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Posted by: Tookurdignity
I agree with this, but given that a Spartan has reflexes on par with a Jedi/Sith and the ability to fight in any environment I would say a Spartan has the ability to beat a Jedi/Sith.
Oh I agree they have the ability, so long as a few things go right for the Spartan they should be able to take down an average Jedi Knight (not sure there really is such a thing as an average Jedi, given they all seem stronger/weaker in different areas of the Force) without too much of a problem.
The biggest variable is really the Jedi Knight, some are lousy in combat while others are incredibly deadly, some don't even have TK abilities while some can throw starships around.
The reasoning for this is because a Jedi/Sith, to use their force powers, has concentrate on the force and, if using a wide effect area force power, stop and concentrate harder.
It's not like a spell, they don't have to stand there and chant a mantra or anything, it requires a bit of concentration but isn't crippling. The Jedi Knight's training/combat experience would be the deciding factor on whether thay panic or not, or stand around making a target of themselves.
A Spartan wouldn't stop in the midst of battle knowing their enemy is doing something just to see what happens. A Spartan wouldn't relent in the attack and thus makes the jedi dependant upon their lightsaber which would tire them after a while thus giving the Spartan an opportunity for a deathblow.
If it's got to the point where the Jedi is cornered, standing in the one spot, purely defending, then the Jedi has already lost. Unless they are really really lucky or good (in which case why did they get themselves in that situation?).
A waiting gme would technically favour the Jedi, he has the Force to give him stamina and strength, and doesn't have to worry about running out of ammo, but I doubt any confrontation would last that long.
If the Spartans lay up an ambush (as well they might) and if the Jedi doesn't get a bad feeling about it and avoid the trap, then they pretty much have it in the bag. Best way to kill a Jedi is to take him by surprise, it's just hard to do that when they get occasional glimpses of the future and have as danger sense that often warns them off.
Invidualt combatants would effect the field of battle. In a battle you have a team that fights initally in a skirmish or first contact, a company would feed said team with reinforcements and/or send a company or multiple companies to the threat to neutralize.
With respect, you are missing my point.
If you have lost orbit you have effectively lost the world, in SW it is reasonable to resist for a few days as due to the high speed of Hyperdrives you could have a friendly fleet move to reinforce you in days or maybe even hours.
Whoever controls orbit has invulnerable spotters and artillery, as well as de-facto air superiority, any army that doesn't either go to insurgency-style hit and fade skirmishes, or hide out among the locals must surrender or be wiped out.
Even with a guerrilla war/insurgency tactics setup you do little real damage and stand to lose a lot of men (ask the Taliban...)
This kind of war depends primarily on fleet strategic victories, and logistics, not individual Spartans/Jedi.
Individual stats of an average Jedi and Spartan play heavily in the outcome of battle. Now if a Jedi Master, someone of Yoda's adeptability in the force, went against a Spartan in single combat then yes my model would be highly insufficient.
Agreed, while all Spartans are highly trained for war all Jedi are not. There are Jedi that would be so much swiss cheese against a Spartan, and Jedi that could probably take on several at once. Very variable.
But your statement on the numbers of Jedi, most of those would be younglings and padawan level jedi, then you have Jedi knights, then you have the council of masters which totaled up to twelve, if that many.
Most would be Knights, as that's the 'rank' most Jedi would be for the majority of their lives.
There are more than twelve masters, you have to be a master to serve on the Council, but being on the Council isn't a prerequisit to being a Master.
It also doesn't really reflect combat ability, it's just a measure of someone's understanding of the Force and position in the Order.
I mean a Knight who has seen a lot of combat is going to be a better warrior than a Master who has studied ancient Jedi literature in the Couruscant libraries for the last twenty years.