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Subject: What was the actual reason for pulling the plug on this?

"You are the last of your kind: bred for combat, built for war. You're the master of any weapon, pilot of any vehicle, and fear no enemy"

It was the #1 played Xbox original? Why take it down. All of the Call of Duty's are still up?

  • 04.25.2011 3:27 PM PDT

its because it costs money to run the servers and not enough people were buying it and it had a low population.

  • 04.25.2011 3:39 PM PDT

Halo 2 for Life!

No good reason was given. They did say that it restricted their ability to advance XBL or something very silly like this.

  • 04.25.2011 3:39 PM PDT

I like Call of Duty and Gears of War, AND Halo. Why must everyone else like only one or the other?


Posted by: totallymassive
No good reason was given. They did say that it restricted their ability to advance XBL or something very silly like this.


Indeed. MS's claim was that keeping LIVE online for the original xbox prevented them from making certain improvements to LIVE for the 360. (The example that was given constantly was the 100 limit on the friends list)

  • 04.25.2011 4:07 PM PDT

Posted by: HiredN00bs
Arrogant hyperbolic exclamations of woe? Seems like a normal day for Halo/Bungie.net.

Halo 2 had many Playlists left with 0 active players. The population was almost non-existant and MS didn't want to spend any more money for about 10k players (at most, over the course of an entire week).

Halo 2 was the only game played but its population was too friggin low and MS hates profit lo$$.

  • 04.25.2011 4:30 PM PDT

Halo 2 for Life!

I was in there playing and I can say your not telling the truth.

Posted by: Method Man NYC
Halo 2 had many Playlists left with 0 active players. The population was almost non-existant and MS didn't want to spend any more money for about 10k players (at most, over the course of an entire week).

Halo 2 was the only game played but its population was too friggin low and MS hates profit lo$$.

  • 04.25.2011 4:33 PM PDT
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Their excuse was that it was holding back Xbox LIVE for 360. However, no improvements have been made that would have been changed in any way had the original Xbox LIVE still been up.

The real reason, the one they don't want to tell people, is because it was costing them more money than it was making for them.

  • 04.25.2011 5:05 PM PDT

Halo 2 for Life!

BOB is back lol.

I think Removing H2 lost them money actually.

Having h2 online helped H3 sales I'm pretty sure.

It keeps the base very strong to hold previous games in place on XBL. When they removed H2 they lost alot of support for Halo games and they didn't factor this in correctly they saw it much more differently.


I think your right that they thought that it was losing them money and it was a distraction from Hreach sales but that is compeletly incorrect.... to me but to them it was probably what drove their ways.

  • 04.25.2011 5:17 PM PDT

Posted by: BOB570
Their excuse was that it was holding back Xbox LIVE for 360. However, no improvements have been made that would have been changed in any way had the original Xbox LIVE still been up.

The real reason, the one they don't want to tell people, is because it was costing them more money than it was making for them.
Yeah, that's the major reason but there's another reason that most don't think about. First H3 and then Reach was always being compared to the way H2 used to be. When MS took over they got tired of hearing the comparisons and they were tired of the whole xbox 1 genre'. Xbox 1 titles were not making them money and they could not match what H2 had given the Halo fans so better to eliminate the problem.

  • 04.25.2011 5:20 PM PDT

Posted by: HiredN00bs
Arrogant hyperbolic exclamations of woe? Seems like a normal day for Halo/Bungie.net.

Posted by: totallymassive
Having h2 online helped H3 sales I'm pretty sure.


nope.avi

As for pre-H3 that's true but ever since 2009 when H2 started being the only original Xbox game playable online it was useless.

  • 04.25.2011 5:51 PM PDT
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Main thing that aggravates me about this situation is Call of Duty Classic. Why is it there when Halo 2 had so much of a higher population? I guess it makes sense due to the popularity of CoD franchise as of today, but, it would only make sense to do the same for Halo 2...

  • 04.25.2011 6:01 PM PDT

Black Ops 2 I run two accounts warmup only at 1.97kdr...real is at 3.77. i'm in master division 4 league play. pm 4 clan inv...must have 2.5 kdr or better


Posted by: totallymassive
I was in there playing and I can say your not telling the truth.

Posted by: Method Man NYC
Halo 2 had many Playlists left with 0 active players. The population was almost non-existant and MS didn't want to spend any more money for about 10k players (at most, over the course of an entire week).

Halo 2 was the only game played but its population was too friggin low and MS hates profit lo$$.


No dude I remember coming on the forums in 2010 and reading Halo 3 and Halo 2 stats would alternate. Halo 2 always had like 400-1,200 people online. I would say 10k is right.

  • 04.25.2011 6:22 PM PDT

Black Ops 2 I run two accounts warmup only at 1.97kdr...real is at 3.77. i'm in master division 4 league play. pm 4 clan inv...must have 2.5 kdr or better


Posted by: Dr Syx
Main thing that aggravates me about this situation is Call of Duty Classic. Why is it there when Halo 2 had so much of a higher population? I guess it makes sense due to the popularity of CoD franchise as of today, but, it would only make sense to do the same for Halo 2...


call of duty classic is fail. try and find a match. it's not rated that well considering it's place in gaming history.

  • 04.25.2011 6:23 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
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50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


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Posted by: Dr Syx
Main thing that aggravates me about this situation is Call of Duty Classic. Why is it there when Halo 2 had so much of a higher population? I guess it makes sense due to the popularity of CoD franchise as of today, but, it would only make sense to do the same for Halo 2...


call of duty classic is fail. try and find a match. it's not rated that well considering it's place in gaming history.


