Bungie Universe
This topic has moved here: Subject: Halo vs Star Wars. Who wins?
  • Subject: Halo vs Star Wars. Who wins?
Subject: Halo vs Star Wars. Who wins?




And Yes IMO, I'd rather Darth Nihlius's way over your slagging the entire contenient.[/quote]
Pure brute strength beats ninjas.

I don't even like what the Forerunners have become. [Forerunners = National Socialists in space]

But still. Small Forerunner battalion = melted/fragmented planet.

The Forerunners win ground battles, at least concede that.


Incorrect, Force users weren't ninjas as you incorrectly label them as such, and now that it has come down to all force users vs Forerunners, Force users have the advantage.

From what we know of the force, they can literally rip a planet in chunks. And no matter what kind of armor they're wearing the Forerunners would have their life force sucked away by force users like Sion or the Jedi Exile, and if you try to kill sith like Darth Sion then well...they're screwed anyway.


[Edited on 05.05.2011 11:05 AM PDT]

  • 05.05.2011 11:01 AM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=35882609&v iewreplies=true&postRepeater1-p=167

*Coming in for landing*

Oh, gods dammit. -blam!- this.

*Turns around*

Star Wars.

*Takes off*

  • 05.05.2011 11:07 AM PDT


Posted by: BullHorn
*Coming in for landing*

Oh, gods dammit. -blam!- this.

*Turns around*

Star Wars.

*Takes off*


A good example of a Forerunners reaction.

  • 05.05.2011 11:09 AM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=35882609&v iewreplies=true&postRepeater1-p=167

*looks over shoulder at thread that is rapidly burning*

I'd take that as a compliment, if the Forerunners didn't de-evolve us and effectively make us slaves.


Halo has some good things, like certain characters and events and such, but Star Wars pretty much invented the hardcore Sci-Fi universe.

*kick in afterburners*
Star Wars/Halo for the most part.

  • 05.05.2011 11:19 AM PDT


Posted by: BullHorn
*looks over shoulder at thread that is rapidly burning*

I'd take that as a compliment, if the Forerunners didn't de-evolve us and effectively make us slaves.


Halo has some good things, like certain characters and events and such, but Star Wars pretty much invented the hardcore Sci-Fi universe.

*kick in afterburners*
Star Wars/Halo for the most part.


*Sprays water onto the thread.* Aye, the thread also de-evolved into bias opinions near the end.

Hopefully it's over.

  • 05.05.2011 11:24 AM PDT

Flood's and Universe's Warhammer 40k fanatic and the one who knows much about it.

I also like House Stark and winter, hurr.


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

I say you should provide proof that this could happen.




I will provide articles on wookieepedia about Font of Power and Pool of knowledge.

The information they provide are proof enough for me to say that Sith or Jedi could accomplish destruction of haloverse.

//sidenote// This hasnt happened in SW, but theorically is is possible, if Sith or jedi is affected by PoK and FoP.

  • 05.05.2011 11:27 AM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=35882609&v iewreplies=true&postRepeater1-p=167

*engines backfire, sending my ship into the thread*
-blam!-

I guess not.

Posted by: teekuppi

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

I say you should provide proof that this could happen.




I will provide articles on wookieepedia about Font of Power and Pool of knowledge.

The information they provide are proof enough for me to say that Sith or Jedi could accomplish destruction of haloverse.

//sidenote// This hasnt happened in SW, but theorically is is possible, if Sith or jedi is affected by PoK and FoP.


I agree, both of those things appear to give infinite power to those who "use" them (i have no idea where those came from, I don't read the SW books). I agree, SW force users would pound the hell out of Forerunners. With that in mind...


Forerunners have the tech. The can use literal LIGHT to make weapons, all they need are the ri ght frames to make said weapon. They also have gene manipulation, combat armor that is speculated to be 12 times more powerful than Mark VI Mjolnir armor, and a weapons system that simultaneously scans and eliminates life-forms of the proper mass. The greatest thing SW has in terms of destructive/protective tech is the Death Star, which was promtly destroyed by two missles, per version.

(Like I said, I don't read the books, so I have no -blam!- clue what the Eclipse or Executor is, other than what I got from the mods of Empire at War)

  • 05.05.2011 11:35 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: teekuppi

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

I say you should provide proof that this could happen.




I will provide articles on wookieepedia about Font of Power and Pool of knowledge.

The information they provide are proof enough for me to say that Sith or Jedi could accomplish destruction of haloverse.

//sidenote// This hasnt happened in SW, but theorically is is possible, if Sith or jedi is affected by PoK and FoP.


How does drinking a pool that gives you everything you want to know of SW universe history a victory against Halo?

And about limitless powers,in what?

Regardless even if all Sith gain their full potential power,the Forerunner will still stomb them hard.

To the one saying sweeping isn't the same as slaging,what else do you think it is?

It's just another word for destroying or slag a continent.Just like weaping a city away with a nuke.And then there is another quote where the Forerunner ground assets teared the crust of a planet apart.

