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Subject: Halo vs Star Wars. Who wins?
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: GAMERXD001
Spartan-I's, were just test dummies.
Spartan-II's, were the real effing deal.
Spartan-III's, near-suicidal black ops soldiers...Jun-266 is like the last Spartan-III in the galaxy.

Plus whether or not the Spartans trapped in Onyx can be counted or not, they are almost entirely Spartan-II's (Including Fred & Kelly from Halo Legends).

The UNSC has Destroyers about the same size as a Star Destroyer, plus a couple of hundred other ships to back their Destroyers up.
The Covenant has a city-sized capital ship gaurded by several hundred ships 10x the size of the Star Destroyers, with hundreds more gaurding them.

Doesn't matter how many clones, droids, bounty hunters, jedi, or sith Star Wars sends...in the end they are hugely overpowered by Halo's armies.

And I'm not even bringing in the Flood...Good luck topping Halo with these 2 factors.


um the S-I were successful just not enough money

Jun is far from the last SIII dumbass, and there are far more SIIIs trapped in the dyson sphere than SII. did you even read the book? do you know the difference between 2 and 3?


Um star wars has trillions (don't know next higher number) of grounds forces. Halo doesn't even come close to that.


And what exactly do we mean by "starwars" and "Halo"? Do we mean every single race in each universe or just the main ones?

We are going to need some clear engagement settings.

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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

Halo vs [insert any universe here] means that Halo is at full power whereas the other universe can only bring in contemporary factions. If it was both universes at full power SW could stomp Halo through sheer weight of numbers. It isn't however.

This hypocrisy is very common. Ascended Ancients are not allowed in a Halo vs Stargate but Precursors are. Warhammer is not allowed to have the Eldar/Necrons/Tryranids/Chaos/Orks at their maximum but Halo can still call upon the full might of the Forerunners. Star Wars' droids are ignored almost completely by Halo supporters and they always assume a single flood spore can make it on to Corusant regardless of defenses (and of course, Forerunners and Precursors allowed but no Rakatans etc.).

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Posted by: Xd00999
Halo vs [insert any universe here] means that Halo is at full power whereas the other universe can only bring in contemporary factions. If it was both universes at full power SW could stomp Halo through sheer weight of numbers. It isn't however.

This hypocrisy is very common. Ascended Ancients are not allowed in a Halo vs Stargate but Precursors are. Warhammer is not allowed to have the Eldar/Necrons/Tryranids/Chaos/Orks at their maximum but Halo can still call upon the full might of the Forerunners. Star Wars' droids are ignored almost completely by Halo supporters and they always assume a single flood spore can make it on to Corusant regardless of defenses (and of course, Forerunners and Precursors allowed but no Rakatans etc.).


Wait a minute,when the hell did this ever happened in a vs debate?I and others always acknowledged other species in those debates.

If you actually did took a look at the posts then you know it.

Droids don't mean a -blam!- if they get pwned by Sentinels in any categorie(Onyx sentinels and legend super sentinel need i say more?).

I call BS on your entire post, is suggest you reread all debate threads on this forum and the Flood and see for yourself.

  • 10.10.2011 10:16 AM PDT


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Posted by: Xd00999
Halo vs [insert any universe here] means that Halo is at full power whereas the other universe can only bring in contemporary factions. If it was both universes at full power SW could stomp Halo through sheer weight of numbers. It isn't however.

This hypocrisy is very common. Ascended Ancients are not allowed in a Halo vs Stargate but Precursors are. Warhammer is not allowed to have the Eldar/Necrons/Tryranids/Chaos/Orks at their maximum but Halo can still call upon the full might of the Forerunners. Star Wars' droids are ignored almost completely by Halo supporters and they always assume a single flood spore can make it on to Corusant regardless of defenses (and of course, Forerunners and Precursors allowed but no Rakatans etc.).


Wait a minute,when the hell did this ever happened in a vs debate?I and others always acknowledged other species in those debates.

If you actually did took a look at the posts then you know it.

