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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

As the cruise's fusion drives went crutical,a compact sun blossomed on the surface of Halo.It's thermonuclear sphere carved a five kilometer crater into the superdense ring material and sent powerful pressure waves rippling throughout the structure.Both up and down spin of the explosion,the fireball flattened and sterilized the surface terrain.Within moments,the yellow-white core had consumed all of the available fuel,collapsed upon itself,and winked out.
Still spinnig,but unable to withstand the forces exerted on this weak ponit,the ring structure slowly tore itself apart.Huge chucks of debris tumbled end over end out into space,as a five-hundred-kilometer long sections of the ring's world hull sliced through an even longer curve of brilliantly engineered metal,earth and water and produced a cascade of eerily silent explosion.




Then you should watch the Halo CE cutscene where there was a fireball larger then the width of the ring.Roughly around 1000 km(assuming all rings are 30000 km,because of Cryptums retcon)

This is easily above 200 teraton,this didn't even destroyed the ring all it did was creating a 5 km crater into the dense material.The only reason why the ring was destroyed is because it ripped itself apart .

The Forerunner navy weapons destroyed a ring with sheer strenght alone,unlike the autumn relying on the spinnig ring and it's new weak point.

Halo cryptum pg 129
The first fortress's fighters moved in,surrounding one of the primed Halos and engaging its sentinels.Simultaneously,four cruisers sent white-hot beams to points around the targeted installation.Setninels intercepted some of those beams,partially deflecting them but also absorbing and sacrificing.Other beams struck home,carving canyonlike gouges across the mottled inner surface and blowing blue-white plumed of debris and plasma from the edges.The interior spokes began to shimmer and fade.The Halo could not hold together against this onslaught.It bent inward,wobbled.Fascinated,i watched as hge sections of the ring twisted like ribbon,giving away to destructive nodes of resonance,then rippled in sinus waves and separated with agonizing majesty.



Halo Cryptum pg 320

Even before it had emerged halfway,the fortress began to loose clouds of fighters-at this distancenthey resembled a puff of pollen from a flower-and fire it's weapons in a sequential radiance.The inner curve of the Halo,even protected by waves of hard light,could not stand up long to this assault from within it's own radius.
The fortress's commanders and ancillas must have known they were dooming themself as well as the Halo.The installation began a spectacular disintegrative sequence.The visible half of the ring bent in opposite directions,then shattered into five great arc.


If a single Forerunner ship can do that to a massive ring 30000 km in diameter,then what do you think it will do to the smaller Necron ships.

In the terminals,offensive bias used slipspace ruptures to destroy Flood ships.A slipspace rupture acts like a bit like a black hole as seen in Reach.

Correct me ,but aren't tombs on planets?If so then Forerunners can just turn the star into a supernova,destroying everything in system.

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i dont know what any of those are???

  • 05.01.2011 3:17 AM PDT


Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: HotshotI6
I think we all know that the OP forgot two answers:

D)The Precursors
E)Chuck Norris

But in all seriousness, the precursors would win. They are the ones who basically created most of the things in the bungie milky way galaxy and they gave the forerunners the "guardianship" of the galaxy, which the forerunners then gave to humanity. The precursors were the only Tier 0 civilization and they could easily build and destroy worlds. So they win. Unless Chuck Norris roundhouse kicked them, which would result in a ...big bang... I'm pretty sure I just discovered how the universe was created.
We don't know enough about the Prcusors to include them in the poll. Chuck Norris jokes stopped being funny a while ago.


What we do know of the Precursors is incredible however

1) Intergalactic travel (impressive even by sci-fi standards)

2) Invincible material that can be harmed only by Halo Neural Weapons (which basically makes any physical faction vs the Precursors fight a Precursor win. Gods would result in a paradox and thus a tie).

3) Immortality

3.1) Or, if not immortality, the ability to manipulate time (the Prisoner was several million years old, but was trapped in, obviously, a prison. He is either biologically immortal, or the Precursor prison was a place existing outside of time).

4) Can create life.

