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Subject: Why does no one remember that John isn't an exceptional Spartan?

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In other words im a huge nerd for halo just like someone who is into star was but halo :3

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Everyone may be right or wrong

But no matter what Master chief will always be the face of Halo

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  • 05.26.2011 6:21 PM PDT

Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: ThePredkiller2
I was trying to peacefully argue my point but now you've ruined that.

Argue peacefully?

If we go back and look at what you originally said to me:

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Um, I'm re-reading Fall of Reach and nowhere does it state that this Elite is ten feet tall. I don't know where you're getting this 10 ft. crap but its bull-blam!-.

"I don't know where you're getting this 10 ft. crap but its bull-blam!-."

Your tone was adversarial, uncouth and bigoted. That is not the way to initiate any sort of polite conversation.

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
If you're going to talk to me like a child, then I will talk to you like one,

You are not really talking, just throwing around a lot of swear words and incoherent ramblings. Do not dish out what you cannot take back. And it is ironic to call me childish when the response you gave me was far from laudable. Had I been someone who genuinely got mixed up in their facts your response would be unsettling and embarrassing for them. You don't like it, so don't do it to other people. So take your internet balls of steel and shove them in someone else's face.

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
and don't for a -blam!- second think you are above anyone, for any reason. You are not.

The fact is that you were wrong. Not only that, in your arrogance you began insulting my intelligence and obviously felt it unnecessary to check your facts before doing so otherwise you would have realised you were wrong. I double checked that paragraph before posting originally, so I do not think I am above anyone in admitting that. It is clearly you with the superiority complex.


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. Oh man, you're funny I love you man. You're a real hoot! You know that? Did your mom lean over your shoulder and direct you as you struck the keys? Oh man, that's a real ball-buster right there.

...there is no complex.

  • 05.26.2011 7:07 PM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Keep typing out those fabulous posts of yours dude. You are doing a grand job of demonstrating your maturity level to the other members of this forum, whom I assume you are trying to impress.

Urgh, this is my last response to you. Nothing but an uncouth troll.

  • 05.26.2011 7:31 PM PDT

On hiding dead bodies:
Posted by: Psuedo
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Inside another dead body. It's the last place they'll look
A corpse within a corpse.
CORPSEPTION.
Win.

Posted by: forthnback

Posted by: IBumpElectro
Thats weird...in Halseys journal that came with the Limited edition of reach she writes that there was one spartan that stood out. one that was best at everything Spartan 117.


Which I have in front of me. Right now. I don't seem to recall that being in there, at all. Can you toss me a page number so I can see?
I'm not so sure about that, but in the "A SPARTAN Will Rise" ViDoc, she makes reference to "Hyper-lethal" status, implying being the best.

  • 05.27.2011 1:54 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
Posted by: forthnback

Posted by: IBumpElectro
Thats weird...in Halseys journal that came with the Limited edition of reach she writes that there was one spartan that stood out. one that was best at everything Spartan 117.


Which I have in front of me. Right now. I don't seem to recall that being in there, at all. Can you toss me a page number so I can see?
I'm not so sure about that, but in the "A SPARTAN Will Rise" ViDoc, she makes reference to "Hyper-lethal" status, implying being the best.


I don't really think being Hyper Lethal makes you the best automatically, I mean, you can be a super mega efficient killer and get the hyper lethal rating and still being second or last into several other things.

  • 05.27.2011 1:58 AM PDT

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John was chosen by Cortana, for his skill and his 'luck'

reference Halsey's Journal (Halo reach limited/ lengendary edition)

  • 05.27.2011 5:52 AM PDT

Adepto In Meus Campester
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

Master Chief performed exceptional feats. The real argument here is, would any other Spartans perform equally well or better than him in the tasks that he did on Installation 4 and 5.

It also hinges on other theories, such as MC's "luck" actually being remnants of a Forerunner geas, which so far is supported by Guilty Spark's cryptic "You are Forerunner" comment, among others. However, it can also be dismissed as Bear's concept of the geas was most likely an independent creation, as interviews have shown that he was mostly given a beginning and an end for the Forerunner saga, and much of the in-between was his own creation. That would prevent the possible "overall scheme of things" idea behind the theory, which would involve a collaboration between the writers of GS's dialogue and Greg Bear.

  • 05.27.2011 6:27 AM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Lord Slade
Master Chief performed exceptional feats. The real argument here is, would any other Spartans perform equally well or better than him in the tasks that he did on Installation 4 and 5.

I would expect someone like Fred or Six to be able to survive on Alpha Halo and The Ark, but I put more money on Six because of his record as an individual. Cool theory about the geas though

  • 05.27.2011 6:32 AM PDT

READ IT.

I won the Star. With this on Week 18.

John had luck.

Luck beats everything.

  • 05.27.2011 7:04 AM PDT

Adepto In Meus Campester
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Lord Slade
Master Chief performed exceptional feats. The real argument here is, would any other Spartans perform equally well or better than him in the tasks that he did on Installation 4 and 5.