Droids don't mean a -blam!- if they get pwned by Sentinels in any categorie(Onyx sentinels and legend super sentinel need i say more?).

I call BS on your entire post, is suggest you reread all debate threads on this forum and the Flood and see for yourself.



I don't recall this happening either. I fully recoginize that the likes of Rakatan, Celestials and what not are perfectly fair game in a full V. full debate. Same with Warhammer, which is why I always say that particular fight must result in a dead tie for neither can truly finish the other side off.

But with Wars its a simple matter of them not being able to touch the Precursors. Alls fair in war, and this case is no different. Bring the sun crusher, the Rakatan's infinite Empire, I don't care. Won't matter, but its only fair (unintentional rhyming FTW!)

Also, one last thing before I go: WHO THE -blam!- BROUGHT THIS BACK!

*rage*

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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.


Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: Xd00999
Halo vs [insert any universe here] means that Halo is at full power whereas the other universe can only bring in contemporary factions. If it was both universes at full power SW could stomp Halo through sheer weight of numbers. It isn't however.

This hypocrisy is very common. Ascended Ancients are not allowed in a Halo vs Stargate but Precursors are. Warhammer is not allowed to have the Eldar/Necrons/Tryranids/Chaos/Orks at their maximum but Halo can still call upon the full might of the Forerunners. Star Wars' droids are ignored almost completely by Halo supporters and they always assume a single flood spore can make it on to Corusant regardless of defenses (and of course, Forerunners and Precursors allowed but no Rakatans etc.).


Wait a minute,when the hell did this ever happened in a vs debate?I and others always acknowledged other species in those debates.

If you actually did took a look at the posts then you know it.

Droids don't mean a -blam!- if they get pwned by Sentinels in any categorie(Onyx sentinels and legend super sentinel need i say more?).

I call BS on your entire post, is suggest you reread all debate threads on this forum and the Flood and see for yourself.


I disagree. Remember that Halo vs Warhammer thread a while back? Some guys got it into their heads that Halo can kill robots and gods. I am not saying you or grey or anton or Daefaron do it but others most certainly do. Looking back a single page a member says that Precursor beat all even though we know nothing about them. Sentinels don't mean -blam!- if they get owned by droids.

I am merely remarking that if Star Wars were to bring it's full power to bear, Halo would be defeated.

Edit: GAMERXD001 is the guy who necroed this thread. One page back, just below Spartan's post about the Fortress class vessel.

[Edited on 10.10.2011 10:31 AM PDT]

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Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: Xd00999
Halo vs [insert any universe here] means that Halo is at full power whereas the other universe can only bring in contemporary factions. If it was both universes at full power SW could stomp Halo through sheer weight of numbers. It isn't however.

This hypocrisy is very common. Ascended Ancients are not allowed in a Halo vs Stargate but Precursors are. Warhammer is not allowed to have the Eldar/Necrons/Tryranids/Chaos/Orks at their maximum but Halo can still call upon the full might of the Forerunners. Star Wars' droids are ignored almost completely by Halo supporters and they always assume a single flood spore can make it on to Corusant regardless of defenses (and of course, Forerunners and Precursors allowed but no Rakatans etc.).


Wait a minute,when the hell did this ever happened in a vs debate?I and others always acknowledged other species in those debates.

If you actually did took a look at the posts then you know it.

Droids don't mean a -blam!- if they get pwned by Sentinels in any categorie(Onyx sentinels and legend super sentinel need i say more?).

I call BS on your entire post, is suggest you reread all debate threads on this forum and the Flood and see for yourself.


I disagree. Remember that Halo vs Warhammer thread a while back? Some guys got it into their heads that Halo can kill robots and gods. I am not saying you or grey or anton or Daefaron do it but others most certainly do. Looking back a single page a member says that Precursor beat all even though we know nothing about them. Sentinels don't mean -blam!- if they get owned by droids.

I am merely remarking that if Star Wars were to bring it's full power to bear, Halo would be defeated.


