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Subject: Forerunners vs Ancients


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: Spartan 100

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: Spartan 100
I have a question:
How do the replicators make themselves "immune" to energy based weapons?

They just...are.

Only thing that can affect the bugs is projectile weaponry, which the Forerunners would never think of...

Only thing that can affect the human forms is the Ancient Disruptor tech... which the Forerunners have none of.

They do have many kinds of weapons. The didact's ship alone has thousands of different hand weapons.

And the chances of them having an Anti-Replicator Gun is...nil.


So a twelve guage would pack more punch then a plasma rifle. That's what I'm getting.

So when the Forerunners tear a planet apart, don't you think it might occur to them to use the chunks of rocks as projectiles? We know they have full control over gravity. And what I like about Halo's factions is that they adapt quickly to new scenarios (Flood being the pinnicle of this, Covenant being the opposite). I think that in a span of 3million worlds it'd occur to them to use a giant rock as a projectile.

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I gotta admit, I haven't found any other Alien race in the sci-fi domain powerfull enough to take down the Forerunners.

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Posted by: MasterSin
I gotta admit, I haven't found any other Alien race in the sci-fi domain powerfull enough to take down the Forerunners.

Ascended Ancients could, but that's a whole new can of worms.

Time Lords.
Xeelee.

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But if the Ancients ascended then they wouldn't care about the war. Ascended Ancients would watch the whole galaxy die and not even care.

UNSC has NOVA bomb
SGC has those naquadria bombs

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Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
But if the Ancients ascended then they wouldn't care about the war. Ascended Ancients would watch the whole galaxy die and not even care.

UNSC has NOVA bomb
SGC has those naquadria bombs

UNSC has one NOVA bomb, which could be evaded by putting the whole damn planet out of phase.

  • 05.05.2011 11:14 PM PDT


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
But if the Ancients ascended then they wouldn't care about the war. Ascended Ancients would watch the whole galaxy die and not even care.

UNSC has NOVA bomb
SGC has those naquadria bombs

UNSC has one NOVA bomb, which could be evaded by putting the whole damn planet out of phase.


They had more than one, and they could always make more

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Posted by: otterboyz

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
But if the Ancients ascended then they wouldn't care about the war. Ascended Ancients would watch the whole galaxy die and not even care.

UNSC has NOVA bomb
SGC has those naquadria bombs

UNSC has one NOVA bomb, which could be evaded by putting the whole damn planet out of phase.


They had more than one, and they could always make more

More than one? Quote please. Sounds like that was a one time deal.

Looks like the UNSC and SGC have themselves at MAD.

UNSC could NOVA bomb Earth, SGC could Horizon the UNSC's planets.

  • 05.06.2011 12:42 AM PDT


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: otterboyz

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
But if the Ancients ascended then they wouldn't care about the war. Ascended Ancients would watch the whole galaxy die and not even care.

UNSC has NOVA bomb
SGC has those naquadria bombs

UNSC has one NOVA bomb, which could be evaded by putting the whole damn planet out of phase.


They had more than one, and they could always make more

More than one? Quote please. Sounds like that was a one time deal.

Looks like the UNSC and SGC have themselves at MAD.

UNSC could NOVA bomb Earth, SGC could Horizon the UNSC's planets.


During the battle of installation 5 Cortana asks for a NOVA bomb to be deployed to stop the infection and destroy high charity. this is stated in GoO

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Posted by: MasterSin
I gotta admit, I haven't found any other Alien race in the sci-fi domain powerfull enough to take down the Forerunners.


The Xeelee would -blam!- themselves with laughter at the inferior Forerunners.

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Posted by: MasterSin
I gotta admit, I haven't found any other Alien race in the sci-fi domain powerfull enough to take down the Forerunners.


The Xeelee would -blam!- themselves with laughter at the inferior Forerunners.


Then the downstreamers come in and -blam!- the xeelee from behind:) Seriously i once thought 40k was overpowered but when looking at those uber races above culture level
*shudders*

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Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
But if the Ancients ascended then they wouldn't care about the war. Ascended Ancients would watch the whole galaxy die and not even care.

UNSC has NOVA bomb
SGC has those naquadria bombs

UNSC has one NOVA bomb, which could be evaded by putting the whole damn planet out of phase.

They have more, much like when we thought armor abilitys were " just prototypes" but headhunters use them.

  • 05.06.2011 11:46 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
But if the Ancients ascended then they wouldn't care about the war. Ascended Ancients would watch the whole galaxy die and not even care.

UNSC has NOVA bomb
SGC has those naquadria bombs

UNSC has one NOVA bomb, which could be evaded by putting the whole damn planet out of phase.

They have more, much like when we thought armor abilitys were " just prototypes" but headhunters use them.


Zero proof they ever made any other NOVA bombs.

Didn't Mr. Admiral outright state it was the only one?

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
But if the Ancients ascended then they wouldn't care about the war. Ascended Ancients would watch the whole galaxy die and not even care.

UNSC has NOVA bomb
SGC has those naquadria bombs

UNSC has one NOVA bomb, which could be evaded by putting the whole damn planet out of phase.

They have more, much like when we thought armor abilitys were " just prototypes" but headhunters use them.


Zero proof they ever made any other NOVA bombs.

Didn't Mr. Admiral outright state it was the only one?


Last time i checked he said it was a prototype he didn't say that was the only one they had.

they could have multiple prototypes, other models, earlier versions, etc.

