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Subject: Halo vs Star Wars. Who wins?


Posted by: trecker 118
Well, I think that Halo would triumph over the Star Wars Universe. Sure the major factions would easily defeat the UNSC and The Covenant (although The Covenant would put up a decent fight in my eyes.) Then we have the Forerunners, with the Halo installations, their brilliant understanding of genetics etc, heck their smallest class of ship was called a Planet Breaker.
Their infantry would be better than any of the Star Wars major factions. Hard light weapons.

Sure Star Wars has the Death Star, Executor Class Star Destroyers etc but weve seen how easly they were destroyed in the films. And yes, there is the Force but even the Jedi fell rather quickly in my opinion to the Clones.

And The Flood would have a freakin' field day on the Clones, the more they make, the more food for The Flood.

No point bringing in the Percursors, not enough is known about them to even take some educated guesses.

~Trecker


A: jedi got taken out quickly because their senses were clouded, and they were betrayed.
B: How easily they've been destroyed? Sorry pal but I can only remember a SINGLE star destroyer being completely destroyed in the original 3 movies.

The problem with using forerunners is we don't know much about their tech. "Their smallest ship is called a planet breaker" Okay, but what is it's weapons? It's shields? How much beating can it take?

Halo vs Star wars should be between factions we know nearly EVERYTHING about, in both technology and tactics.

  • 08.31.2011 3:18 PM PDT

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I say Halo is better because Halo could destroy everything.

But the Death Star could destroy a Halo before it fires.

Halo has defensive mechanisms, including shields, hard-light shields.

  • 08.31.2011 3:22 PM PDT

if it was all tied up and even like 5 jedis= 5 spartans
then yea star wars would win

  • 08.31.2011 5:32 PM PDT

I've put up with this thread a long time and defended Star Wars to the end but let me some it up for those who do not understand.

Star Wars > UNSC/Covenant

Forerunner > Star Wars

Star Wars > Flood

Honestly, whoever thinks that Star Wars can't handle something such as the flood is high, The Empire have fought, defeated, cured, and even created their own type of flood like creatures. So get out. This is exactly like Rock, paper, scissors.

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Star Wars for sure.

I'm a big Halo Fan but just even look at the scale of Darth Vaders Executer Star Destroyer compared to other ships... that thing would pack a punch.

A better question might be who would win between Chief and a Jedi/Sith.....
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dont forget the chief has an energy sword which im sure can woop jedi, plus cheif he is lucky an br will do the job
Not to say that is a better question, because it isn't, but a Jedi/Sith would own a Spartan big style.

  • 08.31.2011 7:56 PM PDT
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There is the issue of the unyielding Hierophant, a ship 10 kilometers in length which could dock IN High Charity. High Charity has the weapons to match its size, and if push comes to shove, high charity could be evacuated so that the Dreadnaught could be unleashed, a ship powerful enough to destroy the entire covenant Armada. Since the biggest most powerful ship i've seen that doesn't have a rediculous charge rate is only 11.6 kilometers long with firepower to match its size, I'm going to go with halo for the win.

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We do know that the dreadnaught could take out an entire covenant fleet running at minimum power, and that the covenant has the only operational dreadnaught.

  • 08.31.2011 8:28 PM PDT


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There is the issue of the unyielding Hierophant, a ship 10 kilometers in length which could dock IN High Charity. High Charity has the weapons to match its size, and if push comes to shove, high charity could be evacuated so that the Dreadnaught could be unleashed, a ship powerful enough to destroy the entire covenant Armada. Since the biggest most powerful ship i've seen that doesn't have a rediculous charge rate is only 11.6 kilometers long with firepower to match its size, I'm going to go with halo for the win.


A: Unyielding Hierophant was a station like high charity. It had no weapons.
B: High charity has no weapons, it has a fleet escort.
C: The Forerunner keyship(aka dreadnaught) Has no weapons. Every weapon system on it was removed/disabled upon formation of the covenant.

  • 08.31.2011 9:55 PM PDT

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Hey forerunner

But guys. Why don't you put combat scenarios and how would the battles roll out?
Okay, so remmeber how four cruisiers basically tore a 30000km in diamater halo with a width of about 1000km? The cruisers were able to overwhelm the halo's defences while it was in battle mode with hard light shields and all that.
Now imagne what cruisers might do to a death star.

  • 08.31.2011 10:01 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 100
Hey forerunner

But guys. Why don't you put combat scenarios and how would the battles roll out?
Okay, so remmeber how four cruisiers basically tore a 30000km in diamater halo with a width of about 1000km? The cruisers were able to overwhelm the halo's defences while it was in battle mode with hard light shields and all that.
Now imagne what cruisers might do to a death star.
Don't forget that the Death star has shields, not even the mighty turbo-lasers can shoot through those, energy, along with a layer of Ray shields.

  • 08.31.2011 10:22 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 100
Hey forerunner

But guys. Why don't you put combat scenarios and how would the battles roll out?
Okay, so remmeber how four cruisiers basically tore a 30000km in diamater halo with a width of about 1000km? The cruisers were able to overwhelm the halo's defences while it was in battle mode with hard light shields and all that.
Now imagne what cruisers might do to a death star.