And this is where the infinite circle of fan-rage comes in. Yes, to all of the mortal races, SW's sheer weight of numbers would eventully overwhelm Halo, even the might Forerunners, who are a worthy foe for SW all its own.

But it is a known fact that the Precursor's technology is both invincible and allowed them to travel to places Star Wars is physically incapable of touching (most of it anyway). I am speaking of extragalactic areas.

We don't need to know anymore about the Precursors other then this. Its just like how the Chaos Gods cannot be defeated by most universes because we know they're invincible. We know virtually nothing other then that (from a martial view) but it is enough to know that they are unstoppable, and any argument is futile.

We know nothing about God really, and yet we know a fight involving God and Star Wars would see Star Wars lose painfully because they have no weapons to use against Him, regardless of what other powers he has. Its a 'win by default' card because no other card can defeate it. Specifics at this point are irrelevant.

  • 10.10.2011 10:35 AM PDT

Yeah... all it's been proved is the precursor tech is very durable, not "IMMUNE TO ALL DAMAGE" as far as I've heard. The only effective way halo could quickly destroy it was using halo rings.

Edit: Roberto you actually do it in a sense. Tossing every scrap of canon tech data for Star Wars out the window, but then saying Cortana can calculate every atom in the universe from inside Mark V MJOLNIR armor?

[Edited on 10.10.2011 10:37 AM PDT]

  • 10.10.2011 10:35 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Yeah... all it's been proved is the precursor tech is very durable, not "IMMUNE TO ALL DAMAGE" as far as I've heard. The only effective way halo could quickly destroy it was using halo rings.


343i would like a word with you. Keep scrolling down to the 'P' section


If I had a dime for every time I posted that link...

  • 10.10.2011 10:38 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Yeah... all it's been proved is the precursor tech is very durable, not "IMMUNE TO ALL DAMAGE" as far as I've heard. The only effective way halo could quickly destroy it was using halo rings.

Edit: Roberto you actually do it in a sense. Tossing every scrap of canon tech data for Star Wars out the window, but then saying Cortana can calculate every atom in the universe from inside Mark V MJOLNIR armor?


I'm sure Star Wars has a computer of similar strength, but I've never seen it.

It is partially my own fault for not knowing--ignorance can be blamed on no one but the ignorant--but from what I have ever read, a sizable chunk of SW canon if I do say so myself, I've never seen anything supporting the notion.

Besides, I am merely a messenger for someone more mathematically adept then myself. The one who did the calculations for Cortana's processing power said what I have been saying, I was not the original. I have no other fall-back to question his math, so I defer to his better judgement.

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Posted by: goldhawk
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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

This is what I am talking about. For some unknown reason Precursors/Ascended Ancients/Chaos Gods/Q/etc. are always brought into the debate and one side always claim victory because their god > your god. Any argument to the contrary is shot down by the other side because their gods are "better". Even if one side says that gods are off limits some guys on the other side will still bring in their gods and use it as their instant win button.

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Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: Xd00999
Halo vs [insert any universe here] means that Halo is at full power whereas the other universe can only bring in contemporary factions. If it was both universes at full power SW could stomp Halo through sheer weight of numbers. It isn't however.

This hypocrisy is very common. Ascended Ancients are not allowed in a Halo vs Stargate but Precursors are. Warhammer is not allowed to have the Eldar/Necrons/Tryranids/Chaos/Orks at their maximum but Halo can still call upon the full might of the Forerunners. Star Wars' droids are ignored almost completely by Halo supporters and they always assume a single flood spore can make it on to Corusant regardless of defenses (and of course, Forerunners and Precursors allowed but no Rakatans etc.).


Wait a minute,when the hell did this ever happened in a vs debate?I and others always acknowledged other species in those debates.

If you actually did took a look at the posts then you know it.

Droids don't mean a -blam!- if they get pwned by Sentinels in any categorie(Onyx sentinels and legend super sentinel need i say more?).

I call BS on your entire post, is suggest you reread all debate threads on this forum and the Flood and see for yourself.


