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Subject: SPARTAN III Operations

Can anyone explain to me the Spartan III operations and their outcomes?

I am aware that they were suicide ops or something similar, hence the controversy surrounding Noble Team, but I would like further explanation and more detail.

Thanks!

  • 05.02.2011 11:01 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

They were mostly Special Operations, with the Spartans doing them in extremely secrecy as to avoid knowledge of the program to the public. They eliminated an insurrection in Mamore or some place like that, I'd check, but I'm on my iPhone.

  • 05.02.2011 11:04 AM PDT

Thanks, what about Operation: PROMETHEUS? Is that related?

  • 05.02.2011 11:07 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Operation: PROMETHEUS was the last mission of the Spartans from Alpha Company, they arrived to an asteroid field where a Covenant refinery was located and began to take out their reactors, they spent seven days there, fighting all the while destroying the installations, by the seventh day The Covenant sent a huge countermeasure force consisting of thousands of Elites, Jackals, Hunters and Grunts along with Banshees/Seraphs and killed the Spartans although the refinery was unable to function again.

  • 05.02.2011 11:13 AM PDT

I see. Thanks for the info!

  • 05.02.2011 11:20 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

No problem.

  • 05.02.2011 11:25 AM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Alpha Company:

- Insurrection of Mamore.

- Battle of New Constantinople.

- Bonanza Asteroid Field.

- Six other unnamed ops.

- Operation PROMETHEUS: All 300 S-III's are KIA.

Beta Company:

- OPERATION TORPEDO: 298(?) S-III's KIA, Tom and Lucy only known survivors.

- Other operations not shown.

(?) Beta Company had 300 Spartans, but only 291 made it to the surface of Pegasi Delta, and we arent accounting the members pulled out before TORPEDO. Unless those missing 9 were pulled out and their teammates thought they were KIA.

Gamma Company:

- Only one operation, but no idea where nor what was concerned.

Delta Company:

- Posposed and was never trained.
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Allthough from both Alpha and Beta companies, members were pulled out before the operations that would take toll on the rest of their teammates and assigned to SpecOp teams outside the Spartan III program.

[Edited on 05.02.2011 12:54 PM PDT]

  • 05.02.2011 12:47 PM PDT

CABOOSE RULES!!!
Red vs blue fans

You forgot the Headhunters operating in covenant occupied space (see Halo: Evolution). The headhunters are a number of 2 man teams assigned sabotage and assassination mission, which resulted in most teams completing there missions then being killed when unable to escape.

  • 05.02.2011 1:49 PM PDT


Posted by: HipiO7
- Operation PROMETHEUS: All 300 S-III's are KIA.


How were all of them killed if Kat was a Spartan III?

  • 05.02.2011 1:59 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: Halo_G0d
Posted by: HipiO7
- Operation PROMETHEUS: All 300 S-III's are KIA.


How were all of them killed if Kat was a Spartan III?


Kat was a Beta Company Spartan, not an Alpha Company Spartan III.

Anyways, I'm giving the mission report, obviously there were less than 300 KIA's because Carter, Emile and Jun were from Alpha.

Posted by: madgaurd1989
You forgot the Headhunters operating in covenant occupied space (see Halo: Evolution). The headhunters are a number of 2 man teams assigned sabotage and assassination mission, which resulted in most teams completing there missions then being killed when unable to escape.


Yes. I am aware of the Headhunters. But I did not include them, because they were more of a seperate entity and not related to the Spartan III program.

[Edited on 05.02.2011 2:02 PM PDT]

  • 05.02.2011 2:01 PM PDT

AftermathEdit Aftermath sectionEdit

Although the mission was a success and K7-49 would no longer be able to build ships, all three hundred members of Alpha Company were killed in the fighting (other than those handpicked by Franklin Mendez).

There were more than 300 then?

  • 05.02.2011 2:02 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: Halo_G0d
AftermathEdit Aftermath sectionEdit

Although the mission was a success and K7-49 would no longer be able to build ships, all three hundred members of Alpha Company were killed in the fighting (other than those handpicked by Franklin Mendez).

There were more than 300 then?