5) Almost definitely truly ascended to godhood (Great Journey)

6) Inter-universal travel (since the Forerunners could do it).

7) 15 meter behemoths (or 60 feet tall)

8) Likely, assuming the Prisoner=Gravemind theory is true, have advanced forms of telepathy and maybe telekenisis.

9) Outrageously intelligent.

And whatever else Cryptum's 2 and 3 have to say on it.

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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

The prisoner survived a freaking Halo ring ;)

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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

From what you have said it seems to meany all out war between the Necrons and Forerunners would eventually just devolve into a massive war of attrition.
The Forerunners are said to have massive numbers and near limitless resource capacity to sustain them.
The Necrons numbers are never definitively stated but they are known to be sufficient enough to wipe out a galaxy. It is also commonly stated that Necrons are only beginning to wake up and that the vast majority are still asleep in their tombs. The Necrons can also repair themselves after being completely destroyed: if a Necron body is destroyed and not repaired, at the end of a battle the whole force performs a mass teleport back to their tomb where they break down the destroyed bodies into necrodermis which is used to make more bodies. And yes, the Imperium does make use of shield, though only for important or high-ranking individuals.

Though you raise a valid point about the Forerunners simply bombarding Tomb Worlds into oblivion, you must realize that Necrons have buried their tombs deep within the planet. Despite what you may think, surprise is one of the Necrons most used and effective tactics. Because you don't know which worlds are Tomb Worlds you can't defend each against a full invasion force and you can't destroy every planet that may have some Necrons underneath.

Necrons have also proven that they can make mobile Tomb Worlds and it is possible that they have hundreds of these. The only World Engine seen required several fleets to destroy and was only defeated when a Space Marine Battle Barge rammed into it's shield before sending hundreds of space marines to fight through the World Engine on foot. Please note that the World Engine was surviving Exterminatus from multiple ships and that a Battle Barge is the largest, most powerful ship in the fleet yet it didn't even damage the World Engine when it rammed into it's shield.

Also, what is a gravatar? Was is a typo?

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Astronomy FTW

Tubas Represent!

The forerunners were very sophisticated, however they were forced to use a last resort weapon to beat their enemy(which was halo). But overall it would have to be the forerunners.

  • 05.01.2011 11:31 AM PDT


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Posted by: ferrrari
Wtf, the reapers would get raped by the covies. WHY THE HELL ARE THEY EVEN ON THERE???


That's a joke, right? Mass Effect's everyday technology would be equivalent to Tier 1 in Halo and the Reapers would be on the same level as the Precursors.
I hope that you are joking. They are not Tier 1, and most of their gizmos are flashy, not efficient.

The Reapers are only two kilometers long, and, judging by the Thanix Cannon's stats, are not on the sdame power level that the Covenant boasts. Hell, the UNSC MAC's outdo them.

  • 05.01.2011 11:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: That Atheist
Reapers are being grossly under estimated. forerunners and covenant grossly over estimated and every one else who posts forgot that the OP also wants to add the Xel'Naga and the Ceph to the discussion.
no the Reapers are being grossly superestimated even the guys at Factpile think The reapers are weaker than the Covenant and they -blam!- hate Halo

  • 05.01.2011 12:10 PM PDT

Wake me when the jews are gone.

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  • 05.01.2011 12:13 PM PDT

Posted by: HiredN00bs
Arrogant hyperbolic exclamations of woe? Seems like a normal day for Halo/Bungie.net.

1.) Biased poll is biased
2.) Forerunners win. Big tiems.
3.) Lol Reapers.

  • 05.01.2011 12:26 PM PDT

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I also like House Stark and winter, hurr.


Posted by: hotshot revan II
As the cruise's fusion drives went crutical,a compact sun blossomed on the surface of Halo.It's thermonuclear sphere carved a five kilometer crater into the superdense ring material and sent powerful pressure waves rippling throughout the structure.Both up and down spin of the explosion,the fireball flattened and sterilized the surface terrain.Within moments,the yellow-white core had consumed all of the available fuel,collapsed upon itself,and winked out.
Still spinnig,but unable to withstand the forces exerted on this weak ponit,the ring structure slowly tore itself apart.Huge chucks of debris tumbled end over end out into space,as a five-hundred-kilometer long sections of the ring's world hull sliced through an even longer curve of brilliantly engineered metal,earth and water and produced a cascade of eerily silent explosion.




