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Subject: Halo vs Star Wars. Who wins?


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Posted by: ForerunnerDidact
It's extremely simple, as Cmdr has stated, The Galactic Empire would defeat the UNSC and Covenant, this is where their numbers truely shine. However, Forerunners are overpowered to the extent that they now are on Culture level. I believe the amount of ships they have almost equal Star Wars's population when in their prime( forerunners ).

Not possible Galactic empire wont be able to defeat covenant...
Plus the unsc has Mac cannons to protect their earth and also nukes which pwn every1 and the galactic empire dosent.
Nope, how about the Death star just destroys the Earth when it is out of the SMAC's range, as if they would damage the Death Star at all with it's advanced shielding.

I would love to see a SMAC destroy the millions of star destroys the Empire has at disposal, it would take 9 SMAC to fire all at once to down the shields of an Imperial Star Destroyer looking at the damage they can output and how much the Star destroyers shields can withstand, and another shot to take it down, If it were even one second off, the shields would be back online.

I really don't want to go into my star wars rage mode but You have the be an idiot if you think the UNSC or Covenant can even come close to taking down the Empire, hell even the Rebels can take down your Covenant armada.

  • 10.30.2011 11:01 AM PDT

Eh, I'm curious to where the "They'd come back online within a second." came from <_<.

  • 10.30.2011 11:22 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Eh, I'm curious to where the "They'd come back online within a second." came from <_<.
I'll show you in a sec, give me a minute.

My bad, I got my numbers wrong, It was actually 3 SMAC's at once to down a ISDII.
ISDII shields are designed to be able to withstand a full half an hour of another ISDII pounding the hell out of em with everything it's got.

An ISDII can dish out roughly 740,000,000 megatons per second spread across it's guns. put that another way, that's 50,000,000,000x the power of hiroshima every second.

Cairo Station's gun had a firepower of 9.98 teratons, Acclamator shields can withstand 16.7 teratons of force at peak efficiency, so it would take 2 Cairo stations to hit it simultaneously in order to penetrate and a third to take the ship down, if the shots are so much as a split-second apart the Acclamator will withstand it but it's shields will feel the strain. That is just an Acclamator, an ISDII has shields that could go up to 20 teratons, so it might take even more shots.


[Edited on 10.30.2011 11:36 AM PDT]

  • 10.30.2011 11:27 AM PDT

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What about Tyber Zann's gauss weapons? They were super effective and less powerfull I believe.

  • 10.30.2011 11:52 AM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 100
What about Tyber Zann's gauss weapons? They were super effective and less powerfull I believe.


It's debatable if a mass driver style weapon could pierce ship shields.

That's because cap-ships use both types of shielding, anti-projectile and anti-energy weapon.

On the ground perhaps, but in space maybe not so much.

  • 10.30.2011 12:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
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I've got a bad feeling about this...

Fantastic quote :)
Star Wars wins hands down. Jedi and Sith own everyone down with the Force, clones are better than marines, battle droids can be manufactured and weapons are better in general.

And the Death Star can destroy planets, in one shot...

Forerunner INFANTRY can destroy planets. I seriously don't think the Galactic Empire would stand up against the Forerunner Army.

Given that a single containment fleet numbered in the trillions... the Navy probably had ships out the ass.

The Ark can manufacture a Halo in two/three months. Imagine what would happen if that foundry's ancilla was instructed to build ships.
>.<

Forerunners win. That is all.


/thread

  • 10.30.2011 12:06 PM PDT

Life. It sucks. Case closed bro.

Forerunners. Halo's can destroy all sentient life in a piece of the galaxy. The galactic Empire can only destroy one planet at a time once in a while

  • 10.30.2011 12:10 PM PDT


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Forerunner INFANTRY can destroy planets. I seriously don't think the Galactic Empire would stand up against the Forerunner Army.


I believe that line has been proven false.


Posted by: skullfinder
Forerunners. Halo's can destroy all sentient life in a piece of the galaxy. The galactic Empire can only destroy one planet at a time once in a while


Actually, the halo array cannot harm the Star Wars galaxy. It'd kill the humans, but that's it. Because the other species of Star Wars are not in the index, thus they aren't in the targeting 'system'.

Also, the Galactic Empire can utterly ruin planets to the point where they cannot be inhabited many years later with a few Star Destroyers in a few hours.

  • 10.30.2011 12:37 PM PDT
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"but you already knew that, I mean, how couldn't you?

Only when no Human brick is left atop another, shall we be satisfied with your destruction.

This is still going?

