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I have calculated the halos to be about 333km across. It apears the halos wall-to-wall to be 1/30th of the diameter of the halo. It does take some firepower to anahilate that ring.
As for the pillar of autumn destroying halo, that big explosion caused by those reactors caused a shockwave. That shockwave went against the motion of the rotating halo. It made it shatter.
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  • 04.29.2011 7:50 PM PDT

I'm struggling to think of something to put here...

I'm gonna go with Forerunners because I have no idea who or what the other two are.

  • 04.29.2011 8:45 PM PDT

That's a Flooded High Charity in the backgrund, not Janjur Qom.

Still though, it means that the asteroid impact that hit Installation 06 that I said might be a gigatonnage impact was indeed a gigatonnage impact.

Also, using a calculator I found on the Internet, I have learned the Covenant Assault Carrier's plasma turret force is exactley *puts on glasses*

202.1 gigatons of power. It would seem that Star Wars calculation was about as far out into left field as possible (as it is, a 20 meter asteroid only takes 59.9 kilotons to vaporize, not a terraton). So my original guestimates were way off needless to say. Regardless, if any one of the Assault Carrier's plasma cannons hit a Reaper, the Reaper would be obliterated.

here's the calculator.

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Oh ok.. Well the planet must have of looked pretty bad. They did turn continents upside down.
Asside from the main thread. It says that the executor's shields have a power output of Peak (shields): 3,8 × 10'26. How many tons of power would you need to destroy that?

  • 04.29.2011 9:36 PM PDT

You can't use weapons from Star Wars to figure out yeild from a Covenant Weapon. The Universe tech seems vastly different.

Also isn't 6 the ring that was speculated to have a flood infestation, those might not be craters at all. Check the wiki. And also its 16000km in diameter, thats what the wiki says, and it matches what i got from the book.

ALSO the Reapers wouldn't be phased by the firing of a Halo. The only organic part of them is a genetic paste. A Halo targets advanced, developed brains or brain like structures. Being that the paste is so simple,I doubt the Reaper would even feel it.

  • 04.30.2011 6:09 AM PDT


Posted by: Black Hole 000
You can't use weapons from Star Wars to figure out yeild from a Covenant Weapon. The Universe tech seems vastly different.

Also isn't 6 the ring that was speculated to have a flood infestation, those might not be craters at all. Check the wiki. And also its 16000km in diameter, thats what the wiki says, and it matches what i got from the book.

ALSO the Reapers wouldn't be phased by the firing of a Halo. The only organic part of them is a genetic paste. A Halo targets advanced, developed brains or brain like structures. Being that the paste is so simple,I doubt the Reaper would even feel it.


Yeah I know; I used that calculation as a base for estimating the Assault Carrier. As it were, that guy knew about as much on impact calculations as I do.

And the reason I know thats not the Prophet home is because that same picture appears in the Besterium, which says the Prophet homeworld (possibly Qom's sister planet) was obliterated by a supernova. When a plnet gets hit by a supernova, nothing's usually left. At all.

Here's what the Wiki says on 06

"A more comprehensive readout was later observed on the Ark, showing the inner section of the ring to be covered in what appears to be barren rock during the Battle of the Ark by Thel 'Vadam, SPARTAN-117 and the High Prophet of Truth. It is possible that the surface is like Earth's moon, and the grayish surface texture appears to be cratered rock. It once again displayed that Installation 06 was on standby mode, waiting to receive the signal to fire.[2] However, SPARTAN-117 deactivated the Installation, and the others in the Halo Array before they could be fired."

Followed by the trivia sections, the only item of which says that it has a moon-like surface.

And while it is true that Halo's primary target is complex life, the reason I said the Reapers would be killed is because, thus far, every indication we have about how a Halo blast operates states the blast vaporizes organic compounds.

Such examples include 1) No Forerunner or Flood remains since the last war. 2) No traces of life on the planet Charuum Hakor. 3) Halo Origins, where Flood biomass got blown away. And so on.

It would have to vaporize biological components because the Flood can still use non-sentient--or dead--biomass for their war machine. They'd likely break it all back down for it to later be reformed into a Pure Form. Nuking all life in the galaxy without vaporizing it would just make it so victims of the Flood can't run.