And the fact cortana requested for Delta halo to be NOVA bomb pretty much confirms that they had more than one people.

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Posted by: otterboyz

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: otterboyz

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

UNSC has one NOVA bomb, which could be evaded by putting the whole damn planet out of phase.


They had more than one, and they could always make more

More than one? Quote please. Sounds like that was a one time deal.

Looks like the UNSC and SGC have themselves at MAD.

UNSC could NOVA bomb Earth, SGC could Horizon the UNSC's planets.


During the battle of installation 5 Cortana asks for a NOVA bomb to be deployed to stop the infection and destroy high charity. this is stated in GoO

Yeah, did she know that it had already been spent?

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
But if the Ancients ascended then they wouldn't care about the war. Ascended Ancients would watch the whole galaxy die and not even care.

UNSC has NOVA bomb
SGC has those naquadria bombs

UNSC has one NOVA bomb, which could be evaded by putting the whole damn planet out of phase.

They have more, much like when we thought armor abilitys were " just prototypes" but headhunters use them.


Zero proof they ever made any other NOVA bombs.

Didn't Mr. Admiral outright state it was the only one?

This.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
But if the Ancients ascended then they wouldn't care about the war. Ascended Ancients would watch the whole galaxy die and not even care.

UNSC has NOVA bomb
SGC has those naquadria bombs

UNSC has one NOVA bomb, which could be evaded by putting the whole damn planet out of phase.

They have more, much like when we thought armor abilitys were " just prototypes" but headhunters use them.


Zero proof they ever made any other NOVA bombs.

Didn't Mr. Admiral outright state it was the only one?


Last time i checked he said it was a prototype he didn't say that was the only one they had.

they could have multiple prototypes, other models, earlier versions, etc.

And the fact cortana requested for Delta halo to be NOVA bomb pretty much confirms that they had more than one people.

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
But if the Ancients ascended then they wouldn't care about the war. Ascended Ancients would watch the whole galaxy die and not even care.

UNSC has NOVA bomb
SGC has those naquadria bombs

UNSC has one NOVA bomb, which could be evaded by putting the whole damn planet out of phase.

They have more, much like when we thought armor abilitys were " just prototypes" but headhunters use them.


Zero proof they ever made any other NOVA bombs.

Didn't Mr. Admiral outright state it was the only one?

You will have to explain me why Whitcomb said "novas" and not nova.

And you will also explain me how Earth has novas as Cortana said they should bomb the delta halo system.

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
But if the Ancients ascended then they wouldn't care about the war. Ascended Ancients would watch the whole galaxy die and not even care.

UNSC has NOVA bomb
SGC has those naquadria bombs

UNSC has one NOVA bomb, which could be evaded by putting the whole damn planet out of phase.

They have more, much like when we thought armor abilitys were " just prototypes" but headhunters use them.


Zero proof they ever made any other NOVA bombs.

Didn't Mr. Admiral outright state it was the only one?

You will have to explain me why Whitcomb said "novas" and not nova.

And you will also explain me how Earth has novas as Cortana said they should bomb the delta halo system.

Time it takes to build one NOVA bomb, Tau'ri have Horizons out the butt.
Also, bomb indicates they have to drop it or plant it somewhere on a Tau'ri controlled area. Horizon is easily deployed, jump out of hyperspace, let it fly, jump back in. Bomb can be intercepted and destroyed, same with the Horizon I guess... but the whole putting Earth OUT OF PHASE advantage helps a lot.

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  • 05.06.2011 4:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: w0ppitola
dustin, it seems to me that the previous poll/post was overrun with the other choice of mass effect, here will be a discussion about just the forerunners and alterrans.

Now myself, i firmly believe the ancients will prevail over the forerunners, however it will not be an easy fight,


true... i tend to think that if one accended before the halo array was fired, that you would be able to survive, based mainly on the lore that halo's killed off sentient life, not etherial beings and so such... the ori on the other hand get their power through worship, so they may survive an onslaught between themselves and the forerunners, but would be drastically reduced in power if the forerunners fired the halo's...

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It doesn't matter if the Array would be activated or not, the Ancients have the Replicators.

Imagine if 1 Replicator was unleashed on a Halo, or a Shield World, or even the Ark?

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Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
It doesn't matter if the Array would be activated or not, the Ancients have the Replicators.

Imagine if 1 Replicator was unleashed on a Halo, or a Shield World, or even the Ark?

Dear lord. Replicators on a Shield World... getting the abilities/weapon systems of Onyx sentinels.

Would be satisfying to see 343 Guilty Spark being eaten alive by Replicators...

Never actually realized how Replicators are the bane of most technologically advanced civilizations that use energy weapons.

  • 05.07.2011 10:30 AM PDT

Just pointing out, as far as we know Onyx is the only place with sentinels like that.

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Just pointing out, as far as we know Onyx is the only place with sentinels like that.

From Cryptum we know there are sentinels capable of taking [but sacarificing themselves] shots from the cruisers and specialized sentinels made to combat spacecrafts.
Edit: But no one told me yet how the replicators interact with shields.

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Just pointing out, as far as we know Onyx is the only place with sentinels like that.


And taking it a step further and banking on cryptum 2 to back this up.

We can assume that only the "true" shield worlds are the ones with that type of sentinel.

The versions in halowars might have been used for something similar but different.

  • 05.07.2011 10:35 AM PDT