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Subject: Ralph-303's unsually high Spartan tag explanation

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
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So O'Connor said that it will be explained in the future why Ralph has a unusually high Spartan tag. There were of course only 150 candidates for Class-I. Only 75 conscripted (seems random as you have James who's 005 and John who's 117.)
Due to psycological issues from seeing and killing his clone, he was discharged from the UNSC. Later though he re-inlisted (why they didn't put him back in the Spartan program I'm not sure.)
Why do you think Ralph has such a high Spartan tag?

Could it be that the gene pool candidates was actually higher than Halsey stated?

Could it be a simple typo and he's supposed to be Ralph-033?

  • 04.29.2011 11:42 AM PDT

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There's probably some secret about the program, or the Spartans, (Or both.) that they'll reveal at a later date.

  • 04.29.2011 12:04 PM PDT

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Ralph's entire existence is a result of poor writing.

The idea that any military body would let a former, and mentally unstable, member of a top secret program with moral implications, such as kidnapping children and subjecting them to high-risk experimental surgery, back into the general populace is just....seriously, who the hell wrote this?

I mean, look at every other SII washout that survived; they're all working desk jobs with ONI. And then you get Ralph, who they must have told, "Okay, you can go, but promise not to tell anyone about the whole stealing you from your family and pretty much ruining any chance you ever had at leading a normal life, okay?"

I just don't get why Halo's story has been handled the way it has since Halo 3. ODST was alright, but then we get to Reach, and all parties involved decide "Oh hey, -blam!- that fictional universe we've been building for the last decade!"

And of the supplemental media, such as comics and the like; I'm sure there are plenty of talented, unemployed writers out there who could sacrifice "artistic licence" for the sake of continuity.

I'm in full-blown rant mode now, and I'm not really sure where I'm going with this aside from "Holy -blam!-, guys; a fifth grader can write a more cohesive and consistent story than you."

But for now, I have to get ready for work.

  • 04.29.2011 12:14 PM PDT
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That story Odd one Out was not a actual Halo story
It was fake. Sort of, it wasn't canon

  • 04.29.2011 12:31 PM PDT
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Maybe Halsey initially had a large number of candidates. Lets say 500. Then she refined her selection criteria, but didn't renumber as she struck names from the list. She couldn't find any meaningful differences in the top 150, so she then goes out to look at the candidates and decides with the flip of a coin. To account for the fact that most of the Spartans we know of are clustered closer to the 0 end than the 500 end, maybe her initial list was ranked by probability of being a good candidate. As she refined the criteria, most at the end of the list got eliminated, but a couple moved up.

  • 04.29.2011 12:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: opogjijijp
Maybe Halsey initially had a large number of candidates. Lets say 500. Then she refined her selection criteria, but didn't renumber as she struck names from the list. She couldn't find any meaningful differences in the top 150, so she then goes out to look at the candidates and decides with the flip of a coin. To account for the fact that most of the Spartans we know of are clustered closer to the 0 end than the 500 end, maybe her initial list was ranked by probability of being a good candidate. As she refined the criteria, most at the end of the list got eliminated, but a couple moved up.


Makes the most sense without making things too complicated

  • 04.29.2011 12:45 PM PDT

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Or you could just assume that the original candidates were designated with numbers before abduction and that not all of the 150 original candidates were numbered 1-150. It merely has to be 150 numbers. I mean, MC's program only had 75 Spartans to begin with and yet his number is 117. If there were 300+ children being scouted originally the numbers could be anything.

[Edited on 04.29.2011 12:49 PM PDT]

  • 04.29.2011 12:48 PM PDT

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg


Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Or you could just assume that the original candidates were designated with numbers before abduction and that not all of the 150 original candidates were numbered 1-150. It merely has to be 150 numbers. I mean, MC's program only had 75 Spartans to begin with and yet his number is 117. If there were 300+ children being scouted originally the numbers could be anything.


True. But this can be struck down as in the Fall of Reach comic you see the candidates are listed in order. You see Spartan 115,116,117,118,119 etc.

Ralph was mentally unstable, why let a "crazy" wwork at your job? I think it was appropriate for the UNSC to let him go. He could have snapped and went on a killing spree.

As far as the washouts having jobs, I want to know to what extent. You have a couple Spartans (Rene, Kirk) who can't do -blam!-. Unless I guess their minds are plugged into a computer or something.

