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Subject: Halo vs Star Wars. Who wins?

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

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Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
not this rubbish about Turbo-lasers and how they are unfathomably powerful! why must it always come down to this, they are not that potent, they just aren't! to gauge the destruction that a single shot from a standard 'light' MAC on a Frigate (light because of short barrel length!) would cause, you have to look at the devastation caused in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, then multiply it by around four or more. also its perfectly feasible due to the fact they are just mass moving at high velocity, similar to an asteroid or comet strike! then on the other side of the spectrum, these lasers that Star Wars-ers are claiming are 'four times as powerful' seem to do NOTHING! to whatever it is they are hitting, a perfect example of how weak Star Wars lasers are, watch Episode III the battle at the beginning the Venator broadsiding the Invisible Hand, all those 'four times as powerful as MAC' weapons do is put a couple of holes in the side of the ship and knock a few clone troopers around! put a MAC round in that same space and you'll loose half the ship, guaranteed! sorry but the Star Wars argument has no substance in that respect at all, neither do these shields that can stop three super MAC rounds yet the presumably very very strong shields of the Executor cannot stop a humble A-wing from colliding with the bridge, totalling it! a MAC round has more mass than an A-wing and since it is just a solid lump of matter it will have the exact same effect on the shield, complete penetration.

to further add to how the argument has no substance, these exact same 'shields' and all there monumental inconsistency earlier stop numerous asteroid strikes, while navigating an asteroid field. how is it that they can stop asteroids (rock and metal) and they can't stop a simple fighter (metal and some other stuff), hence how there is no argument since the shields don't behave in a consistent manner throughout the movies, one second they stop matter, the next (because of plot!) magically don't stop matter.


um, I'm sorry, but those were two WARSHIPS pounding each other. As in, their shields and armor plating was DESIGNED to take the pounding from the turbolasers.

You want proof? Ep1 actually. A hanger bay gun turns, and destroys the diplomatic ship (Which had next to no armor, and no shields up) in a single shot. If it had fired upon a similar sized ship, only with military grade armor? Results would probably be different.


Yes, the armor plating is ddesigned to tank warship shells.

Here's the problem: In Ep. III we see a few of the Hand's rounds strike a direct hit on a Venator gun battery. A few of the clones get caught in the explosion. I can garuntee you that shell did not hit with the force of a nuke. Those clones were not vaporized by flames that consumed them. They WERE killed, but not vaporized like they should have been.

Or howabout when the Venator detonates the Hand's loading magazine for one of its guns? No collosal super explosion occured when the energy cells in the magazine exploded. It looked more like a modern day explosion with modern explosives.

Or when a turbolaser landed a direct hit on a droid in Ep I, the droid got obliterated, but not vaporized. If those guns were nuke cannons, the droid shouldn't even had time to scream.

Or when an Executor SSD turbolaser destroyed an X-Wing in Ep VI, the X-Wing (a titanium-built fighter) was not vaporized. It did fly apart (it WAS a warship weapon) but there were still sizable pieces left.

Or when the first X-Wing pilot was killed on the Death Star raid in Ep. IV by a turbolaser. Should have been vaporized, but he wasn't.

I can keep going, if I had the time, but I need to leave for now. Case in point, the movies contradict the EU so many times in terms of the power of these guns its laughable.

Face it, they're not that strong. They are numerous however, so they're still dangerous, but not in strength.


First off, The invisible hand is made out of neutronium alloys and other fictional, unfathomably powerful materials with unknown properties. The weapons affects on the armour mean nothing beyond getting an idea of how strong the armour is and it's capability to channel and deflect heat and kinetic force. It is no indication of how strong the weapons are.

Also you are thinking a Nuclear explosion in space looks the same as it does in an atmosphere, it doesn't, you are also assuming that Teratons of energy MUST be released in the same manner of a nuke, again they don't. The use of Teratons is just there to get an idea of how much energy is being thrown around in a small space.

Also the Executor's bridge shields were already DOWN when the A-Wing crashed into it, as a result of the Rebel capital ships bombarding it with their own heavy turbolasers. (consider this series of events, quoted from the film)

Admiral Ackbar:"We've got to give those fighters more time, concentrate all fire on that super star destroyer"

Two A-Wings strafe the port com/scan globe, firing multiple shots before it finally blows as the shields drop from Ackbar's fleet barage.

Bridge Officer:"Sir we've lost our bridge deflector shield!"

Admiral Piett: "Intensify fire on the forward batteries, I don't want anything to get through!"

We see an A-Wing spinning out of control and an X-Wing get vapourized from a side shot

Commander Gherant points at the distant, careening A-Wing

Arvel Crynyd Screams as he struggles to aim the A-Wing at Executor's bridge.

Admiral Piet: "INTENSIFY FORWARD FIREPOWER!!!"

Commander Gherant:"TOO LATE!"

They dive to the crew pit but that clearly isn't enough to save them, Executor's engines misfire into the Death Star 2's Surface before the backup bridge can regain control.