Then you should watch the Halo CE cutscene where there was a fireball larger then the width of the ring.Roughly around 1000 km(assuming all rings are 30000 km,because of Cryptums retcon)

This is easily above 200 teraton,this didn't even destroyed the ring all it did was creating a 5 km crater into the dense material.The only reason why the ring was destroyed is because it ripped itself apart .

The Forerunner navy weapons destroyed a ring with sheer strenght alone,unlike the autumn relying on the spinnig ring and it's new weak point.

Halo cryptum pg 129
The first fortress's fighters moved in,surrounding one of the primed Halos and engaging its sentinels.Simultaneously,four cruisers sent white-hot beams to points around the targeted installation.Setninels intercepted some of those beams,partially deflecting them but also absorbing and sacrificing.Other beams struck home,carving canyonlike gouges across the mottled inner surface and blowing blue-white plumed of debris and plasma from the edges.The interior spokes began to shimmer and fade.The Halo could not hold together against this onslaught.It bent inward,wobbled.Fascinated,i watched as hge sections of the ring twisted like ribbon,giving away to destructive nodes of resonance,then rippled in sinus waves and separated with agonizing majesty.



Halo Cryptum pg 320

Even before it had emerged halfway,the fortress began to loose clouds of fighters-at this distancenthey resembled a puff of pollen from a flower-and fire it's weapons in a sequential radiance.The inner curve of the Halo,even protected by waves of hard light,could not stand up long to this assault from within it's own radius.
The fortress's commanders and ancillas must have known they were dooming themself as well as the Halo.The installation began a spectacular disintegrative sequence.The visible half of the ring bent in opposite directions,then shattered into five great arc.


If a single Forerunner ship can do that to a massive ring 30000 km in diameter,then what do you think it will do to the smaller Necron ships.


Necron ship's energy usage could kinda be demonstrated by one moment at nightbringer: Few necron ships were close to star, and the star just simply died. This happened because every second necron ship was close to the star,they took so large amounts of energy that star's life was decreased by hundred thousand years every second. Just letting you know, if youre interested.

Why arent people taking Fall of Damnos in mind? Oh yeah, you dont know about it.

Necron's ability to make other race's techonology useless would pretty much mean, that forerunner techonology would stop working. For example, everything close to Void dragon's ''prison'' on mars stopped functioning. Same happened to imperium on Damnos when scarabs appeared. Why shouldnt it work on forerunners also, nothing is against such idea.

With necron technology, it shouldnt be problem to make forerunner technology useless.

And hey, I want to throw in C'tans. Star gods, propably first sentient beings in existance of galaxy. Madness created by Outsider, techonogical problems created by Void dragon, assasinations and decieving made by Deciever and simply destruction and fear created by Nightbringer could bring Forerunner empire down.

And wait, since we are allowed to bring things that dont exist anymore at in haloverse or 40k's world, I bring in more C'tans.

Since forerunner's have no weaponry that would effectively harm C'tans, their defeat shouldnt come as large surprise.

And hey, I want to throw in chaos! Im not counting necrons and chaos together. Only one chaos god, Tzeentch, against forerunners.

