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Subject: Why do people say N6 is better?
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Honestly ya i kinda use to think the same but not really not at all, if you read the books you would understand that chief is just a better spartan.


Blue team was just better than noble and honestly the reach game with noble was not as epic as it should have been ya know?


So what do you guys think?

  • 05.01.2011 3:22 PM PDT

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  • 05.01.2011 3:26 PM PDT

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For most people it seems that they will pick the Spartan from their favorite game as their idea of the best Spartan. If someone liked Reach the best they might say that N6 is the best. If they liked one of the games from the trilogy they are more likely to say MC is the best (hi!).

  • 05.01.2011 3:31 PM PDT

I read the books, and have played all the games.

Chief was a good spartan, just like the rest.

I consider 6 to be better in the case of some/most of the halo trilogy events for this reason. He could fight alone.

He took out entire terrorist organizations by himself without backup. He wouldn't have the phase of adapting to fight alone chief had in alpha halo.

  • 05.01.2011 3:52 PM PDT

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Deal with it.

If Noble 6 wasn't on reach or had died earlier chief would have been screwed.

  • 05.01.2011 4:06 PM PDT

I like Halo CE the best of all Halo games, but even I must admit that N6 is a better spartan.

Those that have read the books appreciate that the Chief was lethal as an individual and unstoppable as part of a team.

Noble 6's back story shows that he/she was lethal either way.

  • 05.01.2011 4:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: Shellhead
I like Halo CE the best of all Halo games, but even I must admit that N6 is a better spartan.

Those that have read the books appreciate that the Chief was lethal as an individual and unstoppable as part of a team.

Noble 6's back story shows that he/she was lethal either way.


This.

  • 05.01.2011 4:14 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I read the books, and have played all the games.

Chief was a good spartan, just like the rest.

I consider 6 to be better in the case of some/most of the halo trilogy events for this reason. He could fight alone.

He took out entire terrorist organizations by himself without backup. He wouldn't have the phase of adapting to fight alone chief had in alpha halo.


Meh, Chief could fight alone as well, the first skirmishes he took part in on Alpha Halo were the only time he really had any trouble going it solo, and really it indicates in the Flood that it was only that one encounter that he had any difficulty, and not because Chief is not as good solo, but because he needed to adjust to working solo.

I personally think that Chief and Six are equal in just about every way combat wise. And both had the same sort of back up in their respective games. I think Chief's service record is much more impressive than Six's, but only because Six died on Reach and didn't have a chance to be fielded in the fighting of open battle front campaigns. Had she lived longer I'm sure she could have done many of the same things as Chief.

  • 05.01.2011 6:42 PM PDT


Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I read the books, and have played all the games.

Chief was a good spartan, just like the rest.

I consider 6 to be better in the case of some/most of the halo trilogy events for this reason. He could fight alone.

He took out entire terrorist organizations by himself without backup. He wouldn't have the phase of adapting to fight alone chief had in alpha halo.


Meh, Chief could fight alone as well, the first skirmishes he took part in on Alpha Halo were the only time he really had any trouble going it solo, and really it indicates in the Flood that it was only that one encounter that he had any difficulty, and not because Chief is not as good solo, but because he needed to adjust to working solo.

I personally think that Chief and Six are equal in just about every way combat wise. And both had the same sort of back up in their respective games. I think Chief's service record is much more impressive than Six's, but only because Six died on Reach and didn't have a chance to be fielded in the fighting of open battle front campaigns. Had she lived longer I'm sure she could have done many of the same things as Chief.


Well, then again it's personal view about the trilogy.

Though, Chief's pre-Reach record is more impressive simply because there is more information, with Six we just have "Destroyed entire Terrorist Organizations and made entire militia groups disappear alone."

Meh, they may be similar or just as good as each other, but I like Six more :X.

  • 05.01.2011 6:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I read the books, and have played all the games.

Chief was a good spartan, just like the rest.

