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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: OrderedComa
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Even the books say that Fred was better than John in nearly every way, it's just that Fred "didn't like the attention". Since John was second place, he got the leader and all that, whilst Fred just led a separate team whenever the Spartan-IIs split up.
When I look at it, each surviving Spartan (and even some of the ones that died) have their own little trait to make themselves stand out from the others.
John had an unbelievable amount of luck.
Fred was also a good leader and soldier, but just didn't like the attention.
Linda was the best sharpshooter.
Kelly was the fastest.
Kurt could 'sense' ambushes and traps by generally having a bad feeling just before it happened. Not to mention that he was a great leader for the Spartan-IIIs.
I'll bet that some other community members can add to that little list, too. Oh, and just to add to your last bit, actually the other Spartan with the "hyper lethal" rating WAS John.
It said he always took second place in their training exercises, never said who he took second to, but I'm inclined to believe that would be John. And it actually does not say that Fred was better, it says he probably could have been better, so we actually don't know if he is or not, because that line is speculation.
All the rest of your post is quite accurate. I will add though that John was most definitely the best leader the SIIs had, there's a reason why he was made leader of all the Spartan IIs and given charge of the best squad.
Could he really have possibly taken first in nearly every challenge, when Halsey specifically says that he wasn't the strongest, fastest, or smartest? You could be right, but I'm not sure how he could when Halsey said that.
I think it's possible, there are more factors than just innate skill in a specific type of contest, just because you have more innate skill at a particular type of combat or attribute does not mean that you will always perform the absolute best all the time, and John did beat everyone on the "playground" on the Spartans first real day of training *shrug*
And plus since we don't exactly know how placing works in the contests they had, so I don't think John can be ruled out of the running at all just because leadership is his only real particular skill. In addition there's the events of the First Trilogy to take into account, we've all seen the caliber of what he did throughout it, I personally think that speaks volumes concerning his skills and I'm not so sure that any other Spartan could have done all of it and survived the whole ordeal. And yes I know John didn't breeze through the First Trilogy with complete ease and no difficulties, it would have been very difficult, yet he still did it all and survived to the very end.