Let me quote one thing:

The Maze of Tzeentch is Tzeentch's realm within the Warp. This maze is woven from the raw fabric of magic, threaded upon deceit and conspiracy. Of all the landscapes of the Warp, this domain is by far the most bizarre and incomprehensible. The Maze's presence is felt across all of the Daemonic realms. Interchanging, shifting avenues made of pure crystals of every colour crisscross Tzeentch's realm. Hidden pathways built from lies and schemes lead out from the maze and infiltrate the dominions of other gods, binding together the fractious Realms of Chaos. The maze itself has no Daemonic defenders. Its own illusory passages are enough of a barrier to any intruder not possessed of the strongest mind imaginable. Its glittering corridors reflect not only light but also hope, misery, dreams and nightmares. The labyrinth does not merely reflect but also distorts, pulling apart hope and purpose turning them into insanity and despair. Driven by Tzeentch's unconscious schemes, the labyrinth constantly moves and rearranges. Those lost within the maze's reaches will wander for eternity with their minds shattered, their dreams broken upon the wheel of their own failed ambition. At the centre of the maze, hidden from those who have not the insane insight to find it, stands the Impossible Fortress. The architecture of the bastion is constantly replaced by new and ever more maddening spires, gates and walls. doors and other entrance points yawn open like starving mouths, before clamping for eternity moments later, barring all access. Within the Fortress time and space does not exist at all and gravity shifts and changes, or disappears all together. Lights of every colour, some even unknown in the real universe, springs from the shifting walls. For mortals, who are so locked in their physical ways, the fortress is impenetrable. Men are driven insane, while their bodies might implode or be pulled apart by the forces unleashed by Tzeentch's passing thoughts. Even immortal daemons cannot easily endure the twisted horror of the Impossible Fortress and only the Lords of Change can safely navigate its corridors, and tread the secret paths that lead to the inner sanctum of the fortress, the Hidden Library, where Tzeentch, the puppet master himself resides, eternally plotting.

Yea, I guess you will accept too that Forerunners would fall to Tzeentch alone. If this isnt enough, let me quote few things about Khorne and Nurgle.

[Edited on 05.01.2011 1:25 PM PDT]

  • 05.01.2011 1:02 PM PDT


Posted by: Xd00999
From what you have said it seems to meany all out war between the Necrons and Forerunners would eventually just devolve into a massive war of attrition.
The Forerunners are said to have massive numbers and near limitless resource capacity to sustain them.
The Necrons numbers are never definitively stated but they are known to be sufficient enough to wipe out a galaxy. It is also commonly stated that Necrons are only beginning to wake up and that the vast majority are still asleep in their tombs. The Necrons can also repair themselves after being completely destroyed: if a Necron body is destroyed and not repaired, at the end of a battle the whole force performs a mass teleport back to their tomb where they break down the destroyed bodies into necrodermis which is used to make more bodies. And yes, the Imperium does make use of shield, though only for important or high-ranking individuals.

Though you raise a valid point about the Forerunners simply bombarding Tomb Worlds into oblivion, you must realize that Necrons have buried their tombs deep within the planet. Despite what you may think, surprise is one of the Necrons most used and effective tactics. Because you don't know which worlds are Tomb Worlds you can't defend each against a full invasion force and you can't destroy every planet that may have some Necrons underneath.

Necrons have also proven that they can make mobile Tomb Worlds and it is possible that they have hundreds of these. The only World Engine seen required several fleets to destroy and was only defeated when a Space Marine Battle Barge rammed into it's shield before sending hundreds of space marines to fight through the World Engine on foot. Please note that the World Engine was surviving Exterminatus from multiple ships and that a Battle Barge is the largest, most powerful ship in the fleet yet it didn't even damage the World Engine when it rammed into it's shield.

Also, what is a gravatar? Was is a typo?


The Forerunners would have no second thoughts in supernova bombing any and all Necron planets; "to show defiance to the Forerunners is to show defiance for the Mantle itself." Necrons, would, of course, be seen by the Forerunners as much an abomination as the Flood.

Enemies of the Forerunners always die.

A good example of this is when the Prophets rose up against the Forerunners. The Forerunners destroyed their planet both by pulling it apart and nuking it with a Halo. Just because of one simple uprising.

In full out war, the Necron's worlds will be targeted for destruction. And no planet can survive a supernova.

  • 05.01.2011 1:17 PM PDT

Posted by: Darth1Snyder
Everytime someone sacks my groceries, I think of Loaf.

Halo: Precursors

  • 05.01.2011 1:20 PM PDT

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I also like House Stark and winter, hurr.