I consider 6 to be better in the case of some/most of the halo trilogy events for this reason. He could fight alone.

He took out entire terrorist organizations by himself without backup. He wouldn't have the phase of adapting to fight alone chief had in alpha halo.


Terrorist =/= Covenant. Six was killed by a group of Zealots. S-117 has dozens, if not over 100 Zealot registered kills under his belt. Six, erm...no.

  • 05.01.2011 6:51 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I read the books, and have played all the games.

Chief was a good spartan, just like the rest.

I consider 6 to be better in the case of some/most of the halo trilogy events for this reason. He could fight alone.

He took out entire terrorist organizations by himself without backup. He wouldn't have the phase of adapting to fight alone chief had in alpha halo.


Meh, Chief could fight alone as well, the first skirmishes he took part in on Alpha Halo were the only time he really had any trouble going it solo, and really it indicates in the Flood that it was only that one encounter that he had any difficulty, and not because Chief is not as good solo, but because he needed to adjust to working solo.

I personally think that Chief and Six are equal in just about every way combat wise. And both had the same sort of back up in their respective games. I think Chief's service record is much more impressive than Six's, but only because Six died on Reach and didn't have a chance to be fielded in the fighting of open battle front campaigns. Had she lived longer I'm sure she could have done many of the same things as Chief.


Well, then again it's personal view about the trilogy.

Though, Chief's pre-Reach record is more impressive simply because there is more information, with Six we just have "Destroyed entire Terrorist Organizations and made entire militia groups disappear alone."

Meh, they may be similar or just as good as each other, but I like Six more :X.


Indeed, I'm perfectly willing to agree to disagree, as I don't think either of us are changing our opinions any time soon :P

I was actually talking about Chief's record overall :3 not just the events before Reach. I was saying Six probably could have pulled off similar things (like taking down Scarabs with relative ease) if she had made it off Reach. And you could make Six better than Chief if you wanted to, as his/her backstory is completely up to the player. Like my Six is a female, hence why use the female pronouns most of the time when I talk about Six.

I think they're about the same. And I like Chief more, mostly because I've had more time to get to know and love him and Six is the "new kid in the class" so to speak.

  • 05.01.2011 6:53 PM PDT


Posted by: I Em I Raptor

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I read the books, and have played all the games.

Chief was a good spartan, just like the rest.

I consider 6 to be better in the case of some/most of the halo trilogy events for this reason. He could fight alone.

He took out entire terrorist organizations by himself without backup. He wouldn't have the phase of adapting to fight alone chief had in alpha halo.


Terrorist =/= Covenant. Six was killed by a group of Zealots. S-117 has dozens, if not over 100 Zealot registered kills under his belt. Six, erm...no.


Way to skew the facts.

Six was killed by a group of mix elites, 7 in fact, and only one was a zealot. He killed two ultras, a major, and a general before being knocked down. This was without shields, tired, and wounded.

Chief... has never been in that situation. He has never faced more then one Zealot at a time, and that was with fully working shields and all.

You are correct, a single terrorist is nothing compared to a zealot. However, Terrorist Organizations? Different story. This would be akin to the base Chief infiltrated to capture the leader before he had MJOLNIR.

As for Zealot kills. Six has... 3 from WC, 1 from tip of the spear. 3-4 from PoA, a field marshall, several generals... and that's ONLY from the battle of Reach. Six, from dialogue, has had prior encounters with them. "Shield strength too." A Spartan wouldn't know that unless they had faced one.

Edit: Coma, yeah I often play six as Female as I prefer that model to the male one in armory, and I think there are too many "badass guy heroes". I just use He for Six since He tends to be the 'unknown gender' pronoun.

[Edited on 05.01.2011 6:59 PM PDT]

  • 05.01.2011 6:58 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Because it seems like Chief has passed into that phase where it's not "cool," to think he's the best. It's too mainstream. N6 will get there as well. He already ind of is, as usually people point out that Kurt and Fred kick N6's ass.