And we already know Gravemind can survive it, so the Flood would still have some control.

  • 04.30.2011 8:23 AM PDT

The Halo's only target complex organic matter, specifically brains. Becuase the flood need complex life to survive. It doesn't kill the flood because they, like the Reapers, are made up of degenerated organic material, nothing complex enough to be effected. The only difference is that the organic material in a Reaper is interlaced with metal-like materials. The Halo was designed to starve the flood.

And why is this arguement even brought up, the Halo's, even if they did kill the Reapers, would also kill all the Forerunners, so the point is moot

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Posted by: Black Hole 000
The Halo's only target complex organic matter, specifically brains. Becuase the flood need complex life to survive. It doesn't kill the flood because they, like the Reapers, are made up of degenerated organic material, nothing complex enough to be effected. The only difference is that the organic material in a Reaper is interlaced with metal-like materials. The Halo was designed to starve the flood.

And why is this arguement even brought up, the Halo's, even if they did kill the Reapers, would also kill all the Forerunners, so the point is moot


Actually they do,if you watched Halo legends origins,you see the Halo effect wiping out the flood.However it's difficult to find any Halo legends videos on youtube,because most of them are deleted.

Then in the terminals it was said that when the Halo effect stroke,all ships with biologicals went adrift.

Not really,the Forerunners can hide in shield worlds.

  • 04.30.2011 9:34 AM PDT


Posted by: Black Hole 000
The Halo's only target complex organic matter, specifically brains. Becuase the flood need complex life to survive. It doesn't kill the flood because they, like the Reapers, are made up of degenerated organic material, nothing complex enough to be effected. The only difference is that the organic material in a Reaper is interlaced with metal-like materials. The Halo was designed to starve the flood.

And why is this arguement even brought up, the Halo's, even if they did kill the Reapers, would also kill all the Forerunners, so the point is moot


While you got me there on the complex life thing, the Forerunners can use Halo as a planetary grenade. In other words, they can fire it only at one planet, or solar system. It isn't a galaxy only weapon.

Plus its heavily implied in Cryptum that standing on the Ring makes you immune to its effects.

  • 04.30.2011 9:39 AM PDT

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  • 04.30.2011 9:49 AM PDT

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Actually... The original halos were 30000km So if they're built the same way, the halos that the four forerunner cruiser's destroyed are 1000km from wall to wall.
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  • 04.30.2011 1:29 PM PDT

Remember Elk

The ancients became immortal and created a machine race that was nearly unbeatable.
They Created the stargates that made it possible to travel lightyears in seconds and a device that disabled the FTL travel of their enemies.
And that thing on dakara that could wipe out all life in a galaxy.

  • 04.30.2011 1:45 PM PDT

biggest problem adding the Ancients into this argument is the fact that Stargate writers are pretty inconsistent, and screwed the Ancients over from day one, giving them insane technology in one instance but then quite primitive technology in others. a small example, the Stargate system in the Milky Way is well over a million years old and it still works without any trouble, near instant travel between two points of varying distance, the power supply in the dial-home device is still working after all that time! that is very very very advanced technology, well beyond anything in Halo or Mass Effect by a healthy margin. no ship version of the Stargate is seen, which is stupid to be honest on the writers part, transportation of ships from one side of the galaxy to the other without using their own power reserves sounds great?

another incredible Ancient technology, their shielding. we have seen time and time again they are impossible to penetrate, no other word for it, the shield of Atlantis survived never ending orbital bombardment for a hundred years, one hundred years of constant bombardment without failing once, that is incredible! the Ori use 'Ancient' shields as well and one of their ships survives being rammed full speed by a Ha'tak, with no damage or shield failure. Anubis, and his super-ship used 'primitive' Ancient shielding and that survived an engagement with around 30 Ha'tak (which can apparently level entire cities from orbit) with no damage and again no shield failure.

more incredible technology, the tiny personal energy shield that Rodney activated by accident, which made him impervious to everything, even drinking! he was shot, thrown from balconies, nothing penetrated the shield, imagine foot soldiers with those, also only work for people with the Ancient Technology Activation gene, so only Ancients can use them, like all of their technology. their double A batteries harness zero point energy from effectively 'universes' and can last millions of years and still function correctly, also can destroy entire star systems if they go bad! Puddle Jumpers (Gate-ships) have a cloak that is totally undetectable, both to sensors and visually, no distortion like Covenant cloaking, the cloak doesn't seem to require much power either.

