- PLUT0NIUM 235
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- Honorable Member
with regards to the Ancient technologies, some weird assumptions are being made. for one the Ori (basically the Ancients, but religious nut-job versions) have 'super-gates' which can transport enormous warships between galaxies, the Ancients had the know how to do this, not a single doubt about that. hell that descended Ancient, Orin or something made a small Stargate in Carters basement, that worked...! the reason for me why they didn't build massive gates for ships was their hyper-drive technology was so advanced they didn't need to waste all that time and energy (the Ori version needed a black hole to power it!) on transporting something that can get there anyway.
also light weapons DO NOT penetrate Ancient shields, nothing does! not energy weapons, not matter, not heat, nothing at all, look at the 'Orion' which survived sitting in the middle of a super-volcano with hugely depleted energy reserves and hugely depleted shields, it survived a volcanic eruption that rendered the planet uninhabitable! also proves matter cannot pass through the shield, regardless of its kinetic energy or size, since magma is matter and did not penetrate the shield, neither do people (Atlantis Gate Shield) or weapons fire, or Wraith darts. Atlantis' shield holds in the atmosphere during faster than light travel, so not even air can pass through, the same shield kept billions and billions of tons of water out of the city for thousands and thousands of years. the same shield technology holds the atmosphere in the damaged sections of Destiny and that is seriously out-dated technology.
same thing applies to their personal energy shields, like the one Rodney used, wasn't damaged or penetrated by bullets, feet, falling from a balcony, hell not even coffee penetrated it! they have technology that can effectively bring someone back from the dead, even badly damaged bodies. they have the 'stones' which sends your conciousness across a massive distance with no obvious lag or time delay, their technology has insane staying power, Destiny pre-dates the Forerunner as a species and it is still operational! developed temporal technologies that let them travel through time, phase technologies that let them make entire planets! disappear and be impossible to influence from the normal universe, so that is the Ancient anti-halo device, simple phase their planets/ships.
building a Halo would be doable for the Ancients, sure even building something like a shield world would be possible, but they never had the reason to so never did, they never had any grand astro-engineering like the Forerunner but are more than capable of it on a technological level, they've also made several doomsday weapons like the Dakara weapon, the Attero device, imagine Zero Point modules used as weapons (they destroy entire solar systems!), their technology only works with a certain gene as well and actually reacts to the presence of the gene, so walk into a room with the ATA gene and stuff starts turning on, etc. another few cool pieces of Ancient technology, what about the Quantum Mirror which is a doorway into other universes, or the Harmonic Resonance Wall which was completely solid, rock solid until exposed to a certain resonance frequency, which allowed people to walk through a solid wall.
for knowledge and technology, the Ancients all the way, especially had they not been 'hampered' by the dodgy writing of Stargate, another thing worth considering, the Ancients are an honourable and just race, they aren't warlike in the slightest, they were more regarded as a race of scientists, constantly trying to better themselves, hence why they aren't so good at war, their technology wasn't at fault, it was them that lost the war!