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Subject: Is there two types of spirits and phantoms?

I'm just asking because in Halo C.E. the spirits fired these purple bolts which really suited the spirit but now in Halo Reach the spirits fire the really annoying concusion bolts . does that mean there are two types of spirits. Its the same thing with the phantoms why couldn't they have gone back to the way they were?

C.E. Spirit Which was not annoying


[Edited on 05.02.2011 5:42 AM PDT]

  • 05.02.2011 5:31 AM PDT

Am I supposed to write something funny here?

They have different weaponry. That doesn't mean that there are multiple models. It just shows that they can be fitted with varying armament.

  • 05.02.2011 5:40 AM PDT

I just hate the concusion rounds

  • 05.02.2011 5:43 AM PDT

Concussion weapons are so irritating it is unreal, I don't think they are meant to represent two different types of craft, but rather the Reach on is a 're-imagined' model like a lot of stuff in Reach.

back to Concussion weapons, they are total rubbish for a number of reasons. they are useless, unless they are in the hands of an enemy and that is the honest truth of the matter. during the campaign you can empty the whole magazine into an Elite and it does nothing, just knocks them about, yet one or two shots kill you and launch your corpse, hence stupid! also happens in matchmaking as well, used a Concussion weapon against some bloke, shot him in the face numerous times, did nothing. later in that same game I die to like three shots from the same weapon...!

Edit: also on Legendary they seem to have an insane blast radius and a single shot almost insta-kills you, regardless of shield level and health level!

[Edited on 05.02.2011 5:48 AM PDT]

  • 05.02.2011 5:47 AM PDT

Different turrets does not = different models.

Edit: Conc rifles are made for pushback from what I can tell. Of course the damn AI using them will have them more powerful, honestly if they were that powerful you'd use only that gun.

[Edited on 05.02.2011 6:00 AM PDT]

  • 05.02.2011 5:59 AM PDT

so glad I ain't the only one who thinks they are useless! the AI is horrible with them, same applies to the Focus Rifle, which I can't seem to use, when I shoot people in the face with it, doesn't seem to do much! yet they absolutely annihilate me!

  • 05.02.2011 6:03 AM PDT


Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
so glad I ain't the only one who thinks they are useless! the AI is horrible with them, same applies to the Focus Rifle, which I can't seem to use, when I shoot people in the face with it, doesn't seem to do much! yet they absolutely annihilate me!


Conc rifle is mainly annoying in the LASO challenges where elites/brutes fire them like assault rifles.

I had that happen to me at the end of the WC one. the zealots with conc rifles fired them super-quick.

  • 05.02.2011 6:13 AM PDT

same problem for me and a mate doing a LASO challenge on Exodus, some brute just decided he had enough of us, ran toward us soaking up fire (which in typical LASO style, did nothing) rapid firing his Concussion rifle, he fired about thirty shots and didn't even stop to reload, bottomless clips, come the blam! on Bungie!

  • 05.02.2011 6:29 AM PDT

Burn Bright. Burn Blue. Love ya Bungie!

Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
Concussion weapons are so irritating it is unreal, I don't think they are meant to represent two different types of craft, but rather the Reach on is a 're-imagined' model like a lot of stuff in Reach.

back to Concussion weapons, they are total rubbish for a number of reasons. they are useless, unless they are in the hands of an enemy and that is the honest truth of the matter. during the campaign you can empty the whole magazine into an Elite and it does nothing, just knocks them about, yet one or two shots kill you and launch your corpse, hence stupid! also happens in matchmaking as well, used a Concussion weapon against some bloke, shot him in the face numerous times, did nothing. later in that same game I die to like three shots from the same weapon...!

Edit: also on Legendary they seem to have an insane blast radius and a single shot almost insta-kills you, regardless of shield level and health level!
Are we refering to Phantom Gunboats?

  • 05.02.2011 6:31 AM PDT

no, I believe its regarding Spirit Drop-ships.

  • 05.02.2011 6:37 AM PDT

Burn Bright. Burn Blue. Love ya Bungie!

Either way, they're annoying as well.

  • 05.02.2011 6:48 AM PDT


Posted by: Sinnerj117
Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
Concussion weapons are so irritating it is unreal, I don't think they are meant to represent two different types of craft, but rather the Reach on is a 're-imagined' model like a lot of stuff in Reach.

back to Concussion weapons, they are total rubbish for a number of reasons. they are useless, unless they are in the hands of an enemy and that is the honest truth of the matter. during the campaign you can empty the whole magazine into an Elite and it does nothing, just knocks them about, yet one or two shots kill you and launch your corpse, hence stupid! also happens in matchmaking as well, used a Concussion weapon against some bloke, shot him in the face numerous times, did nothing. later in that same game I die to like three shots from the same weapon...!

Edit: also on Legendary they seem to have an insane blast radius and a single shot almost insta-kills you, regardless of shield level and health level!
Are we refering to Phantom Gunboats?

It applies to both cause now they are both annoying with the concusion rounds

  • 05.02.2011 7:06 AM PDT