  • 05.12.2011 3:55 PM PDT

For every one who's talking about the "invincible" Precursors consider this- the Precursors were defeated by the weaker Forerunners, the Forerunners killed them selves because they were about to lose to the flood. the UNSC defeated the flood AND the covenant even though the covenant and flood were stronger. So if Star Wars is better than the UNSC, Star Wars basically beats everything else.

Now if you think the Halo's would win, listen here- it takes 7 Halo's to wipe out the Halo galaxy. to achieve the same with the Star Wars galaxy, the Forerunners would have to move at LEAST 7 new Halo's to the Star Wars galaxy because it only affects one galaxy at a time.

Now if you think the Flood would win hear this- Star Wars has a GALAXY full of scientists and when faced with a common threat they would band together and create a virus to destroy the flood and just to say, the Kaminoans were probably good enough to create the virus single handily.

And even if you say Halo ships are stronger think about this- A super MAC shot (Cairo station) emits around 9 teratons of energy per shot and this MAC can piece a covenant cruiser in one shot. A standard Star Wars Acclamator shields can absorb 19 TERATONS of energy, plus they have a heavy turbolaser under the ship similar to a glassing laser but stronger. So it would take at least 2 instantaneous MAC shots at the same time to even pierce a SMALL Star Wars cruisers shields and their turrets emit over 200 gigatons of energy PER SHOT and they can fire over 200 in a minute.

Now just to give you a feel of the Empires power, the Empire has construed over 20 different super weapons one such is the Suncrusher. it has the ability to create black holes and destroy entire star systems and the ship is basically indestructible with the ability to not be destroyed even in a black hole. so even if our virus doesn't destroy the Flood we would just black hole every infected system.

Now at its peak, the Covenant had over 12000 ships, JUST the Empire has MILLIONS of starcraft. The Empires storm troopers outnumber the UNSC AND the Covenant at about 250-to-1. The Infinite Empire would be more than a match for the Forerunners and i have observed many similarities such as the ability to terraform worlds and create massive star ships and both have VERY powerful technology. There is also a match to the Precursors. The Celestials. They are such a massive power in Star Wars that they left the main galaxy to conquer others. They also left behind massive indestructible structures and artifacts of there existence. Also there are multiple galaxy's full of other Star Wars life forms such as the Silentium, Abominor and yuuzhan vong which ENGINEER their own nasty infections that are worse than the flood and create massive ships out that are LIVING.

Now ground forces. Star Wars would win in this category too. with MILLIONS OF DEIGNS AND MILLIONS OF EACH OF THOSE DESIGNS we pretty much have Halo destroyed. I know there are Spartans but we have many more Jedi, Sith and commandos that have shields and are on par with Spartans. Plus THE FORCE!!!! Nothing can destroy the Force and it can destroy everything!!!

And also think of the hundreds of different species in Star Wars such as the Gurlanins which can shapeshift into anything and also don't forget different dimensions like Waren who got teleported here from a different dimension and returned to his shortly after being keep in the main galaxy.

Now to tie up loose ends- the Celestials had teleporters. A performer in the Empire era had a teleporter and he used it in his many performances. Lightsabers can block bullets and can cut through Spartans and everything else. the Sith would probably mind influence the UNSC and Covenant soldiers to be on our team and don't forget how we have brilliant tacticians such as Emperor Palpatine / Chancellor Palpatine, he would simply assassinate the UNSC and Covenant leaders and replace them with Gurlanins and manipulate there sides to ultimately destroy them. So basically Halo loses. nuff said-Red Bot 6


EDIT-----Oh yea and another thing people say Precursors ships/tech is indestructible well only to the Halo universe! what about Star Wars? Celestial tech was "Indestructible" but who knows? maybe Star Wars finds it easy to destroy the Precursors because there is no proof that anything in Halo is indestructible to Star Wars and likewise. also the Empire would just use the Galaxy gun to destroy the Halos and the Ark from a distance and they wouldn't be able to prepare because they cant see into hyperspace. The Force would affect the Haloverse because it links EVERYTHING!!

[Edited on 05.16.2011 4:15 PM PDT]

  • 05.15.2011 1:46 PM PDT

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Red Bot 6, No.
We don't even know how the forerunner-precusor war happened.
The flood during the forerunners were more powerfull and had Mendicant on their side plus possibly a precursor. What the UNSC and covenant encountered was small and they were pretty localized.

  • 05.15.2011 2:38 PM PDT

High charity itself has no weaponry. But it is surrounded by half the damn covenant fleet

  • 05.15.2011 5:52 PM PDT

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Did any one else see the pre-alpha halo vs star wars game?

  • 07.08.2011 9:21 PM PDT

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Depends. Is Cheif the only Spartan left to fight?

  • 07.08.2011 9:22 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 100
Did any one else see the pre-alpha halo vs star wars game?
Have it, talked with the creator, said it was strictly non-canon and wanted to make it a fair game knowing the Empire would obliterate the Covenant.

EDIT: Oh god, why did you guys have to bump it!

[Edited on 07.08.2011 9:31 PM PDT]

  • 07.08.2011 9:31 PM PDT

Watch This.