And @ Guyabove,

I've been in tonnes of tougher situations than that in Halo: CE - 3 and gotten out of them. Hell, I've even been in tougher situations than that in ODST and pulled through. That doesn't make 6 spectacular, just impressive.

[Edited on 05.01.2011 7:00 PM PDT]

  • 05.01.2011 6:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Because it seems like Chief has passed into that phase where it's not "cool," to think he's the best. It's too mainstream. N6 will get there as well. He already ind of is, as usually people point out that Kurt and Fred kick N6's ass.

And @ Guyabove,

I've been in tonnes of tougher situations than that in Halo: CE - 3 and gotten out of them. Hell, I've even been in tougher situations than that in ODST and pulled through. That doesn't make 6 spectacular, just impressive.


He is just referring to the fact that people shouldn't count the number of kills in the campaign cause it's not really accurate, I could just use the Target locator in ONI Base and have Six kill 20,000 Elites, Grunts, Jackals and Skirmishers in like a day and still that doesn't make him god, catch what I'm saying?

  • 05.01.2011 7:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: I Em I Raptor

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I read the books, and have played all the games.

Chief was a good spartan, just like the rest.

I consider 6 to be better in the case of some/most of the halo trilogy events for this reason. He could fight alone.

He took out entire terrorist organizations by himself without backup. He wouldn't have the phase of adapting to fight alone chief had in alpha halo.


Terrorist =/= Covenant. Six was killed by a group of Zealots. S-117 has dozens, if not over 100 Zealot registered kills under his belt. Six, erm...no.

What a bull-blam!- statistic.

  • 05.01.2011 7:09 PM PDT

I do have to agree they are pretty equal. The only advantage I can think of the Chief having over Six is the possibility of more augmentations due to being a Spartan-II, but as far as I know the only advantages IIs have over IIIs are strength and a slight bit more speed, and most of that was just due to the MJOLNIR armor systems (which Noble Six has), so yeah I gotta say in a fight between S-117 and S-B312 it would be damn close, in the end it comes down to who the player is, and how much their skill is.

  • 05.01.2011 7:09 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
He is just referring to the fact that people shouldn't count the number of kills in the campaign cause it's not really accurate, I could just use the Target locator in ONI Base and have Six kill 20,000 Elites, Grunts, Jackals and Skirmishers in like a day and still that doesn't make him god, catch what I'm saying?


At the beginning of his post he says Chief has never been in a situation like that. That is just not true. But no, obviously you don't count the number of kills in campaign since the multiple play throughs just keep adding them up. Chief has more kills anyway so that's not really a fair competition regardless.

[Edited on 05.01.2011 7:10 PM PDT]

  • 05.01.2011 7:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: Shellhead
I like Halo CE the best of all Halo games, but even I must admit that N6 is a better spartan.

Those that have read the books appreciate that the Chief was lethal as an individual and unstoppable as part of a team.

Noble 6's back story shows that he/she was lethal either way.

This doesn't make sense. You say Chief is lethal as an individual, N6 is lethal as an individual. Chief is unstoppable as part of a team, N6 is lethal being a part of a team. You're saying the same thing about both Spartans, so how does this determine N6 is better? Plus, Chief took down a whole Covenant Armada by himself, stopped the whole entire war almost completely alone by destroying the Halos, which led to destroying the Flood and whatnot. Chief is definitely better.

  • 05.01.2011 7:15 PM PDT

Posted by: dahuterschuter

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
He is just referring to the fact that people shouldn't count the number of kills in the campaign cause it's not really accurate, I could just use the Target locator in ONI Base and have Six kill 20,000 Elites, Grunts, Jackals and Skirmishers in like a day and still that doesn't make him god, catch what I'm saying?


At the beginning of his post he says Chief has never been in a situation like that. That is just not true. But no, obviously you don't count the number of kills in campaign since the multiple play throughs just keep adding them up. Chief has more kills anyway so that's not really a fair competition regardless.