... nothing.

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  • 05.01.2011 1:23 PM PDT

To be honest, when I first saw all this in the weekly update I thought 2 things.
#1- there is an actual legendary ending but,
#2- No matter what anyone does,(kill all the bobs, hit all switches etc) that until the "time" mentioned in "There'll be another time..." is reached there won't be a legendary ending.

The weekly update by bungie has slowed my hardcore search for what unlocks the legendary ending.

Why are the precursors not in here

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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship

Posted by: teekuppi

Posted by: hotshot revan II
As the cruise's fusion drives went crutical,a compact sun blossomed on the surface of Halo.It's thermonuclear sphere carved a five kilometer crater into the superdense ring material and sent powerful pressure waves rippling throughout the structure.Both up and down spin of the explosion,the fireball flattened and sterilized the surface terrain.Within moments,the yellow-white core had consumed all of the available fuel,collapsed upon itself,and winked out.
Still spinnig,but unable to withstand the forces exerted on this weak ponit,the ring structure slowly tore itself apart.Huge chucks of debris tumbled end over end out into space,as a five-hundred-kilometer long sections of the ring's world hull sliced through an even longer curve of brilliantly engineered metal,earth and water and produced a cascade of eerily silent explosion.




Then you should watch the Halo CE cutscene where there was a fireball larger then the width of the ring.Roughly around 1000 km(assuming all rings are 30000 km,because of Cryptums retcon)

This is easily above 200 teraton,this didn't even destroyed the ring all it did was creating a 5 km crater into the dense material.The only reason why the ring was destroyed is because it ripped itself apart .

The Forerunner navy weapons destroyed a ring with sheer strenght alone,unlike the autumn relying on the spinnig ring and it's new weak point.

Halo cryptum pg 129
The first fortress's fighters moved in,surrounding one of the primed Halos and engaging its sentinels.Simultaneously,four cruisers sent white-hot beams to points around the targeted installation.Setninels intercepted some of those beams,partially deflecting them but also absorbing and sacrificing.Other beams struck home,carving canyonlike gouges across the mottled inner surface and blowing blue-white plumed of debris and plasma from the edges.The interior spokes began to shimmer and fade.The Halo could not hold together against this onslaught.It bent inward,wobbled.Fascinated,i watched as hge sections of the ring twisted like ribbon,giving away to destructive nodes of resonance,then rippled in sinus waves and separated with agonizing majesty.



Halo Cryptum pg 320

Even before it had emerged halfway,the fortress began to loose clouds of fighters-at this distancenthey resembled a puff of pollen from a flower-and fire it's weapons in a sequential radiance.The inner curve of the Halo,even protected by waves of hard light,could not stand up long to this assault from within it's own radius.
The fortress's commanders and ancillas must have known they were dooming themself as well as the Halo.The installation began a spectacular disintegrative sequence.The visible half of the ring bent in opposite directions,then shattered into five great arc.


If a single Forerunner ship can do that to a massive ring 30000 km in diameter,then what do you think it will do to the smaller Necron ships.


Necron ship's energy usage could kinda be demonstrated by one moment at nightbringer: Few necron ships were close to star, and the star just simply died. This happened because every second necron ship was close to the star,they took so large amounts of energy that star's life was decreased by hundred thousand years every second. Just letting you know, if youre interested.

Why arent people taking Fall of Damnos in mind? Oh yeah, you dont know about it.

Necron's ability to make other race's techonology useless would pretty much mean, that forerunner techonology would stop working. For example, everything close to Void dragon's ''prison'' on mars stopped functioning. Same happened to imperium on Damnos when scarabs appeared. Why shouldnt it work on forerunners also, nothing is against such idea.

With necron technology, it shouldnt be problem to make forerunner technology useless.

And hey, I want to throw in C'tans. Star gods, propably first sentient beings in existance of galaxy. Madness created by Outsider, techonogical problems created by Void dragon, assasinations and decieving made by Deciever and simply destruction and fear created by Nightbringer could bring Forerunner empire down.