  • 04.29.2011 12:56 PM PDT

I know the explanation.

3oh!3! BALLERADO!

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  • 04.29.2011 1:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dustin 6047
No there were 300 abducted children and 150 were picked for the Spartan project.


They never abducted 300 children....

  • 04.29.2011 1:37 PM PDT

There were 300 in the initial group. This was then narrowed down to 150, from which the 75 final candidates were drawn.

  • 04.29.2011 1:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dustin 6047
Yes they did.


Please then show where they've abducted 300 kids for the Spartan II project because they didn't.

There were 300 suitable candidates for the project, but funding was cut for half of them. Halsey then proceeded to pick out the 150 that would be approved for the project based on observations of all children still living normally. It is only after then that ONI begins abducting the 150 chosen children. There were never 300 abductions for the Spartan IIs.

[Edited on 04.29.2011 2:41 PM PDT]

  • 04.29.2011 2:41 PM PDT


Posted by: Dustin 6047
Yes they did.

no

  • 04.29.2011 2:49 PM PDT

perhaps the reach environment, makes the inhabitants more receptive to the spartan Augmentations. the different gravity or something.

  • 04.29.2011 3:26 PM PDT

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The idea that any military body would let a former, and mentally unstable, member of a top secret program with moral implications, such as kidnapping children and subjecting them to high-risk experimental surgery, back into the general populace is just....seriously, who the hell wrote this?

Eric Nylund.

  • 04.29.2011 8:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: Primo84
The idea that any military body would let a former, and mentally unstable, member of a top secret program with moral implications, such as kidnapping children and subjecting them to high-risk experimental surgery, back into the general populace is just....seriously, who the hell wrote this?

Eric Nylund.

Did Eric Nylund write Homecoming?

  • 04.29.2011 8:06 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Primo84
The idea that any military body would let a former, and mentally unstable, member of a top secret program with moral implications, such as kidnapping children and subjecting them to high-risk experimental surgery, back into the general populace is just....seriously, who the hell wrote this?

Eric Nylund.

Did Eric Nylund write Homecoming?

No, but he pretty much gave it his blessing. He did write Halsey's Journal which mentions Ralph being let back into normal society.

  • 04.29.2011 8:08 PM PDT
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How many threads does this kid start?

  • 04.29.2011 8:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: Primo84
The idea that any military body would let a former, and mentally unstable, member of a top secret program with moral implications, such as kidnapping children and subjecting them to high-risk experimental surgery, back into the general populace is just....seriously, who the hell wrote this?

Eric Nylund.

Did Eric Nylund write Homecoming?

No, but he pretty much gave it his blessing. He did write Halsey's Journal which mentions Ralph being let back into normal society.
Because people never do things to save face, right?

  • 04.29.2011 9:09 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Primo84
The idea that any military body would let a former, and mentally unstable, member of a top secret program with moral implications, such as kidnapping children and subjecting them to high-risk experimental surgery, back into the general populace is just....seriously, who the hell wrote this?

Eric Nylund.

Did Eric Nylund write Homecoming?

No, but he pretty much gave it his blessing. He did write Halsey's Journal which mentions Ralph being let back into normal society.
Because people never do things to save face, right?

All I know is Nylund was involved. You interpret it how you want.

  • 04.29.2011 9:10 PM PDT

Please don't hype for games...
They'll just fall short of your expectations and you'll complain for months.

I think in halsey's notebook, there's something about "privatized spartans." These Spartans were created by ONI not by the SII program. Maybe ralph is one of those "privatized spartans?"

  • 04.29.2011 11:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Alpha00
I think in halsey's notebook, there's something about "privatized spartans." These Spartans were created by ONI not by the SII program. Maybe ralph is one of those "privatized spartans?"


There's nothing in the journal about "privatized spartans".

  • 04.29.2011 11:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: Alpha00
I think in halsey's notebook, there's something about "privatized spartans." These Spartans were created by ONI not by the SII program. Maybe ralph is one of those "privatized spartans?"


There's nothing in the journal about "privatized spartans".


Wasn't she referring to Noble Team with that one, because, she knew they were not her Spartans, but she didn't knew they were III's. A good origin for the term "privatized Spartans" if you ask me.

  • 04.29.2011 11:50 PM PDT

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