I would expect someone like Fred or Six to be able to survive on Alpha Halo and The Ark, but I put more money on Six because of his record as an individual. Cool theory about the geas though

Noble 6 is not canon though.

  • 05.27.2011 7:23 AM PDT


Posted by: Lord Slade
Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Lord Slade
Master Chief performed exceptional feats. The real argument here is, would any other Spartans perform equally well or better than him in the tasks that he did on Installation 4 and 5.

I would expect someone like Fred or Six to be able to survive on Alpha Halo and The Ark, but I put more money on Six because of his record as an individual. Cool theory about the geas though

Noble 6 is not canon though.


What official source says that?

  • 05.27.2011 8:08 AM PDT

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Old GTs; RebelRobot, Flamedude

Yeah since when is Six not canon?

  • 05.27.2011 8:09 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Lord Slade
Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Lord Slade
Master Chief performed exceptional feats. The real argument here is, would any other Spartans perform equally well or better than him in the tasks that he did on Installation 4 and 5.

I would expect someone like Fred or Six to be able to survive on Alpha Halo and The Ark, but I put more money on Six because of his record as an individual. Cool theory about the geas though

Noble 6 is not canon though.


What official source says that?


As far as I know there isn't one. Maybe he's thinking that because we have complete control over Six's gender, appearance, and back story other than what Bungie has already given? I know the character Noble Six is canon though, that is definite.

  • 05.27.2011 9:29 AM PDT


Posted by: OrderedComa
As far as I know there isn't one. Maybe he's thinking that because we have complete control over Six's gender, appearance, and back story other than what Bungie has already given? I know the character Noble Six is canon though, that is definite.


Lord Slade, as far as I can tell, is one of those guys so set against Reach that means it's automatically not canon.

  • 05.27.2011 10:02 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

Saying that Six is non canon is lame as hell.

Both Bungie and 343 view him as canon,if you disagree then you disagree with all of Halo.

It's just like the same guys who say Cryptum isn't canon cause they don't like it .

  • 05.27.2011 10:14 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

He wasn't faster then Kelly at ANY point during training. If you are talking to the first playground episode that is because he was a dumbass and ditched his team.

You basically said "Master Chief is an 'average' Spartan." when you went "He's a symbol for what a Spartan can do!"

Also, I personally believe there was a slight bias when Cortana picked, due to being made from Halsey's brain and Halsey liking chief the best.

you really dont want give MC any credit do you? Every posy from you i read it looks like for some reason your just putting him down. I dont necessarily disagree with you but man the negativity toward the MC is annoying. Could another Spartan including N6 have done what he did... yea some of them probably but cant we all agree that the MC is at least in the top 5 if not the top 10? also just because another Spartan could have done what he did dosent mean that what MC did in the games was any less epic.

[Edited on 05.27.2011 12:15 PM PDT]

  • 05.27.2011 12:09 PM PDT

If you didn't notice, I do agree Master Chief was among the best.

Most of the time if I come off as putting him down, it's in response to people putting him far to highly, almost god-like.

  • 05.27.2011 12:23 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
If you didn't notice, I do agree Master Chief was among the best.

Most of the time if I come off as putting him down, it's in response to people putting him far to highly, almost god-like.


Ok I can accept that just making sure that we dont forget that MC is not just mediocre among the Spartans. O and I didnt mean any disrespect Faron just want MC to get some credit thats all.

  • 05.27.2011 12:30 PM PDT


Posted by: SCmustang

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
If you didn't notice, I do agree Master Chief was among the best.

Most of the time if I come off as putting him down, it's in response to people putting him far to highly, almost god-like.


Ok I can accept that just making sure that we dont forget that MC is not just mediocre among the Spartans. O and I didnt mean any disrespect Faron just want MC to get some credit thats all.


None taken lol. Whether he is the best is up for debate, but as long as nobody makes any one spartan sound god-like, I'm cool.

  • 05.27.2011 12:38 PM PDT

*reminisces when the Bungie/Halo community wasn't made up of CoD kids*
*sighs*
*activates time-machine and sets the clock back to Nov. 9, 2004*
glory days here I come..
*vanishes*

Master Chief is the luckiest. Also SIIs>SIIIs so technically Master Chief>Noble 6.

  • 05.27.2011 12:48 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: lord of dahorde
Master Chief is the luckiest. Also SIIs>SIIIs so technically Master Chief>Noble 6.


Another ignorant member -_-

  • 05.27.2011 12:51 PM PDT

Jesus loves you! But I think you're a -blam!-

"But you had something they didn't. Something no one saw but me. Luck."

  • 05.27.2011 1:07 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: HerSeksBiscuit
"But you had something they didn't. Something no one saw but me. Luck."


And yet again, people use that quote, what is this, the 109th time in this thread?

  • 05.27.2011 1:08 PM PDT