDT

Spartans never die... they just revert to last checkpoint.


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There is nothing saying Linda was weak in CQC.

There is nothing saying Fred was weak at longer ranges.

Spartans, by default are good at everything. In their specialties they are masters.

Chief, had no specialty, bar being lucky and leadership.

Again, you don't get it. Nobody... NOTHING is better than than anything else in EVERY way. It's impossible.


*Sigh* I'm saying compared to your average marine. A spartan is better in pretty much every way.

If you are saying they aren't better then the chief, you are WRONG.

Halsey herself "Not the strongest, fastest, or smartest."

Chief "Fred could come in first in every competition, he just doesn't want the attention."

Right there, Chief implies HEAVILY Fred was the best.

Edit: and where the heck did I imply there was only one key player? That's what the rabid "CHEIF IS BEST!" fans say. I know Chief didn't do it alone.


You said Chief wouldn't have done anything without Cortana.

Cortana wouldn't have done anything without Chief.

  • 04.25.2011 1:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: Apocalypse 1313
Grey.

Are you high? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT REPRESENTS HALO


It really depends on the person honestly. To the mass of people that don't read the books or get into the lore, then yeah. It's about a lone space-marine trying to save the galaxy from certain annihilation.

But to those that get into it? Could mean anything really. Of course, to some people that get into the lore, the above it still true to them.

The above statement of course, leads me into this nice little topic of the whole "hyper-lethal" SPARTAN. To those that don't follow the lore, Chief is the hyper-lethal Halsey talked about. It's pretty much you, the player. It's to make you feel special.

But for those that get into it? Well, that's the fun of it because we all have different opinions of who it could be. Some say Linda and I can totally see that. Not the choice I'd go with personally since I'd go with Fred. He was the second best at everything and well, came up with the plan to destroy a Covenant cruiser in atmosphere, which wiped out everything in the blast radius.

Of course, that's pretty much outdone by Linda's upside-down, one hand, one shot, one kills on those Banshee fliers. I'm just slightly biased. Hell, maybe there four hyper-lethal S-IIs in the mix and they were the squad leaders (John, Fred, Kurt and Jerome). Unlikely but still. XD

And my opinion on Sierra-117? He's not bad. Saved humanity's collective ass that's for damn sure. The best though? As pointed out, he was average. The one thing he had on his side was luck. Put any other SPARTAN in his shoes and you might have seen the same results. However they achieved those results though would have been different.

  • 04.25.2011 1:42 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

You know, saying that the main focus of Halo are the rings and the Chief is really ignorant in my opinion. To me, the series as a whole is a series of anecdotes and lessons, it's about the morality (or lack of) in the military (use children as weapons), Religious Zealosy and intolerance (The covenant and their idea of whipping out humanity due to their blind faith) also the difference between a life wasted and I life spent.

I'm probably Not making any sense but it's 3:51 here so bear with me.

[Edited on 04.25.2011 1:53 AM PDT]

  • 04.25.2011 1:53 AM PDT

"What do you hear?"
"Nothing but the rain."
"Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."
"Boom, boom, boom!"

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
I'm probably Not making any sense but it's 3:51 here so bear with me.


Nah, you made perfect sense.

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
To me, the series as a whole is a series of anecdotes and lessons, it's about the morality (or lack of) in the military (use children as weapons), Religious Zealosy and intolerance (The covenant and their idea of whipping out humanity due to their blind faith) also the difference between a life wasted and I life spent.


But pretty much this. It could mean different things to different people and this is a nice example.

  • 04.25.2011 1:59 AM PDT

Spartans never die... they just revert to last checkpoint.


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
You know, saying that the main focus of Halo are the rings and the Chief is really ignorant in my opinion. To me, the series as a whole is a series of anecdotes and lessons, it's about the morality (or lack of) in the military (use children as weapons), Religious Zealosy and intolerance (The covenant and their idea of whipping out humanity due to their blind faith) also the difference between a life wasted and I life spent.

I'm probably Not making any sense but it's 3:51 here so bear with me.


It's a video game. Also note the title of the series: Halo

And the main protagonist of the trilogy

  • 04.25.2011 2:39 AM PDT

Spartans never die... they just revert to last checkpoint.

I read all the novels but Cryptum and Legends and IMO the only good ones were Onyx and FS. The others, especially FoR, took a steaming dump over canon.

  • 04.25.2011 2:42 AM PDT

Spartans never die... they just revert to last checkpoint.

Cmdr DaeFaron. Ive seen many of your posts and our opinions are almost always complete opposites. im surprised we both like halo.

[Edited on 04.25.2011 2:44 AM PDT]

  • 04.25.2011 2:44 AM PDT
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In my mind, he's the only spartan.

  • 04.25.2011 2:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: EDOET
In my mind, he's the only spartan.


It must be a very boring Halo universe for you then.

  • 04.25.2011 2:57 AM PDT