Never in any canon cutscene has he. And I've never fought multiple Zealots on any campaign level of the original trilogy. The most of that level of an enemy that I've fought in the original trilogy would be those two Brute Chieftains on The Covenant, and they are fought about 30 minutes apart.

  • 05.01.2011 7:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: Shellhead
I like Halo CE the best of all Halo games, but even I must admit that N6 is a better spartan.

Those that have read the books appreciate that the Chief was lethal as an individual and unstoppable as part of a team.

Noble 6's back story shows that he/she was lethal either way.

This doesn't make sense. You say Chief is lethal as an individual, N6 is lethal as an individual. Chief is unstoppable as part of a team, N6 is lethal being a part of a team. You're saying the same thing about both Spartans, so how does this determine N6 is better? Plus, Chief took down a whole Covenant Armada by himself, stopped the whole entire war almost completely alone by destroying the Halos, which led to destroying the Flood and whatnot. Chief is definitely better.


Um, he wasn't alone, he was always either accompanied by Cortana, The Arbiter, or Johnson and a squad of Marines.

  • 05.01.2011 7:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Never in any canon cutscene has he. And I've never fought multiple Zealots on any campaign level of the original trilogy. The most of that level of an enemy that I've fought in the original trilogy would be those two Brute Chieftains on The Covenant, and they are fought about 30 minutes apart.


Well if we're only going by cut scenes, then Chief wins automatically. He destroys Covenant ships in cutscenes, and the Halo rings, and the Ark with all of The Flood on it.

  • 05.01.2011 7:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: I Em I Raptor
Terrorist =/= Covenant.

This, right here. Killing human terroist is far, far easier than killing Covenant even when they don't have armor on.

  • 05.01.2011 7:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
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Posted by: Shellhead
I like Halo CE the best of all Halo games, but even I must admit that N6 is a better spartan.

Those that have read the books appreciate that the Chief was lethal as an individual and unstoppable as part of a team.

Noble 6's back story shows that he/she was lethal either way.

This doesn't make sense. You say Chief is lethal as an individual, N6 is lethal as an individual. Chief is unstoppable as part of a team, N6 is lethal being a part of a team. You're saying the same thing about both Spartans, so how does this determine N6 is better? Plus, Chief took down a whole Covenant Armada by himself, stopped the whole entire war almost completely alone by destroying the Halos, which led to destroying the Flood and whatnot. Chief is definitely better.


Um, he wasn't alone, he was always either accompanied by Cortana, The Arbiter, or Johnson and a squad of Marines.

And the Flood aren't defeated, not by a long shot. Put Six in Chief's shoes and he would do much better.

  • 05.01.2011 7:18 PM PDT


Posted by: ThePredkiller2
I do have to agree they are pretty equal. The only advantage I can think of the Chief having over Six is the possibility of more augmentations due to being a Spartan-II, but as far as I know the only advantages IIs have over IIIs are strength and a slight bit more speed, and most of that was just due to the MJOLNIR armor systems (which Noble Six has), so yeah I gotta say in a fight between S-117 and S-B312 it would be damn close, in the end it comes down to who the player is, and how much their skill is.


Yeah, the only real difference between Chief and Six that I see is one had the bad luck of getting overrun and killed, while the other has lived on. And Chief has slightly more experience in the field than Six does I believe, since Chief and all the other SIIs have been around and fighting longer than the IIIs. But skill wise the two are rather close.

A fight between Chief and Six would no doubt be truely epic and well worth seeing.

  • 05.01.2011 7:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9

Posted by: I Em I Raptor
Terrorist =/= Covenant.

This, right here. Killing human terroist is far, far easier than killing Covenant even when they don't have armor on.

Funny, I remember reading about John almost being turned into confetti along with the rest of Blue team by Terrorists.

  • 05.01.2011 7:19 PM PDT