the technology level possessed by the Ancients is superior even to the Forerunner, also believe they are capable of matter replication using their transportation technology, since we never see or hear anything about mining for raw materials or anything. I think the Precursors are like Halo Ancients, beings that have shed their corporeal existence leaving behind timeless relics, the Stargate for example, even hundreds of thousands of years after their 'demise' people still struggle to understand! also the writers were stupid, based on Ancient technology, even with their 'backward' military thinking how could they have possibly lost to the Wraith, with their impossible shields, weapons that ignore armour/shields alike and faster than light travel that lets them travel the void between galaxies in no time at all, also personal energy shields that simply prevent anything from touching the occupant, how does a Wraith feed on a shielded Ancient when not even coffee can pass through?

also, Reapers get owned by both Ancients and Forerunner, get over it!

  • 04.30.2011 1:46 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 100
Actually... The original halos were 30000km So if they're built the same way, the halos that the four forerunner cruiser's destroyed are 1000km from wall to wall.
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So the weapons are even stronger then originall thought.

Either way, Ancients still win.

Once Cryptum's 2 and 3 are released, we'll have to compare the Xeelee and Precursors.

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Firepower wise, The Necrons are undefeatable.

For starters, they are literally nothing more than a soul (if can be even called that) in a metal skeleton. They where tricked into this form by The Star Gods who promised them immortality and revenge on the Old Ones (Essentially Forerunners) . To combat the Necrons, the Old Ones created the Eldar and the Orks.
The Star Gods, or C'tan, waged a galactic war against the Old Ones while simultaneously harvesting every single living species in the galaxy. The mass genocide was commanded by the C'tan's who feasted on the souls of every species in the galaxy.
The only reason the war ended was because the Old Ones lacked the manpower to continue fighting the Necrons and also because of the arrival of the Enslavers who proceeded to kill everything the Necrons had not reached.

Each Necron is nearly indestructible, being able to reassemble themselves even after being shot to little more then a puddle of metal. It is also theorized that not a single Necron has been destroyed because their consciousness was reloaded into the Tomb and a new body was created for them.
This gives Necrons much more staying power than Forerunners and Reapers because if they shot a necron it would repair itself or get destroyed before returning in a brand new body.

Gauss weapons are magnetic based and destroy targets by breaking the target into it's component molecules and attracting it backwards towards the barrel at high speeds. This effectively bypasses shields and barriers because nothing is coming at the target, the target is being ripped apart beneath the shield.
At best the shield might slow down the effect or temporarily stop it.

The Necron Fleet is also vastly superior, with the shipboard weapons functioning on the same principles as the ground troops, though much stronger. The Necron ships are also capable of piercing Imperial Void Shields with ease.
The only way to beat a Necron fleet is with superior numbers. It should also be noted that the Imperium's ships lose almost every battle even though their technology is 30000 years ahead of the council and UNSC.
The ships are also equipped with an Inertialess Drive which allows the ship to travel unbound by mass and accelerate instantly and infinitely. This is similar to the Reaper's Mass Relays and could ,theoretically, be used to transform a Necron ship into a giant bullet.

Tell me how the Reaper/Forerunners could beat that.

  • 04.30.2011 3:24 PM PDT


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Firepower wise, The Necrons are undefeatable.

For starters, they are literally nothing more than a soul (if can be even called that) in a metal skeleton. They where tricked into this form by The Star Gods who promised them immortality and revenge on the Old Ones (Essentially Forerunners) . To combat the Necrons, the Old Ones created the Eldar and the Orks.
The Star Gods, or C'tan, waged a galactic war against the Old Ones while simultaneously harvesting every single living species in the galaxy. The mass genocide was commanded by the C'tan's who feasted on the souls of every species in the galaxy.
The only reason the war ended was because the Old Ones lacked the manpower to continue fighting the Necrons and also because of the arrival of the Enslavers who proceeded to kill everything the Necrons had not reached.