What are the defensive capabilities of a 'hard light shield'.

How much can it take?

The forerunner tech is a big pile of "We can assume but we don't know"

  • 08.31.2011 10:36 PM PDT


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Posted by: Spartan 100
Hey forerunner

But guys. Why don't you put combat scenarios and how would the battles roll out?
Okay, so remmeber how four cruisiers basically tore a 30000km in diamater halo with a width of about 1000km? The cruisers were able to overwhelm the halo's defences while it was in battle mode with hard light shields and all that.
Now imagne what cruisers might do to a death star.


What are the defensive capabilities of a 'hard light shield'.

How much can it take?

The forerunner tech is a big pile of "We can assume but we don't know"
The Entire Rebel fleet's combined firepower could not break it. Let us compare the Halo firepower to the Star wars in a simple way, I don't want to get into details but you want to find our how I know this, go back to the earlier pages. But one bolt from a Turbolaser is four times stronger than a Shipboard MAC, let us not forget that the cannons usually have two barrels and the ships have dozens of them that fire at the rate of a shot per second each, along with Proton Torpedo's, Laser Cannons, Ion Cannons...Etc...All that together cannot even sizzle the shields.

Even still, I know the Forerunner could take down the Empire, but they would put up one hell of a fight. Rings? Clones will be ready in just one week's time. Droids will be fighting in the meantime. Forerunner will just massacre us with sheer numbers though.

Although, I can state however that even though the Forerunner could not defeat the Flood, the Empire could have.

  • 08.31.2011 11:06 PM PDT

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Remember the explosion from the pillar of autumn? It left a 5km crater. You can calculate the tons neede to do that. Now, the Four cruisers cut canyons on the 1000km wide halo. Canyons? Thats way more than 5km. Some specialized sentinels took some of the shots and absorbed and others sacrificed themselves. Those were sentinels. Now imagine the kind of shields needed to absorb that firepower. Do the math. Also, the flood werent alone. They had mendicant and the precursor. The forerunners didn't simply loose to an infection.

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Posted by: Spartan 100
Remember the explosion from the pillar of autumn? It left a 5km crater. You can calculate the tons neede to do that. Now, the Four cruisers cut canyons on the 1000km wide halo. Canyons? Thats way more than 5km. Some specialized sentinels took some of the shots and absorbed and others sacrificed themselves. Those were sentinels. Now imagine the kind of shields needed to absorb that firepower. Do the math. Also, the flood werent alone. They had mendicant and the precursor. The forerunners didn't simply loose to an infection.

Canyons is a very broad word to use in this debate. We don't know how deep the canyons were, how large, only that they were "canyons". I could take a stick and draw a line in the dirt and call it a canyon. A definition for canyon is a deep valley with steep sides, usually with a river running through it. Deep is the key word there, but it is also subjective. Deep could be a hole ten feet deep a bottomless pit. Canyon is therefore a loose term to base your argument on.

  • 09.01.2011 11:39 AM PDT

A: jedi got taken out quickly because their senses were clouded, and they were betrayed.
B: How easily they've been destroyed? Sorry pal but I can only remember a SINGLE star destroyer being completely destroyed in the original 3 movies.

The problem with using forerunners is we don't know much about their tech. "Their smallest ship is called a planet breaker" Okay, but what is it's weapons? It's shields? How much beating can it take?

Halo vs Star wars should be between factions we know nearly EVERYTHING about, in both technology and tactics.


All right, I do see your point reguarding that we dont know too much about The Forerunners. But really, the only way that it would be a fairer fight in my eyes is too bring in The Forerunners. Without them, essentially the only advantage the Halo Universe has is The Flood. Which is really the only reason I mentioned them.

Sure, while only one in the 3 films was completely destroyed, it doesnt seem too difficult for The Forerunners or The Covenant to take on. Because of the placement of the Command Bridge on Star Destroyers, once the shields are down, the Bridge is far too vulnerable. And once that is destroyed, the Star Destroyers Navigations (and probaly many other systems) begin to fail as seen when the Executor was destroyed.

Although if I'm wrong about anything at all, I appreciate any corrections.

  • 09.01.2011 1:33 PM PDT

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  • 09.01.2011 1:38 PM PDT


Posted by: trecker 118
A: jedi got taken out quickly because their senses were clouded, and they were betrayed.
B: How easily they've been destroyed? Sorry pal but I can only remember a SINGLE star destroyer being completely destroyed in the original 3 movies.

The problem with using forerunners is we don't know much about their tech. "Their smallest ship is called a planet breaker" Okay, but what is it's weapons? It's shields? How much beating can it take?

Halo vs Star wars should be between factions we know nearly EVERYTHING about, in both technology and tactics.


All right, I do see your point reguarding that we dont know too much about The Forerunners. But really, the only way that it would be a fairer fight in my eyes is too bring in The Forerunners. Without them, essentially the only advantage the Halo Universe has is The Flood. Which is really the only reason I mentioned them.

