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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Hence why Coma's the main person who views Chief as best that I can name who I respect. She says her views, gives her reasons, and respects my opinion and viewpoints about it.
Aaaw, thanks ^_^ Now I feel all special *hugs* :P
Posted by: UNOCK
You're all missing the point about Master Chief.
Master Chief took a bomb out Cairo Station, put it in a Covenant Capital Ship and blew it up.
Luck, right? Or was it skill...
When Master Chief caught Halsey's coin, and guessed the right side... it was luck, right? Or was it skill...
That's the whole POINT of Master Chief and his miracles (because they're nothing short. You all played Halo: CE - Halo 3) It's only defined as "luck" in Halo: 3, and that could be because Cortana has no other word for it. She can't pick up on the subtleties that shows it's actually skill, or she could know for a fact that it's all planned and happens because the Master Chief knows how to, but chooses to call it "luck" simply because that's how Cortana is.
For all you idiots wondering who is better, chief or Noble 6... play the freaking games. In the end, Noble 6 failed his/her mission, the Master Chief had a hand in ending the Human - Covenant war, defeating the flood, and preventing the Halo Array from being fired.
Noble 6 died on Reach.
If you ask me who would win in a fight between Noble 6 and Master Chief, I'd say it'd be a good tie. But Noble 6 was a grunt, and John was the leader of the Spartan II's.
I think you raise a good point in that first part of your pot UNOCK. I think there's a fine line between what is just pure and lucky chance with Chief, and what is just skill. And I think "luck" is something that can in a sense be tangible and measured, it may not actually be luck, that may just be the word that best describes it because no one really knows what precisely it is. A line in Cryptum really struck home the first time I read it, but I didn't remember it. The Didact makes a remark about the Librarian "Luck is her way" is what he says. That tells me that there is some force or providence or whatever that can't really be described except as Luck.
And then you lose it UNOCK. Noble Six didn't fail anything, in fact she succeeded in her mission. Her final mission was to get the fragment of Cortana from Halsey's lab safely to the Autumn and to make sure that the ship got away safely. Both of those succeeded. So Six didn't fail anything.
If she and John had their places exchanged, then everything in the Trilogy would have still happened, the end results would be the same because Six and John are completely equal.
And lots of SIIs died on Reach, that doesn't make them any worse than anyone who did survive. Chief would have died on Reach too if he had been in Six's position.
Noble Six was not some grunt, she's exactly the same as any Spartan II, otherwise she wouldn't have been pulled from Beta Company before Operation TORPEDO.