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Posted by: C0MIC RELIEF
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Posted by: manwith
Meh, the reason I have no doubt Chief not being the greatest is simply because he does not specialize anything outside of leadership. He also seems to kind of suck at hand to hand combat when comparing Fred, Will and Kelly.
That is true, leadership is his specialty and he has not true other specialties (unless you count luck as one). However, a lack of specialty in all but something intangible such as leadership does not mean that you can't be the best. Remember Chief always took top position in training exercises, that counts for a lot in my book.
On the issue of Chief and hand to hand combat. The encounter with the Elite on Reach Station Gamma is not entirely reliable since the original edition of TFoR claimed Reach was where Elites were first encountered, which has since been retconned, so it would not really be Chief's first encounter with one, and thus he would not be having the "first encounter difficulty" depicted in TFoR. And the only other encounter that Chief has with an Elite (that I remember) is in First Strike on the Ascendant Justice just after he's gone through several days of almost non-stop fighting and he's been wounded quite a bit (I think Halsey even says that it's a wonder he was still standing when she examines him later on the AJ/Gettysburg) plus that Elite had an energy sword and it was close quarters in a rather narrow space. I don't think that any other Spartan would have fared all that better if they were under the same circumstances. And the only other account (that I remember) of Chief really going toe to toe with an enemy in CQB combat is when he encounters Brutes for the first time on the Unyielding Heirophant, and again, it's his first time, he's not going to be an expert in fighting Brutes.
Agreed.
Also, that lone elite on the bridge would most likely be a high ranking member of the covenant (Spec Ops, Shipmaster, etc).
yeah, and pretty much everybody agrees that any Spartan would have a tougher time with the higher ranking Elites such as Zealots etc. I don't know where Spec Ops Elites would fit though :/