I disagree. Remember that Halo vs Warhammer thread a while back? Some guys got it into their heads that Halo can kill robots and gods. I am not saying you or grey or anton or Daefaron do it but others most certainly do. Looking back a single page a member says that Precursor beat all even though we know nothing about them. Sentinels don't mean -blam!- if they get owned by droids.

I am merely remarking that if Star Wars were to bring it's full power to bear, Halo would be defeated.

Edit: GAMERXD001 is the guy who necroed this thread. One page back, just below Spartan's post about the Fortress class vessel.


-Yes i remember that one.That guy had nothing to back up but i dunno if i posted this quote, regardless here it is:

pg 316

"Why would they prime and fire?"I cried. "That will kill everyone here, disintegrate the metarchy
-Forerunners will lose their history, their heart and spirit-"


This quote says the Halos can destroy the metarchy AI network on the capital.
But it probably has to do with the fact that Halo can change frequencies to target non organic things.

-We know little about them,but we what we know from them puts them at a high level.
Sentinels>>>Droids lol

-I disagree with that claim,but whatever.

Let's let this thread die in peace.

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Posted by: goldhawk
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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Yeah... all it's been proved is the precursor tech is very durable, not "IMMUNE TO ALL DAMAGE" as far as I've heard. The only effective way halo could quickly destroy it was using halo rings.


343i would like a word with you. Keep scrolling down to the 'P' section


If I had a dime for every time I posted that link...

Precursor structures are indestructible, yet they were all destroyed by Halo. Indestructible object being destroyed = not indestructible anymore.

  • 10.10.2011 10:51 AM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Yeah... all it's been proved is the precursor tech is very durable, not "IMMUNE TO ALL DAMAGE" as far as I've heard. The only effective way halo could quickly destroy it was using halo rings.


343i would like a word with you. Keep scrolling down to the 'P' section


If I had a dime for every time I posted that link...


"Remnants." Do not = everything they had.

Also, AI is only as strong as the hardware it's plugged into. Cortana's sensor abilities are not great in Mark V armor.

[Edited on 10.10.2011 11:12 AM PDT]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Ok let me explain something.

the point behind the precursor tech being indestructable is correct. Yes it was destroyed by a tuned halo array but look at that.


The original halos themselves took hundreds of years to make not only that it was an extremely advanced civilization that built them. The Forerunners are nearly among the strongest races in the SCFI setting.


Being able to use,interact and manipulate netrinos is an Extremly high scientific feat that take Eons to reach. IT was clearly explained in the book that Things seem All powerful to you until you reach that level of sophistication.

This being said Yes the precursors ARE indestructible because few races will never be able to reach the ablity to destroy a precursor toilet. Just because 1 Extremely advanced race is able to do something does not mean that all the other scfi races we know are able to do it.



The races that could actually fight the precursors in all of scfi are going to be on 2 maybe 3 hands and that is being generous. The races that would not be able to touch the precursors let alone the forerunners could be written in a short novel.

  • 10.10.2011 11:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
Ok let me explain something.

the point behind the precursor tech being indestructable is correct. Yes it was destroyed by a tuned halo array but look at that.


The original halos themselves took hundreds of years to make not only that it was an extremely advanced civilization that built them. The Forerunners are nearly among the strongest races in the SCFI setting.


Being able to use,interact and manipulate netrinos is an Extremly high scientific feat that take Eons to reach. IT was clearly explained in the book that Things seem All powerful to you until you reach that level of sophistication.

This being said Yes the precursors ARE indestructible because few races will never be able to reach the ablity to destroy a precursor toilet. Just because 1 Extremely advanced race is able to do something does not mean that all the other scfi races we know are able to do it.



The races that could actually fight the precursors in all of scfi are going to be on 2 maybe 3 hands and that is being generous. The races that would not be able to touch the precursors let alone the forerunners could be written in a short novel.



Obviously, you've never met the ridiculously overpowered universe of Warhammer 40K.