Halo Cryptum pg 197:

The atmosphere below was a swirling soup of smoke and fire.Warrior craft and automated weapon systems were mostly to small to be visible,but i saw their effects-darting beams of needle light,glowing arcs cutting across continents,gigantic,stamblike divots punched into the crust and then lifted up,spun about,overturned.I had never seen anything like this-but the Didact had.


Later Faber said to Born that they were standing on what was left of the planet.And this wasn't even orbital bombardement.

Forerunners navy weapons were far powerful then the autumns detonation,it's detonation had a yield of 10 petaton,read the other thread about best super ancient race to find my post about it...that's far more firepower then star wars can throw around(excluding superweapons)





  • 05.05.2011 11:44 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship

Seriously, stop now.

  • 05.05.2011 12:00 PM PDT

Flood's and Universe's Warhammer 40k fanatic and the one who knows much about it.

I also like House Stark and winter, hurr.


Posted by: hotshot revan II


How does drinking a pool that gives you everything you want to know of SW universe history a victory against Halo?

And about limitless powers,in what?





it was said to offer limitless power.



And I strongly believe that those powers are force based, even though quote doesnt tell it. FoP is in force realm and is tainted by dark side of the force, so what else's power it would give? Also, I've heard people saying on SD.net that those powers are force based.


Posted by: hotshot revan II


Regardless even if all Sith gain their full potential power,the Forerunner will still stomb them hard.




Limitless power is greater power then forerunner's weaponry. Forerunner's weaponry is limited to certain amount of power/destructibility. In short: limitless power > limited power.

And how are Forerunner's going to beat force sensitives inside 'Beyond shadows', if they dont actually know its existence?

Edit: Bullhorn has coolest thread comebacks in Bungie forums!

[Edited on 05.05.2011 12:28 PM PDT]

  • 05.05.2011 12:15 PM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=35882609&v iewreplies=true&postRepeater1-p=167


Posted by: teekuppi

Posted by: hotshot revan II


How does drinking a pool that gives you everything you want to know of SW universe history a victory against Halo?

And about limitless powers,in what?





it was said to offer limitless power.



And I strongly believe that those powers are force based, even though quote doesnt tell it. FoP is in force realm and is tainted by dark side of the force, so what else's power it would give? Also, I've heard people saying on SD.net that those powers are force based.


Posted by: hotshot revan II


Regardless even if all Sith gain their full potential power,the Forerunner will still stomb them hard.




Limitless power is greater power then forerunner's weaponry. Forerunner's weaponry is limited to certain amount of power/destructibility. In short: limitless power > limited power.

And how are Forerunner's going to beat force sensitives inside 'Beyond shadows', if they dont actually know its existence?

Exactly, how do you defend against something that has a non-physical connection to EVERY FREAKIN OBJECT? Yes, light is not an object, but the armor, ships, and people are. You can't stop a non-physical attack except by something non-physical. I'm fairly sure that the Forerunners don't have anything like that.

Edit: Bullhorn has coolest thread comebacks in Bungie forums!


Thanks! Wait.......which forums?

  • 05.05.2011 12:41 PM PDT

Flood's and Universe's Warhammer 40k fanatic and the one who knows much about it.

I also like House Stark and winter, hurr.


Posted by: BullHorn


Exactly, how do you defend against something that has a non-physical connection to EVERY FREAKIN OBJECT? Yes, light is not an object, but the armor, ships, and people are. You can't stop a non-physical attack except by something non-physical. I'm fairly sure that the Forerunners don't have anything like that.



Sorry, I didnt understand properly what you are meaning with that. Could you give example about your point?




Posted by: BullHorn

Thanks! Wait.......which forums?



This thread, atleast. I havent seen you on other forums, so I dont know about them. :3

[Edited on 05.05.2011 12:46 PM PDT]

  • 05.05.2011 12:46 PM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=35882609&v iewreplies=true&postRepeater1-p=167

Ok, in Legacy (is that what it was? the one with Cortana recounting Forerunner-Flood War) the Forerunners are using weapons made out of light. The handles, admittedly aren't, but the "barrel" and "sights" and such are. That's what I meant by things made of light (also includes bridges and tethers). Admitedly, Jedi/Sith can't use force to move/crush these objects, but everything else is fair game. (The Forerunners, the tanks, the sentinels, the rings)

The Forerunners have no defence to this. There is no connection to sever, no blast to stop, nothing to attack except the Jedi/Sith themselves. Yes, forerunners probably have advanced targetting systems and powerful weapons, but that doesn't do anything when you are fighting someone who can tell what you are going to do, as soon as you think abou it.


What I'm saying is, in a fight the Jedi/Sith would win (which is what I thought this thread was about), but the Forerunners would still have the better tech. It depends on what you are comparing them by, if it is combat effectiveness against each other, the Jedi/Sith would win; but if it was who was the most advanced race, Forerunners, simply because the managed to find out ways of de-evolving entire races, building devices that scan and eliminate organisms of large enough mass and brain power, and the ability to create hard light.



