- ROBERTO jh
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Posted by: spurkis
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
You are ignoring blatantly obvious evidence and logic by throwing out implausibilities and base assumptions. Loopholes, basically, that you come up with that make the Reapers win; aka: fanboyism. I have seen no--repeat NO --evidence suggesting the Reapers are any stronger then the Covenant. Have you heard of an energy lance? The beam of pure light that--as you should realize--fires at lightspeed, fully capable of obliterating 5 fully armed and armored UNSC ships 100,000 kilometers away with one shot. All Covenant ships with an Energy Projector can do this.
Or howabout the Covenant Assault Carrier? A behemoth which has been known to vaporize targets as large as a 3 kilometer asteroid with a single shot. The energy required to do this is several petatons.
EG: one trillion kilotons per petaton. And if I'm not mistaken, a sub kiloton bomb killed Sovereign in Mass Effect 1.
Sorry to point this out, by size does matter, in Halo at least; larger ship=bigger reactors=more power=bigger guns.
Its absolute bull to try and say that you don't care how powerful Forerunner weaponry is in a vs. match and then say Reapers>Forerunners whilst the whole while completely ignoring the evidence brought to bear. Need I remind you of the scene in Cryptum where a planet is literally pulled apart by Forerunner turrets and starfighters?
Or of the fact they could shatter a Halo Ring in a couple of shots, something 100,000 years of constant kilo/mega/gigatonnage asteroid impacts couldn't even hope to do?
Or of the trillion+ ships in a single fleet?
Trans-universal travel?
And don't get me started on the Ancients; time travel trumps any technology the Reapers have.
You base your entire defense over the concept of Reaper indoctrination, yet you fail to see its one major and obvious flaw: it takes a long time. Did you not pay any attention to the death of Sovereign in ME1? If their indoctrination powers were so godly, that they could be as whimsically used as you suggest, then the Citadel should have fallen. Yet Sovereign died just as well.
You do not consider that a Forerunner Fortess would eat a Reaper alive before it could even start to contemplate indoctrinating the crew. These are the ships and people that use supernovae and trans-universal entanglement traps (Onyx sentinels) as weapons remember.
It seems I--and the other people here--understand the three races better then you do. I don't even watch Stargate and I know they're superior.
Wrong. All I see is people rambling about how godlike the Forerunners are because the can travel between universes, build planets and stuff like that, while I'm trying to defend my position with facts from the Mass Effect games. I honestly can't see why what I'm doing is any more fanboy than what you are. You spam random numbers and are even starting to get hostile. Good job.
What good is an energy lance when the Reapers use FTL travel to just arrive right up in their faces? Trying to fire a glassing beam would only result in hitting an allied ship.
Ah, the behemoth which was decimated by a group of starfighters and a clever bomb? If all the Assault Carriers/Supercarriers have such foolish captains, then they are doomed.
You say you know so much about the ME-universe, but if you didn't see the ending cutscene in ME1 I don't understand why you're even saying this. Sovereign was "clinically dead"
when the Saren avatar died, and was then teared apart by a strike of who knows how many MAC shots, bombs, etc. If you think the Normandy bomb singlehandedly destroyed Sovereign then you are wrong.
And Reapers have just as powerful weapons, except they're not made up of light.
We have no idea how many Reapers there are.
What use is trans-universal travel, exactly?
For the third time, I haven't seen Stargate so I essentially don't give a damn about the Ancients right now.
You fail to see how fast indoctrination happens. Dr. Kenson, Saren, Collector General, numerous Reaper Artifact archeologists, the Cerberus team on the Reaper, etc. I quote the Illusive Man from ME2: "Contact was lost shortly after they set up". Sovereign and Saren overwhelmed everything and everyone. They essentially fell the Citadel, but Shepard stopped them in the very last seconds.
I rest my case about the indoctrinating crew thing you mention here.
It seems that you are a very angry little man that needs to let som steam out and stop preaching to the Forerunners.
Prove it. Seriously, prove to me Reaper weapons are more powerful then the Forerunners. I seriously want you to prove it. Because the only weapon we've ever seen a Reaper use in combat was a mass driver, a weapon that fires a slug so inconsequential to Foreunner adamantium--based on evidence from Cryptum--it barely matters.
If I was preaching to the Forerunners, I'd say they win this fight. They don't. The Ancients do, and I don't even watch Stargate. I'm not spamming numbers, I'm using baseeline facts and evidence from the books and the games.
The only spam I see is you ignoring the technological wonder of the Forerunners/Ancients and saying "Reapers are more powerful because I say so" whilst not proving anything. Saying "I don't care what Cryptum evidence you bring, Reapers>Foretunners." Just because you've never read a book doesn't mean it exists; are you that conceited to think that?
The ME Codex/wiki states quite clearly "indoctrination can take days or weeks." So how that helps in combat I have no idea.
I bet you too also think they can defeat the Xeelee, huh?