But in terms of Star Wars and Halo, this does seem like a pretty reasonable statement

[Edited on 10.10.2011 1:43 PM PDT]

  • 10.10.2011 1:43 PM PDT

F34R Team Hunter

Why would you bring in a bunch of random bs stuff that has nothing to do with Halo vs Star Wars, can't you just stick with that instead of trying to bring more crap into this.

  • 10.13.2011 9:20 AM PDT

F34R Team Hunter

Okay, so Star Wars has a crap load of people to fight for it in its own galaxy, but what about Halo Pre-Human-Covenant War.

Humans controlled over 800 planets and people can only guess at how many ships there were to defend them + the Covenant had no threats to destroy any of their fleets.

Plus, the sentinals would just get their mechanical butts handed to them by anything that Star Wars has...lets face it, if ewoks can beat stormtroopers, then just about anything murders the sentinals.

The Flood is an unfair thing to bring in unless you really think Halo would lose.

The Forerunners and Precursors can't fully count, unless you bring in the Death Star.

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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

Please, stop necro bumping this thread. This has been done to death.

  • 10.13.2011 9:38 AM PDT

F34R Team Hunter

I'll be fair...This Time.

UNSC Pre-Human-Covenant War = Star wars

Covenant Pre-Human Covenant War = or > Star Wars
(Technological advantange)

UNSC during Human-Covenant War < Star Wars

Covenant during Human-Covenant War = or > Star Wars

UNSC after Human-Covenant War > Star Wars
(No Competition)

Covenant after Human-Covenant War > Star Wars
(No Competition)

Flood > Clones/Stormtroopers

Flood < Droids
(Not as good against inorganics)

Sentinals < Star Wars

Precursors > Star Wars

Forerunners Pre-Flood War > Star Wars

Forerunners during Flood War = Star Wars
(Low population but same advanced tech)

Halo Array > Death Star

Overall.

With Ancients: Halo Wins
Without Ancients: Star Wars Wins

Don't like the second win but at least Halo could win 1 of the rounds...

  • 10.13.2011 9:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: GAMERXD001

Plus, the sentinals would just get their mechanical butts handed to them by anything that Star Wars has...lets face it, if ewoks can beat stormtroopers, then just about anything murders the sentinals.


Huh!?!?!? Stormtroopers are usually the first guys to die in any Star Wars film, book, or video game. They're more comparable to Grunts or Jackals. Sentinels are challenging to destroy, especially when there are more then five of them shooting at you.

You might as well say, "Emperor Palpatine got betrayed by Darth Vader, this means Master Chief is going to get betrayed by Cortana!"

[Edited on 10.13.2011 9:41 AM PDT]

  • 10.13.2011 9:40 AM PDT

when all else fails, improvise

Here we go again.

*watches the thread from a distance*


Lets do this

*calmly enters thread*

OK, here is what I think

STAR WARS: This movie series set the bar for science fiction movies the world over, providing the bast available special effects of both the 70's and now, engaging dialogue which both heavily advances the plot and can be related to an number of ongoing geopolitical events, and the overall story is just an overall win providing the perfect balance between action and plot. Star Wars was such an epic win that every science fiction movie since has been compared in one was or another to star wars.

HALO: This new front runner completely redefined the science fiction genera by offering it all in video game format, but beyond that the entire flow of the series including plot music graphics and character is FAR smoother than any game or I've played or watched he last ten years. The way the story is told is entirely different than any other game, and had an incredible influence on the flash games on the internet.

That said even Halo has been compared to star wars, though where it stacks up in comparison is a pure matter of opinion and is not a winnable argument. Its all what you think so I find the flame bait people troll each other with completely pointless, both are absolutely amazing universes which offer a nearly infinite opportunity for expansion.

Now please fell free to respond

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It's extremely simple, as Cmdr has stated, The Galactic Empire would defeat the UNSC and Covenant, this is where their numbers truely shine. However, Forerunners are overpowered to the extent that they now are on Culture level. I believe the amount of ships they have almost equal Star Wars's population when in their prime( forerunners ).