Star Wars FTW!

  • 07.08.2011 9:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101

Posted by: Spartan 100
Did any one else see the pre-alpha halo vs star wars game?
Have it, talked with the creator, said it was strictly non-canon and wanted to make it a fair game knowing the Empire would obliterate the Covenant.

EDIT: Oh god, why did you guys have to bump it!

Pretty obvious it's non-canon but it's fun. Except it's so laggy. Fighters are a bit too hard to kill. A zoom out feature would be cool but it's only pre-alpha.

And I necroed this thread so spice this place up a bit. I need to get my mind off of something and this might be a good distraction.

  • 07.08.2011 9:39 PM PDT

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Star wars. Deathstar blows ur planet up before u are able to react. LOL

  • 07.08.2011 9:41 PM PDT

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It seems to me that Star Wars has many stories about the Skywalker family, which is more like a family saga than a huge sci-fi universe, but I'm not a huge fan of Star Wars, so I can't say much except the movies were great.

  • 07.08.2011 10:33 PM PDT

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  • 07.08.2011 10:37 PM PDT
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THE FORCE vs a cybernetic solider? sorry force wins everytime force push, pull, choke, lightning, and not mention the light sabers that cut through any thing.

  • 07.08.2011 10:42 PM PDT

Death Star beats ships, death star beats planets, Death Star beats Master Chief, Death star Beats everything

  • 07.08.2011 10:51 PM PDT

That Creator would be me :D, lol any ways, as for the new features with the game

Lag = Fixed
Zoom Feature = Fixed
8 Maps

ect lots of new content

oh and you can now play as the covies and CIS and have many battle options like

UNSC/REPS VS UNSC/REPS
UNSC/REPS VS COVIES/CIS
COVIES/CIS VS UNSC/REPS
COVIES/CIS VS COVIES/CIS

also you can choose how much money you start off with, how much the enemy starts with, your unit population cap 20 - 400(YES 400 XD) and the enemys pop cap


all in all ALOT OF NEW STUFF in v1.0.0.1

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  • 07.08.2011 11:10 PM PDT

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Don't think spartans can dodge the force.

  • 07.08.2011 11:14 PM PDT

Halo is great, but Star Wars is legendary. So yes, Star Wars by far. This isn't even a contest.

  • 07.08.2011 11:39 PM PDT

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This batch of people aren't as calculative as the other parts.
Do you guys think that the buffer fields could be used as weapons? Getting close to an enemy ship and using the buffer fields to wreck havok on the enemy, do you think that's possible?

  • 07.08.2011 11:45 PM PDT

also the advantage star wars does have is hyperspace what they could simply do is, get a small fighter and get it to hyperspace into an enemy cruiser, now physics in motion here even a small object like a fighter could vapourise a 21 km cruiser if it hit it at hyperspeed which is several times the speed of light.

  • 07.09.2011 12:13 AM PDT

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I haven't heard of that tactic being used a lot.

Speaking about hyperspace, wouldn't slipstream, atleast UNSC wise, cause a disruption with hyperspace? The UNSC slipstream wise seems to create a micro black hole.

  • 07.09.2011 12:17 AM PDT

with slip space, theoretically speaking, fractures spacetime, there fore yes it would distrupt hyperspace but, they would have to be entering slip space to cause that effect, so just ram them at the right time aka the middle of the battle :D

  • 07.09.2011 12:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan 100
I haven't heard of that tactic being used a lot.

Speaking about hyperspace, wouldn't slipstream, atleast UNSC wise, cause a disruption with hyperspace? The UNSC slipstream wise seems to create a micro black hole.


The UNSC and/or Covenant could do the same strategy, using Frigates as suicide bombers. By the way, most fighters in Star Wars can't use hyperspace on their own, they need those jump stations scattered in space, only advanced models have hyperdrives installed.

Other thing, gravity negates them a chance of using it, as the hyperdrive shuts down and either doesn't initiates hyperspace travel or takes the ship out of it depending on the situation. This is often exploited by pirates who use this specific restriction to board ships, preventing them from escaping.

With that being said, I think it's unfair to have the UNSC/Covenant Empire against the Star Wars universe, seeing how their technology has hundreds of thousands of years worth of use and development. (Hyperspace travel was used as far as 1,000,000 BBY by the Celestials)

  • 07.09.2011 12:36 AM PDT

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That would require extreme precision and it would be hard as space is very big not to mention that they can move a lot. Isn't it impossible to recieve information in hyperspace? I think it's possible in slipstream if I recall correctly. I also think that a buffer field on a massive scale could potentially stop hyperspace travel in a sector.

  • 07.09.2011 12:38 AM PDT

in the movies ships hyperspaced directly in front of there position, i dont think it would be to hard for them to hit a target that was 1 km long, and yes communication is possible in hyperspace

  • 07.09.2011 1:00 AM PDT

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In a large space? It's still hard. Also it would probably just be for dramtization. I don't think they would be sitting ducks in space.

  • 07.09.2011 1:11 AM PDT