The orginal PC version still has players though, it uses servers so you can still hop into a game.

  • 04.25.2011 6:26 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: Method Man NYC
Halo 2 had many Playlists left with 0 active players. The population was almost non-existant and MS didn't want to spend any more money for about 10k players (at most, over the course of an entire week).

Halo 2 was the only game played but its population was too friggin low and MS hates profit lo$$.


This. And all the other xbox original games either had 0 people on or were almost dead.


Posted by: totallymassive
BOB is back lol.

I think Removing H2 lost them money actually.

Having h2 online helped H3 sales I'm pretty sure.



AHAHAHHAHA!!!!

I thought it was the other way around, H3 players would buy H2 to be like "Oh this is H2". I've seen the reverse, but NEVER have I seen older games online helping newer game sales. Usually the newer games kill off the older online games on consoles until they get really old to the point where the only people left are kids who picked it up used for $10 at gamestop and nostalgia freaks.

  • 04.25.2011 6:35 PM PDT

Posted by: JacobGRocks

Posted by: Method Man NYC
Halo 2 had many Playlists left with 0 active players. The population was almost non-existant and MS didn't want to spend any more money for about 10k players (at most, over the course of an entire week).

Halo 2 was the only game played but its population was too friggin low and MS hates profit lo$$.


This. And all the other xbox original games either had 0 people on or were almost dead.


Posted by: totallymassive
BOB is back lol.

I think Removing H2 lost them money actually.

Having h2 online helped H3 sales I'm pretty sure.



AHAHAHHAHA!!!!

I thought it was the other way around, H3 players would buy H2 to be like "Oh this is H2". I've seen the reverse, but NEVER have I seen older games online helping newer game sales. Usually the newer games kill off the older online games on consoles until they get really old to the point where the only people left are kids who picked it up used for $10 at gamestop and nostalgia freaks.
People bought H3 because they loved H2 Live so much. When H3 didn't live up to Halo expectations people put faith that Reach would bring back the Halo spirit but it didn't.

So yes, H2 helped in the initial sales of H3 and Reach. The problem was that any Halo game after H2 was compared to what H2 had been in it's glory days. In the long run it was not good for business to keep H2 around economically and the looming presence of what the newer games should have been like was an Albatross first around Bungie and then MS. MS simply cut the head off the beast.

  • 04.25.2011 7:40 PM PDT
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I don't know why people say the POP was 0. I played it everyday until the unplug.

  • 04.25.2011 8:57 PM PDT

Posted by: HiredN00bs
Arrogant hyperbolic exclamations of woe? Seems like a normal day for Halo/Bungie.net.

Posted by: SwiftXen
I don't know why people say the POP was 0. I played it everyday until the unplug.


I guess you played everyday when the unplug was announced lol.

  • 04.26.2011 3:53 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: Method Man NYC
Posted by: SwiftXen
I don't know why people say the POP was 0. I played it everyday until the unplug.


I guess you played everyday when the unplug was announced lol.

He isn't linking his tag. As for me, I had several xbox originals I played a lot, like Battlefront II (which was dying) and Halo 2, which was also dying. If you think it's hard to find a game in some h3 playlists, h2 was so dead that when you would matchmake in some, it didn't even start searching, it would just start a new one, with only 2-3 playlists with people in them and "Which playlist do people play" threads pre-shutdown.

  • 04.26.2011 5:46 AM PDT

Never give up, never surrender!

I'm just wondering, What if they had given the option of funding the server, or whatever they turned off, to the remaining population of Halo 2 players.

I mean, Halo 2 has had the most dedicated and loyal community of any game I've ever seen.

  • 04.26.2011 6:50 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: Spartan3PC
I'm just wondering, What if they had given the option of funding the server, or whatever they turned off, to the remaining population of Halo 2 players.

I mean, Halo 2 has had the most dedicated and loyal community of any game I've ever seen.


LOL!

H2 was just a bunch of kids who either bought it for $15 used at GameStop or didn't have the money for a used 360 at the time of the shutdown announcement. Don't be fooled.

  • 04.26.2011 7:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan3PC
I'm just wondering, What if they had given the option of funding the server, or whatever they turned off, to the remaining population of Halo 2 players.

I mean, Halo 2 has had the most dedicated and loyal community of any game I've ever seen.




LOL!

H2 was just a bunch of kids who either bought it for $15 used at GameStop or didn't have the money for a used 360 at the time of the shutdown announcement. Don't be fooled.


Your the one who is fooled everyone on Halo 2 when I went on was dedicated to the game to the end.

  • 04.26.2011 7:30 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

*checks service record*

Yep, I see a lot of time jumps and a lot of games logged on the last 2 games. Looks like a BNET trend.

  • 04.26.2011 7:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: SHOCKER1000
Your the one who is fooled everyone on Halo 2 when I went on was dedicated to the game to the end.

You have 887 Halo 2 games, that's not dedication. Now compare that to your Halo 3 games.

  • 04.26.2011 8:15 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


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Posted by: SHOCKER1000
Your the one who is fooled everyone on Halo 2 when I went on was dedicated to the game to the end.

You have 887 Halo 2 games, that's not dedication. Now compare that to your Halo 3 games.

H2 fans like to pretend they are dedicated.

  • 04.26.2011 8:36 AM PDT

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