Sure, while only one in the 3 films was completely destroyed, it doesnt seem too difficult for The Forerunners or The Covenant to take on. Because of the placement of the Command Bridge on Star Destroyers, once the shields are down, the Bridge is far too vulnerable. And once that is destroyed, the Star Destroyers Navigations (and probaly many other systems) begin to fail as seen when the Executor was destroyed.

Although if I'm wrong about anything at all, I appreciate any corrections.


Star Destroyers have a secondary control room. The reason the Exacutor went into a death dive (Me and my brother's theory) is that when the A-wing impacted the bridge, the explosion + sudden vacuum tossed the officers around, possibly smashing over control panels and turning the engines to full power. Thus it dove before control could be regained.

Really, the way I do full faction long term fights is I have the UNSC and Covenant band together right after Harvest, thus both are are full strength and production capabilities.

  • 09.01.2011 1:46 PM PDT


Star Destroyers have a secondary control room. The reason the Exacutor went into a death dive (Me and my brother's theory) is that when the A-wing impacted the bridge, the explosion + sudden vacuum tossed the officers around, possibly smashing over control panels and turning the engines to full power. Thus it dove before control could be regained.

Really, the way I do full faction long term fights is I have the UNSC and Covenant band together right after Harvest, thus both are are full strength and production capabilities.


You know that theory makes a lot of sense.
And yeah, perhaps the combined and full might of both factions would be able to hold out a lot longer than I orignally though.

  • 09.01.2011 2:01 PM PDT

So Says Shadroxon.

Everyone, let me make this clear.

The Precusors had completely invincible technology that could only be damaged by neural physics, which is available only to Halo. So Stars Wars loses, no question. Don't say "OMG sun crusher and galaxy gun." COMPLETELY INVICIBLE TECH!! That is 100% fact. You can't destroy it.

So shut up, sit down, and stop pretending Star Wars would win!

Not to mention the Flood...

  • 09.01.2011 2:23 PM PDT

Sorry but you can keep dreaming. There is no proof that anything that is invincible in Halo is invincible in Star Wars and vice versa. I would like to see where it states that Precusors have "COMPLETELY INVINCIBLE TECH!! That is 100% fact." perhaps you can show me the 100% fact.Also in Empire vs Forerunners maybe the Empire would realize that the only weapon that could stand up to them is the Suncrusher and begin to plate their star destroyers with Quantum-crystalline armour or they might even capture a Forerunner ship and re-purpose its tech. and besides if you drag a God-faction into the fight Star Wars can do just the same with the Infinite Empire and the Celesitals. I agree with cmdr daefaron we need a set of rules to stop the dragging in of God-factions.

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  • 09.01.2011 2:43 PM PDT

So Says Shadroxon.


Posted by: Red Bot 6
Sorry but you can keep dreaming. There is no proof that anything that is invincible in Halo is invincible in Star Wars and vice versa. I would like to see where it states that Precusors have "COMPLETELY INVINCIBLE TECH!! That is 100% fact." perhaps you can show me the 100% fact.Also in Empire vs Forerunners maybe the Empire would realize that the only weapon that could stand up to them is the Suncrusher and begin to plate their star destroyers with Quantum-crystalline armour or they might even capture a Forerunner ship and re-purpose its tech. and besides if you drag a God-faction into the fight Star Wars can do just the same with the Infinite Empire and the Celesitals. I agree with cmdr daefaron we need a set of rules to stop the dragging in of God-factions.
Mayhaps you have heard of the new book Halo: Origins? It clearly states that Precursor Tech could only be harmed by Neural Physics. Sorry, son, but you failed.

However I do agree that these "God-Factions" are a little repetitive, but if you get your Galaxy Gun, we get our precursors.

  • 09.01.2011 2:49 PM PDT


Posted by: Shadroxon

Posted by: Red Bot 6
Sorry but you can keep dreaming. There is no proof that anything that is invincible in Halo is invincible in Star Wars and vice versa. I would like to see where it states that Precusors have "COMPLETELY INVINCIBLE TECH!! That is 100% fact." perhaps you can show me the 100% fact.Also in Empire vs Forerunners maybe the Empire would realize that the only weapon that could stand up to them is the Suncrusher and begin to plate their star destroyers with Quantum-crystalline armour or they might even capture a Forerunner ship and re-purpose its tech. and besides if you drag a God-faction into the fight Star Wars can do just the same with the Infinite Empire and the Celesitals. I agree with cmdr daefaron we need a set of rules to stop the dragging in of God-factions.
Mayhaps you have heard of the new book Halo: Origins? It clearly states that Precursor Tech could only be harmed by Neural Physics. Sorry, son, but you failed.

However I do agree that these "God-Factions" are a little repetitive, but if you get your Galaxy Gun, we get our precursors.


I never have brought in those super weapons.

Also, is that book out? Anyway, explain what Neural physics is...

  • 09.01.2011 3:11 PM PDT

Halo has the power to destroy an entire Universe


/thread

  • 09.01.2011 3:41 PM PDT

Dont know im a BIG fan to both.

  • 09.01.2011 4:04 PM PDT

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Halo has the power to destroy an entire Universe


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So does Star Wars...

  • 09.01.2011 4:04 PM PDT