And wait, since we are allowed to bring things that dont exist anymore at in haloverse or 40k's world, I bring in more C'tans.

Since forerunner's have no weaponry that would effectively harm C'tans, their defeat shouldnt come as large surprise.

And hey, I want to throw in chaos! Im not counting necrons and chaos together. Only one chaos god, Tzeentch, against forerunners.

Let me quote one thing:

The Maze of Tzeentch is Tzeentch's realm within the Warp. This maze is woven from the raw fabric of magic, threaded upon deceit and conspiracy. Of all the landscapes of the Warp, this domain is by far the most bizarre and incomprehensible. The Maze's presence is felt across all of the Daemonic realms. Interchanging, shifting avenues made of pure crystals of every colour crisscross Tzeentch's realm. Hidden pathways built from lies and schemes lead out from the maze and infiltrate the dominions of other gods, binding together the fractious Realms of Chaos. The maze itself has no Daemonic defenders. Its own illusory passages are enough of a barrier to any intruder not possessed of the strongest mind imaginable. Its glittering corridors reflect not only light but also hope, misery, dreams and nightmares. The labyrinth does not merely reflect but also distorts, pulling apart hope and purpose turning them into insanity and despair. Driven by Tzeentch's unconscious schemes, the labyrinth constantly moves and rearranges. Those lost within the maze's reaches will wander for eternity with their minds shattered, their dreams broken upon the wheel of their own failed ambition. At the centre of the maze, hidden from those who have not the insane insight to find it, stands the Impossible Fortress. The architecture of the bastion is constantly replaced by new and ever more maddening spires, gates and walls. doors and other entrance points yawn open like starving mouths, before clamping for eternity moments later, barring all access. Within the Fortress time and space does not exist at all and gravity shifts and changes, or disappears all together. Lights of every colour, some even unknown in the real universe, springs from the shifting walls. For mortals, who are so locked in their physical ways, the fortress is impenetrable. Men are driven insane, while their bodies might implode or be pulled apart by the forces unleashed by Tzeentch's passing thoughts. Even immortal daemons cannot easily endure the twisted horror of the Impossible Fortress and only the Lords of Change can safely navigate its corridors, and tread the secret paths that lead to the inner sanctum of the fortress, the Hidden Library, where Tzeentch, the puppet master himself resides, eternally plotting.

Yea, I guess you will accept too that Forerunners would fall to Tzeentch alone. If this isnt enough, let me quote few things about Khorne and Nurgle.

And all it would take is one Ascended Ancient per C'tan/Chaos God for there to be no effect.

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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Xd00999
From what you have said it seems to meany all out war between the Necrons and Forerunners would eventually just devolve into a massive war of attrition.
The Forerunners are said to have massive numbers and near limitless resource capacity to sustain them.
The Necrons numbers are never definitively stated but they are known to be sufficient enough to wipe out a galaxy. It is also commonly stated that Necrons are only beginning to wake up and that the vast majority are still asleep in their tombs. The Necrons can also repair themselves after being completely destroyed: if a Necron body is destroyed and not repaired, at the end of a battle the whole force performs a mass teleport back to their tomb where they break down the destroyed bodies into necrodermis which is used to make more bodies. And yes, the Imperium does make use of shield, though only for important or high-ranking individuals.

Though you raise a valid point about the Forerunners simply bombarding Tomb Worlds into oblivion, you must realize that Necrons have buried their tombs deep within the planet. Despite what you may think, surprise is one of the Necrons most used and effective tactics. Because you don't know which worlds are Tomb Worlds you can't defend each against a full invasion force and you can't destroy every planet that may have some Necrons underneath.

Necrons have also proven that they can make mobile Tomb Worlds and it is possible that they have hundreds of these. The only World Engine seen required several fleets to destroy and was only defeated when a Space Marine Battle Barge rammed into it's shield before sending hundreds of space marines to fight through the World Engine on foot. Please note that the World Engine was surviving Exterminatus from multiple ships and that a Battle Barge is the largest, most powerful ship in the fleet yet it didn't even damage the World Engine when it rammed into it's shield.