Each Necron is nearly indestructible, being able to reassemble themselves even after being shot to little more then a puddle of metal. It is also theorized that not a single Necron has been destroyed because their consciousness was reloaded into the Tomb and a new body was created for them.
This gives Necrons much more staying power than Forerunners and Reapers because if they shot a necron it would repair itself or get destroyed before returning in a brand new body.

Gauss weapons are magnetic based and destroy targets by breaking the target into it's component molecules and attracting it backwards towards the barrel at high speeds. This effectively bypasses shields and barriers because nothing is coming at the target, the target is being ripped apart beneath the shield.
At best the shield might slow down the effect or temporarily stop it.

The Necron Fleet is also vastly superior, with the shipboard weapons functioning on the same principles as the ground troops, though much stronger. The Necron ships are also capable of piercing Imperial Void Shields with ease.
The only way to beat a Necron fleet is with superior numbers. It should also be noted that the Imperium's ships lose almost every battle even though their technology is 30000 years ahead of the council and UNSC.
The ships are also equipped with an Inertialess Drive which allows the ship to travel unbound by mass and accelerate instantly and infinitely. This is similar to the Reaper's Mass Relays and could ,theoretically, be used to transform a Necron ship into a giant bullet.

Tell me how the Reaper/Forerunners could beat that.


Oddly enough, Cryptum implies the possibility Halo is a soul killer (or consciouss killer, but same thing).

I say this because Halo is the only weapon in the universe that can damage Precursor Neural Material, which is based on the concept the consciouss mind and the universe are inextricably linked (or is, at least, the only known Neural weapon in existance since the Precursors). "The universe lives, but not as we do." Halo, thus, severs the link between the mind and the universe. A soul killer.

Theoretically then, Necrons would be cannon fodder for Halo (which, again I remind you, can indeed be used as other things then a galaxy killer; can be scaled down to planet or solar system weapons).

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Posted by: Xd00999
Firepower wise, The Necrons are undefeatable.

For starters, they are literally nothing more than a soul (if can be even called that) in a metal skeleton. They where tricked into this form by The Star Gods who promised them immortality and revenge on the Old Ones (Essentially Forerunners) . To combat the Necrons, the Old Ones created the Eldar and the Orks.
The Star Gods, or C'tan, waged a galactic war against the Old Ones while simultaneously harvesting every single living species in the galaxy. The mass genocide was commanded by the C'tan's who feasted on the souls of every species in the galaxy.
The only reason the war ended was because the Old Ones lacked the manpower to continue fighting the Necrons and also because of the arrival of the Enslavers who proceeded to kill everything the Necrons had not reached.

Each Necron is nearly indestructible, being able to reassemble themselves even after being shot to little more then a puddle of metal. It is also theorized that not a single Necron has been destroyed because their consciousness was reloaded into the Tomb and a new body was created for them.
This gives Necrons much more staying power than Forerunners and Reapers because if they shot a necron it would repair itself or get destroyed before returning in a brand new body.

Gauss weapons are magnetic based and destroy targets by breaking the target into it's component molecules and attracting it backwards towards the barrel at high speeds. This effectively bypasses shields and barriers because nothing is coming at the target, the target is being ripped apart beneath the shield.
At best the shield might slow down the effect or temporarily stop it.

The Necron Fleet is also vastly superior, with the shipboard weapons functioning on the same principles as the ground troops, though much stronger. The Necron ships are also capable of piercing Imperial Void Shields with ease.
The only way to beat a Necron fleet is with superior numbers. It should also be noted that the Imperium's ships lose almost every battle even though their technology is 30000 years ahead of the council and UNSC.
The ships are also equipped with an Inertialess Drive which allows the ship to travel unbound by mass and accelerate instantly and infinitely. This is similar to the Reaper's Mass Relays and could ,theoretically, be used to transform a Necron ship into a giant bullet.

Tell me how the Reaper/Forerunners could beat that.


Oddly enough, Cryptum implies the possibility Halo is a soul killer (or consciouss killer, but same thing).

I say this because Halo is the only weapon in the universe that can damage Precursor Neural Material, which is based on the concept the consciouss mind and the universe are inextricably linked (or is, at least, the only known Neural weapon in existance since the Precursors). "The universe lives, but not as we do." Halo, thus, severs the link between the mind and the universe. A soul killer.