No. But not all 300 Spartan III's were sent. Evidence of this is that Carter, Jun and Emile were still alive by 2552. Some, those who were handpicked, were removed from the company and put into special operation groups. Ofcourse, this was kept as top secret.

  • 05.02.2011 2:05 PM PDT

Well then now I again have no clue why Kats number is 320...

  • 05.02.2011 2:12 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Or, and this makes more sense, Carter/Emile/Jun were Headhunters and not part of the standard Spartan III company. It was stated the headhunters were trained in secret from the other III's. They're probably the most classified fighters in the UNSC. It makes sense considering that Jun, Carter, and Emile are all much older than the rest of the Company(which was specifically stated to be made up of 4, 5, and 6 year old children.)

I'd also like to believe Six was a headhunter as well. However, after Ackerson failed to get his hands on Tom, he dipped into the Headhunter pool and pulled Six out to be "his private grim reaper."

Kat was pulled from Cartwheel, which means she was a standard Beta Spartan, and not a headhunter. This also explains why Kat and Six have virtually no chemistry. Had they grown up and trained together, there would be more of an attachment. But based on the game, Kat and Six might as well be from different companies.


  • 05.02.2011 2:14 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Halo_G0d
Well then now I again have no clue why Kats number is 320...


Alpha Company originally started with 400+ Candidates, and was then cut to 300.

Beta Company was the same way. There was more than 300 candidates, (for example. There was 400 possible kids for Beta company. They were all assigned a number. Then, 100 of those kids were cut from the program. Only 300 kids are left, but their numbers range up to 400.)

  • 05.02.2011 2:17 PM PDT


Posted by: privet caboose
Alpha Company originally started with 400+ Candidates, and was then cut to 300.

Beta Company was the same way. There was more than 300 candidates, (for example. There was 400 possible kids for Beta company. They were all assigned a number. Then, 100 of those kids were cut from the program. Only 300 kids are left, but their numbers range up to 400.)

Ah, thank you. That clears up a lot.

  • 05.02.2011 2:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: privet caboose
Or, and this makes more sense, Carter/Emile/Jun were Headhunters and not part of the standard Spartan III company. It was stated the headhunters were trained in secret from the other III's. They're probably the most classified fighters in the UNSC. It makes sense considering that Jun, Carter, and Emile are all much older than the rest of the Company(which was specifically stated to be made up of 4, 5, and 6 year old children.)

I'd also like to believe Six was a headhunter as well. However, after Ackerson failed to get his hands on Tom, he dipped into the Headhunter pool and pulled Six out to be "his private grim reaper."

Kat was pulled from Cartwheel, which means she was a standard Beta Spartan, and not a headhunter. This also explains why Kat and Six have virtually no chemistry. Had they grown up and trained together, there would be more of an attachment. But based on the game, Kat and Six might as well be from different companies.


These were my suspicions too, the lack of relationship between Kat and Six is actually what spurred the thought.

  • 05.02.2011 4:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: privet caboose
Alpha Company originally started with 400+ Candidates, and was then cut to 300.

Beta Company was the same way. There was more than 300 candidates, (for example. There was 400 possible kids for Beta company. They were all assigned a number. Then, 100 of those kids were cut from the program.

Or were they? That seems like a prime "ONI did it" loophole in the making.


[Edited on 05.02.2011 4:35 PM PDT]

  • 05.02.2011 4:35 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Nameless Oracle

Posted by: privet caboose
Alpha Company originally started with 400+ Candidates, and was then cut to 300.

Beta Company was the same way. There was more than 300 candidates, (for example. There was 400 possible kids for Beta company. They were all assigned a number. Then, 100 of those kids were cut from the program.

Or were they? That seems like a prime "ONI did it" loophole in the making.


No, every Spartan class (II, Alpha, Beta, and Gamma) Had more than enough possible candidates. However, each class only had enough funding for a set number of Spartans. So because of the lack of funds, each class had to cut a number of possible candidates.

That's all. No room for "ONI DID IT."

  • 05.02.2011 4:55 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: SubjectNameHere

These were my suspicions too, the lack of relationship between Kat and Six is actually what spurred the thought.


The biggest hole in my theory is how Holland managed to get his hands on Six, if he was supposed to be working under Ackerson.

  • 05.02.2011 4:56 PM PDT