Also, what is a gravatar? Was is a typo?


The Forerunners would have no second thoughts in supernova bombing any and all Necron planets; "to show defiance to the Forerunners is to show defiance for the Mantle itself." Necrons, would, of course, be seen by the Forerunners as much an abomination as the Flood.

Enemies of the Forerunners always die.

A good example of this is when the Prophets rose up against the Forerunners. The Forerunners destroyed their planet both by pulling it apart and nuking it with a Halo. Just because of one simple uprising.

In full out war, the Necron's worlds will be targeted for destruction. And no planet can survive a supernova.
Supernovas are not the most effective way to deal with Necrons. If the forerunners nuked every planet that might have Necrons on it, then they would have destroyed thousands of their own planets as well. Necrons are quite literally everywhere. There is even a C'tan buried beneath Mars (Buried there by the Emperor who didn't like it on Earth)!

As for the supernovas themselves, I have no doubt that some Necron ships would survive it. Because Tomb Worlds are hangars, so to speak, for the Necron fleet, the ships could be in orbit and assaulting Forerunners while the ground troops are beginning the Red Harvest. This not only makes it difficult for them to detonate the star, but they have masses of civilians to evacuate from the planet as well.

If by chance they do make the star go supernova, then Necron ships could jump away using their Inertialess drives to get too ridiculously high speeds in seconds. Any ships that are unable to out run the blast could survive because of their enormous power. Four Necron ships where sent to the solar system because they heard of the Void Dragon being trapped beneath mars. Remember, the solar system is the most heavily defended area of space in the Imperium and four Necron ship managed to penetrate those defenceses and get right up to the Noctis labyrinth on the surface of mars before they where destroyed all the while being subjected to the most viscous bombardment after Prospero.

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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

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In case you didn't know, the weapon the Normandy used to kill Soverign was a Dark matter bomb

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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

I agree with teekuppi, Tzeentch could probably beat everyone by coming up with a ridiculously convoluted plot that pits every one against each other. At least until the Necrons finally cut of reality from the warp and then Tzeencth would probably have to create another universe to amuse itself.

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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Posted by: Method Man NYC
1.) Biased poll is biased
2.) Forerunners win. Big tiems.
3.) Lol Reapers.

Ah yes, Reapers.

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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Precursors are literal gods. Enough said.

  • 05.01.2011 2:18 PM PDT

epic, who is saying the Forerunner could beat the Necrontyr, get the hell out of it! Necron weapons actually break apart targets at the atomic level, no amount of armour can prevent this and they are massively toned down for game-play purposes in the actual game! also their ships are made from living metal that learns and adapts to what is fired at it, it also regenerates. another thing worth considering is that Necron ships are very very hard to detect in the first place, plus they teleport legions of warriors onto enemy ships (they have those weapons as well, and are also living metal!).

to put it simply, the Flood would fall to the Necrons, and be completely incapable of taking them over and such, plus their ships are very very fast and usually 'appear' well within sensor range and can 'phase out'. they get well toned down in all iterations to prevent them being impossibly overpowered, this is both WH40K and BFG, their 'story' tells what they are really capable of, which is the pure annihilation of all who stand before them! shouldn't bring the Necrontyr into this argument, since all the races list above fail horribly against them, similar to bringing the Borg Collective into the equation but fair amount worse!

  • 05.01.2011 2:27 PM PDT
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Precursors are literal gods. Enough said.
So are the C'tan. The difference is that one specie is extinct and the other isn't.

  • 05.01.2011 2:46 PM PDT

Never say you're bored. Never say you're satisfied with the world. Never stop doubting or questioning things. Always wonder. Always think. But always take time to drop your guard, you don't have to be smart all the time.

Although it's obvious that precuresors are the victor in these four species,where does it state that thier tech is invincible? Also why is that only halo's weapons could break down nueral structures, couldn't another species from another universe do so?

@ROBERTO jh

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  • 05.01.2011 3:43 PM PDT