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Posted by: ForerunnerDidact
It's extremely simple, as Cmdr has stated, The Galactic Empire would defeat the UNSC and Covenant, this is where their numbers truely shine. However, Forerunners are overpowered to the extent that they now are on Culture level. I believe the amount of ships they have almost equal Star Wars's population when in their prime( forerunners ).

Not possible Galactic empire wont be able to defeat covenant...
Plus the unsc has Mac cannons to protect their earth and also nukes which pwn every1 and the galactic empire dosent.

  • 10.30.2011 5:51 AM PDT


Posted by: GAMERXD001
UNSC Pre-Human-Covenant War = Star wars

Covenant Pre-Human Covenant War = or > Star Wars
(Technological advantange)


Posted by: FTW 1997


Posted by: ForerunnerDidact
It's extremely simple, as Cmdr has stated, The Galactic Empire would defeat the UNSC and Covenant, this is where their numbers truely shine. However, Forerunners are overpowered to the extent that they now are on Culture level. I believe the amount of ships they have almost equal Star Wars's population when in their prime( forerunners ).

Not possible Galactic empire wont be able to defeat covenant...
Plus the unsc has Mac cannons to protect their earth and also nukes which pwn every1 and the galactic empire dosent.


I'll just point this out for you two, a single sub-fleet of the open circle fleet (Galactic republic) contained 1000+ Venator star destroyers. That doesn't count ANY of the support craft, frigates, and destroyers/carriers.

The galactic empire or republic can easily outnumber the entire UNSC and Covenant, even pre-war.

Also, Star Wars capship shielding is effective against both energy weapons/heat, AND projectile weapons. + their ship armor...


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Posted by: GAMERXD001

Plus, the sentinals would just get their mechanical butts handed to them by anything that Star Wars has...lets face it, if ewoks can beat stormtroopers, then just about anything murders the sentinals.


Huh!?!?!? Stormtroopers are usually the first guys to die in any Star Wars film, book, or video game. They're more comparable to Grunts or Jackals. Sentinels are challenging to destroy, especially when there are more then five of them shooting at you.

You might as well say, "Emperor Palpatine got betrayed by Darth Vader, this means Master Chief is going to get betrayed by Cortana!"


Cause they face the hero only. Hence the "stormtrooper effect."

Stormtroopers are actually highly trained, feared elite soldiers. Obi-wan notes "Only stormtroopers are so precise." at the sandcrawler wreck.

  • 10.30.2011 10:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Posted by: GAMERXD001
UNSC Pre-Human-Covenant War = Star wars

Covenant Pre-Human Covenant War = or > Star Wars
(Technological advantange)

Posted by: FTW 1997
Posted by: ForerunnerDidact
It's extremely simple, as Cmdr has stated, The Galactic Empire would defeat the UNSC and Covenant, this is where their numbers truely shine. However, Forerunners are overpowered to the extent that they now are on Culture level. I believe the amount of ships they have almost equal Star Wars's population when in their prime( forerunners ).

Not possible Galactic empire wont be able to defeat covenant...
Plus the unsc has Mac cannons to protect their earth and also nukes which pwn every1 and the galactic empire dosent.

I'll just point this out for you two, a single sub-fleet of the open circle fleet (Galactic republic) contained 1000+ Venator star destroyers. That doesn't count ANY of the support craft, frigates, and destroyers/carriers.

The galactic empire or republic can easily outnumber the entire UNSC and Covenant, even pre-war.

Yeah. The UNSC only has 2000 ships pre-war. The Covenant we do not really know, but I do not imagine it being any more than 5000 due to how many ships they chose to send against Humanity in large battles. If they had that many vessels then they would send fleets of hundreds every time and utterly crush Humanity at every turn. They did not, and were even concerned that defeating Humanity would take everything they had. (As they wanted the Halo Wars Forerunner Fleet so badly from what Regret says)

  • 10.30.2011 10:28 AM PDT