Theoretically then, Necrons would be cannon fodder for Halo (which, again I remind you, can indeed be used as other things then a galaxy killer; can be scaled down to planet or solar system weapons).
While Halo might be a soul killer, I am confident in the fact that it would not injure the Necrons.

Because the Halos are designed to break neural pathways so the flood cannot control the bodys, the Necrons would be unaffected because the are made of necrodermis and therefore have no nerves to be destroyed.

Also it may have been incorrect to lable the Necrons consiusness as a soul: the warp is where the soul resides in the 40k universe and the C'tan hate it to such an extent they cut themselves off from the warp totally. Not a single Necron or C'tan posses something that could be recognized as a soul.

As a matter of fact, if the Halos are soul killers then the Necrons might even encourage the Forerunners to use them. The Necrons goal (aside from killing everything) is to cut off reality from the warp entirely which, as an expected bonus, kills everything with a soul. To this end, they created the Pariah gene and the Cadian Pylons which are shown to not only resist the warp but consume warp based powers like those of psykers.

  • 04.30.2011 4:39 PM PDT

I think we all know that the OP forgot two answers:

D)The Precursors
E)Chuck Norris

But in all seriousness, the precursors would win. They are the ones who basically created most of the things in the bungie milky way galaxy and they gave the forerunners the "guardianship" of the galaxy, which the forerunners then gave to humanity. The precursors were the only Tier 0 civilization and they could easily build and destroy worlds. So they win. Unless Chuck Norris roundhouse kicked them, which would result in a ...big bang... I'm pretty sure I just discovered how the universe was created.

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I think we all know that the OP forgot two answers:

D)The Precursors
E)Chuck Norris

But in all seriousness, the precursors would win. They are the ones who basically created most of the things in the bungie milky way galaxy and they gave the forerunners the "guardianship" of the galaxy, which the forerunners then gave to humanity. The precursors were the only Tier 0 civilization and they could easily build and destroy worlds. So they win. Unless Chuck Norris roundhouse kicked them, which would result in a ...big bang... I'm pretty sure I just discovered how the universe was created.
We don't know enough about the Prcusors to include them in the poll. Chuck Norris jokes stopped being funny a while ago.

  • 04.30.2011 7:29 PM PDT

as I've said before, I didn't include the Precursors because A: we know almost nothing about them and B: I already had one race from the Halo universe.

Chuck Norris was omitted because that is quite possibly the stupidest meme yet coughed up by the Internet.

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as I've said before, I didn't include the Precursors because A: we know almost nothing about them and B: I already had one race from the Halo universe.

Chuck Norris was omitted because that is quite possibly the stupidest meme yet coughed up by the Internet.

[virtual hug] Yay!

But we know that conventional [non neural] weapons can't affect precursor stuff. So it's pretty strong considering they can do a lot of stuff.

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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship

The Ancients. Why? Multi-galactic empire, for one.

Shield-ignoring easily mass produced projectiles for point number two.

ZPMs for point number three.

Finally, the Ascend-o-machine. One ascended Ancient can just handwave the Forerunners and Reapers away.

>.< Of course the final point is just way too overpowered.

EDIT: After reading through this thread, I have discovered a very important lesson...
Mass Effect fans have reached a new level of wank. Forerunners > Reapers. Ancients >> Reapers. Forerunners =/= Ancients, until an Ancient manages to ascend, in which case... well...

[Edited on 04.30.2011 8:55 PM PDT]

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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Reapers are being grossly under estimated. forerunners and covenant grossly over estimated and every one else who posts forgot that the OP also wants to add the Xel'Naga and the Ceph to the discussion.

  • 05.01.2011 12:06 AM PDT


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Reapers are being grossly under estimated. forerunners and covenant grossly over estimated and every one else who posts forgot that the OP also wants to add the Xel'Naga and the Ceph to the discussion.


This, I don't think this is the best place to put a versus thread. Almost everyone, including me, will say Forerunners because firstly, we're Halo fanboys, secondly most people on these forums don't know much about the Ancients or Reapers. In conclusion, we're all byest :)

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Posted by: Xd00999
Firepower wise, The Necrons are undefeatable.

