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Posted by: switch 104 sv
The Chief was never truly alone. He Fought almost the entirity of his military career in a squad, fought with numerous standard infantry backup or had the most advanced AI ever built helping him, or all at once.
I realize this. that's what the "almost" was for. I said almost singlehandedly to point out that the chief did more to save the galaxy than anyone else.
No
Ok then. :)
Halo 4 will presumably carry on the Chief's legacy, further enforcing his heroic and legendary status. (NO pun intended)
I know, that's what I said.
Opinions differ. From a narrative perspective I thought Reach failed. There was a serious lack of character development and the general plot seemed confused and sketchy for the most part.
Reach created alot of questions, but not alot of answers.
I'll agree that the plot was sketchy at times, and that it created more questions than answers, but that only occurs when you try to fit it into the canon of the rest of the universe. What I meant when I said "stand alone story".
As for the characters, I thought other than ODST, Reach had the best character development of any halo game. The characters from the trilogy, while I love them, are extremely generic. And the MC really never had a personality. One of my favorite parts of Reach is when Carter is talking at the peginning of the Package, after Kat dies. It's extremely subtle, but he has almost no urgency or determination in his voice. I look at that as greif. He's simply in soldier mode. I doubt most people would catch on to it, but its those very subtle changes that, to me, show that Bungie did a great job of crafting deep characters. However, as you said "Opinions Differ". :)
Epic, but cliche. Not saying I didn't enjoy it, more that their deaths could have been slightly less generic and therefore more interesting, more effective.
I'll agree with that. Really the only death that isn't cliche is Kat's. Departed style, mid-sentence and everything, lol.
It doesn't. People mistakenly put MC on a pedestal that he didn't deserve.
Right, he's the first Halo character Halo fans ever got to know, and he saved the galaxy. Yeah, you're right, he doesn't deserve it. Forget I ever said it.
I know the fiction says that John isn't the best Spartan, but the best movies hardly put the right man for the job in these dire situations. No one asks to be a hero, sometimes it just turns out that way. This thread was really only meant to be based on the games, not the novels. I mean it's this pedestal you're referring to that makes 343 want to continue his story. I know there's more to Halo than MC, but Halo wouldn't be anything if it weren't for him, that's all I'm trying to say.
Were you expecting Bungie to tone the awesome purely because the MC was not doing said actions?
Not at all, that's a pretty good point actually.
Spartans are far from regular soldiers. Even ODSTs are more epic than a standard marine, and marines themselves can achieve awesomeness.
I never said Spartans were regular soldiers. I was referring to the ODST squad from ODST. And while they are more advanced than regular marines, they're still regular humans. A little more hardcore maybe, but still soldiers. I am aware that marines can be epic. That was actually the point I was trying to make. They were awesome, but they were awesome because they worked together, not because they rode a bomb through space into a covenant ship. lol.
You do have some good points though, good debate :)