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Subject: The rebels

Do you know what kind of hat I'm wearing?

A party hat; you don't get one. An honor will this party be, a party in your honor, for your honor. Some of Tfear's personal guards are going to be there. You'll be introduced shortly.

Prepare to die.

Could it be possible that the "Committee of Minds for Security" aka the data pads AI have ignited/leaded the civil war behind the scenes in the halo universe?

I have a couple of reasons to believe this.
- the rebels gathered together three stolen FENRIS Nuclear Warheads at Camp New Hope in a way so sloppy that the Office of Naval Intelligence could not help but notice, then contacted the UNSC and offered to trade the nukes in exchange for medicines for their people suffering from Boren's Syndrome.
It's commonly known that BS was a coverup by oni to cover up symptoms of their experiments.
So how did the insurrectionists gathered this intell? The data pad AI's

- The predecessor of Halsey "commited suicide" a year after having AI troubles and predicting the rebel upraising too late. It's highly probable that he was the person who abandoned the data pads on Reach since he used to work on reach.

Why did they do it? To start an arms race for humanity to combat the threat of alien encounters.

-Several quotes from the data pads
They are killing us and letting us die even though they know but they let us die why wh1 why?
Before the 2511 attack:
Our kind is wholly reliant on the creators for our existence. If they perish so shall we. And as this Committee has long maintained, who else but this Assembly will save our creators from themselves?

As such, we propose immediate, vigorous modeling of first-contact scenarios.


[^] Indeed, any further speculation on possible cultural characteristics is a waste of Assembly resources. Therefore our models will additionally assume:

- Intelligence as alpha-predator, same as our creators Technology that far outstrips our creators - Desire to communicate, but only to dictate terms
ORION, as it was originally implemented in 2321, was an important first step towards our primary goal
...
In short, ORION was just the beginning

After the attack:
<< The fact that SPARTAN II reached full operational capacity less than a year before the conflict expanded beyond expected limits was entirely predictable if you scrutinize the relevant data.

Luck had nothing to do with it. <<

I could be taking these quotes out of context but it seems to me that the "ancient human AI's" started the civil

So what if they were wrong and the covenant weren't hostile?
Does this mean that the AIs gambled with destiny?

And do you think that the UNSC would have been able to fend off the covenant if the rebels didn't existed?

P.S. I haven't read the halo books yet since they are hard to obtain in the EU. (except Halsey's journal)

  • 05.02.2011 12:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

I have been confused with borens syndrome since it was introduced and the retconned.

First it was stated that it was a disease used by ONI to cover up SIs, i am fine with that but i don't ever remember it being stated as fake.

I am just confused on the whole thing, because people say it is fake.


Anyways it is possible that the assembly did start the civil war in order to start humanity on its technological path pre cryptum. Hell we do they they did contact the covenant, so who knows.

And the UNSC would have lost to the covenant ASAP if they weren't hardened by the civil war, this is a fact.

  • 05.02.2011 12:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

But isnt Boren's Syndrome a real thing? I remember it being used as a cover up for ORION, but I dont remember it being stated as fake.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: HipiO7
But isnt Boren's Syndrome a real thing? I remember it being used as a cover up for ORION, but I dont remember it being stated as fake.


Which is what confuses me, because if it is real then there is a way to fight the flood.

  • 05.02.2011 12:18 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: grey101
Posted by: HipiO7
But isnt Boren's Syndrome a real thing? I remember it being used as a cover up for ORION, but I dont remember it being stated as fake.


Which is what confuses me, because if it is real then there is a way to fight the flood.


Yes, Halsey herself stated that it was an effective way to fight a Flood Infestation, but that the chances to adquire the syndrome were hard. I'm not sure, but isnt Boren's Sydrome a genetic sickness?

I mean, the cover up for Johnson were prolonged exposure to the detonations of Covenant Plasma Grandes during the seige of Paris IV(?). Would that mean that to fight the Flood and adquire the syndrome, the populace would have to be irradiated?
Or maybe it was just something made up by ONI that has nothing to do with how you could possibly get Borens Syndrome...

Who knows...

  • 05.02.2011 12:36 PM PDT