For starters, they are literally nothing more than a soul (if can be even called that) in a metal skeleton. They where tricked into this form by The Star Gods who promised them immortality and revenge on the Old Ones (Essentially Forerunners) . To combat the Necrons, the Old Ones created the Eldar and the Orks.
The Star Gods, or C'tan, waged a galactic war against the Old Ones while simultaneously harvesting every single living species in the galaxy. The mass genocide was commanded by the C'tan's who feasted on the souls of every species in the galaxy.
The only reason the war ended was because the Old Ones lacked the manpower to continue fighting the Necrons and also because of the arrival of the Enslavers who proceeded to kill everything the Necrons had not reached.

Each Necron is nearly indestructible, being able to reassemble themselves even after being shot to little more then a puddle of metal. It is also theorized that not a single Necron has been destroyed because their consciousness was reloaded into the Tomb and a new body was created for them.
This gives Necrons much more staying power than Forerunners and Reapers because if they shot a necron it would repair itself or get destroyed before returning in a brand new body.

Gauss weapons are magnetic based and destroy targets by breaking the target into it's component molecules and attracting it backwards towards the barrel at high speeds. This effectively bypasses shields and barriers because nothing is coming at the target, the target is being ripped apart beneath the shield.
At best the shield might slow down the effect or temporarily stop it.

The Necron Fleet is also vastly superior, with the shipboard weapons functioning on the same principles as the ground troops, though much stronger. The Necron ships are also capable of piercing Imperial Void Shields with ease.
The only way to beat a Necron fleet is with superior numbers. It should also be noted that the Imperium's ships lose almost every battle even though their technology is 30000 years ahead of the council and UNSC.
The ships are also equipped with an Inertialess Drive which allows the ship to travel unbound by mass and accelerate instantly and infinitely. This is similar to the Reaper's Mass Relays and could ,theoretically, be used to transform a Necron ship into a giant bullet.

Tell me how the Reaper/Forerunners could beat that.


First of all,your gravatar???What the hell is that.


-Good point.But while the Necrons can keep making new bodys for their souls,Forerunners can keep making sentinels.The big sentinel from Halo legends was calculated to have a yield of 10 Gigaton.

http://forums.spacebattles.com/showpost.php?p=5758702&pos tcount=215

Scroll below in the half of the post.

Then we also have Onyx sentinels,a dozen of them alone have a combined strenght on low megaton.

Ghosts of Onyx pg 73:

*after a sentinel or dozen fire*

There was a dust storm about three kilometers into zone 67,a wall of sand,swirling smoke...and fire.

A distant mesa exploded-vaporized into a mushroom of glittering quartz dust,a hail of boulders and roiling flame.

He'd seen big explosions,but nothing like that though.

*unimportant text*

They wouldn't be testing a megaton of explosive force if we were so close."Ash countered.



Then we have the Forerunner war sphinxes,big mech suits:

pg95 Cryptum

We crossed the inner lake in minutes,a leisurely pace for a craft designed to drop from high orbit,sweep continents,and decimate cities.The only thing these old machines lacked,i thought,was a direct connection to slipspace.But i didn't know that fore sure.


Halo Cryptum pg 197:

The atmosphere below was a swirling soup of smoke and fire.Warrior craft and automated weapon systems were mostly to small to be visible,but i saw their effects-darting beams of needle light,glowing arcs cutting across continents,gigantic,stamblike divots punched into the crust and then lifted up,spun about,overturned.I had never seen anything like this-but the Didact had.



Seems like Necrons won't win against the Forerunner on ground,as they haven't this kind of firepower.Crust,continent busting weapons.

Wait how,do you know those gauss weapons can ingore shields.Cause imperial space marines have no energy shields on ground(correct me if i'm wrong) unless you talk about ship to ship weapons.

-Correction:That's how the imperiums try to beat the necros,with numbers just like Cole vs the covies.The problem is Forerunners aren't the imperiums.

The Forerunners will outnumber the necrons in space,they had trillions of vigilants in a single quarentaine fleet alone.In a single system,imagine the rest of their Navy.

They have starfighters,sentinels,flying mech suits,masssive ships,...Coupled that with their lassive factorys,they will easily outnumbered the Necrons.

As for the starship firepower of the Forerunners.It's far powerful then the autumns reactor explosion.

I'll explain in the next post.

  • 05.01.2011 2:38 AM PDT