Since I think this was about combat effectiveness, Jedi/Sith (Star Wars) would win in a fight with the Forerunners (Halo)

[Edited on 05.05.2011 1:06 PM PDT]

  • 05.05.2011 1:00 PM PDT

Flood's and Universe's Warhammer 40k fanatic and the one who knows much about it.

I also like House Stark and winter, hurr.


Posted by: BullHorn
Explanation.


Thanks, now I get it :)

Agreed on technological side, forerunner tech is by far more advanced then highest tech I know from SW.

[Edited on 05.05.2011 1:12 PM PDT]

  • 05.05.2011 1:11 PM PDT

"I aim to be pleased"

yea the UNSC can vaporise a planet and its moon using the N.O.V.A. multinuclear fusion warhead
blam - !

[Edited on 05.05.2011 1:15 PM PDT]

  • 05.05.2011 1:15 PM PDT


Posted by: WeAreTheMeta
yea the UNSC can vaporise a planet and its moon using the N.O.V.A. multinuclear fusion warhead
blam - !


Yep, and they have only built one ever.

  • 05.05.2011 1:20 PM PDT

Welcome to bungie, you have no rights. play nice!
CLICK!

How would it even work out? If there is sound in space in star wars and no sound in space in halo, how does it work when two universes come together?

The halo guys don't have the force so they couldn't be drained of life using that.
There is also something: The forerunners could probably need only a small team for this. Infiltrate some sort of slipstream machine and start messing up with the threads of the galaxy. Maybe cause planets to collide with eachother and what not. Use a dazzler or a baffler to camouflage it.

  • 05.05.2011 1:26 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 100
How would it even work out? If there is sound in space in star wars and no sound in space in halo, how does it work when two universes come together?

The halo guys don't have the force so they couldn't be drained of life using that.
There is also something: The forerunners could probably need only a small team for this. Infiltrate some sort of slipstream machine and start messing up with the threads of the galaxy. Maybe cause planets to collide with eachother and what not. Use a dazzler or a baffler to camouflage it.


You make no sense.

  • 05.05.2011 1:32 PM PDT

Welcome to bungie, you have no rights. play nice!
CLICK!


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Spartan 100
How would it even work out? If there is sound in space in star wars and no sound in space in halo, how does it work when two universes come together?

The halo guys don't have the force so they couldn't be drained of life using that.
There is also something: The forerunners could probably need only a small team for this. Infiltrate some sort of slipstream machine and start messing up with the threads of the galaxy. Maybe cause planets to collide with eachother and what not. Use a dazzler or a baffler to camouflage it.


You make no sense.

What makes you say that.

  • 05.05.2011 1:32 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 100

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Spartan 100
How would it even work out? If there is sound in space in star wars and no sound in space in halo, how does it work when two universes come together?

The halo guys don't have the force so they couldn't be drained of life using that.
There is also something: The forerunners could probably need only a small team for this. Infiltrate some sort of slipstream machine and start messing up with the threads of the galaxy. Maybe cause planets to collide with eachother and what not. Use a dazzler or a baffler to camouflage it.


You make no sense.

What makes you say that.


Bolded part.

  • 05.05.2011 1:36 PM PDT

Welcome to bungie, you have no rights. play nice!
CLICK!


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Spartan 100

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Spartan 100
How would it even work out? If there is sound in space in star wars and no sound in space in halo, how does it work when two universes come together?

The halo guys don't have the force so they couldn't be drained of life using that.
There is also something: The forerunners could probably need only a small team for this. Infiltrate some sort of slipstream machine and start messing up with the threads of the galaxy. Maybe cause planets to collide with eachother and what not. Use a dazzler or a baffler to camouflage it.


You make no sense.

What makes you say that.


Bolded part.

They don't use the same physics.

  • 05.05.2011 1:37 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 100
Posted by: Spartan 100
How would it even work out? If there is sound in space in star wars and no sound in space in halo, how does it work when two universes come together?

They don't use the same physics.


You don't understand movie making.

Space scenes with no sound can be very boring, especially when there is many space combat scenes.

Also, is there not sound in LNOS mission?

[Edited on 05.05.2011 1:41 PM PDT]

  • 05.05.2011 1:39 PM PDT

Welcome to bungie, you have no rights. play nice!
CLICK!


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Spartan 100
Posted by: Spartan 100
How would it even work out? If there is sound in space in star wars and no sound in space in halo, how does it work when two universes come together?

They don't use the same physics.


You don't understand movie making.

Space scenes with no sound can be very boring, especially when there is many space combat scenes.

Also, is there not sound in LNOS mission?

Realistically, there was no sound in it.


And at the guy above. Not if there was a precursor maybe.

  • 05.05.2011 1:43 PM PDT

Yeah Spartan, and why does the Star Wars universe suddenly have sound in it?

  • 05.05.2011 1:47 PM PDT