Humm, please see my posts starting on page 25 for a more in-depth reply, if you can be bothered.

It's a strange double-curbstomp situation going here:
Any major Star Wars faction would run roughshod over the UNSC and Covenant, they would be a speedbump nothing more.
The Forerunner could wipe out all life in the Corusca galaxy in short order, and no major faction in Star Wars could prevent it.

It's unfair both ways.

  • 10.30.2011 12:39 PM PDT

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The Halo Array + Flood.

No one wins, everyone dies.

The Halo Array targets the nervous system of any sentient being.
The Flood hijacks the Nervous system of any sentient being.

Given that EVERY sentient in both universes has a Nervous System, everyone dies.

[Edited on 10.30.2011 12:44 PM PDT]

  • 10.30.2011 12:40 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Besides, the Galaxy Gun would blow up the Halos after exiting Slipspace.

  • 10.30.2011 12:43 PM PDT


Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
The Halo Array + Flood.

No one wins, everyone dies.

The Halo Array targets the Nervous System of any sentient being, same with the Flood.
Given that EVERY sentient in both universes has a Nervous System, everyone dies.


Halo Array targets the nervous systems of indexed species, meaning they'd kill humans, nothing more in the SW galaxy.

Flood, they could work, but you have a few situations.

A: They enter as infection stage only. Then they get stomped because unlike the Forerunners, the Republic and/or Empire would treat it as a real threat, not a joke.
B: They enter with some combat forms and a protogravemind. Worse, but see above.
C: They enter as massive invasion force. Then your precious forerunners/halo factions are gone because the only way to spawn that many flood combat forms/gravemind would be to consume the others.

  • 10.30.2011 12:45 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Please stop reviving this thread people. A reasonable conclusion was drawn pages ago.

It's an Unstoppable Force meeting an Object of Questionable Movability. Force vs Precursors is what the whole thing will come down to and at that point Halo supporters maintain that Precursor are absolutely invincible.

[Edited on 10.30.2011 12:47 PM PDT]

  • 10.30.2011 12:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Halo Array targets the nervous systems of indexed species, meaning they'd kill humans, nothing more in the SW galaxy.


Source, please.

For my claim, Halo Encyclopedia pages 170-174.

[Edited on 10.30.2011 12:48 PM PDT]

  • 10.30.2011 12:46 PM PDT

It could also be speculated that the Index must therefore be used to correctly fire the Halos as it contains a record of all the species which Halo must target. The Monitors state that the Flood can only be stopped by starving them of sentient hosts; the Index, with its compilation of all sentient life in the galaxy, could instruct Halo to target them in the event of activation.

If the index is the record of all sentient life forms, and it MUST be inserted to activate the halo's weapon, then it also must be the "What we target."

So yes, unless Twi'leks, Bothans, Wookiees, Jawas, are all in the index for a specific halo ring, it's doubtful it'd affect them.

  • 10.30.2011 12:54 PM PDT

This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends;
Not with a bang but a whimper.

Forerunner tech > Starwars tech

/thread

  • 10.30.2011 1:00 PM PDT

Generalizations.
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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
It could also be speculated that the Index must therefore be used to correctly fire the Halos as it contains a record of all the species which Halo must target. The Monitors state that the Flood can only be stopped by starving them of sentient hosts; the Index, with its compilation of all sentient life in the galaxy, could instruct Halo to target them in the event of activation.

If the index is the record of all sentient life forms, and it MUST be inserted to activate the halo's weapon, then it also must be the "What we target."

So yes, unless Twi'leks, Bothans, Wookiees, Jawas, are all in the index for a specific halo ring, it's doubtful it'd affect them.


The Index is not confirmed to hold the record of all Sentient life. That is merely speculation from the Halo 3 Terminals. There is no canon to support it.
Your quote, taken from Halo: Nation, itself states is it SPECULATION, not canon.

It's already stated on pages 170-174 on the Halo Encyclopedia that the Halo Array targets the nervous system of any sentient being. I have a source, you do not.

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Even if your theory is true, that means the entire Galactic Empire is wiped out, since it's made of Humans. That means no Star Destroyers or Death Star, no Storm Troopers/ clones, ext.

The Flood's main enemy, the Galactic Empire/ Republic, would be killed, including human Jedi & Sith.
I don't think the remaining species would stand a chance against the Flood. If the Forerunners couldn't, I doubt Wookies could.
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Either way, everyone dies.

My Theory- Halo kills everything, Flood starve, everyone ends up dead.

Your Theory- Halo kills Humans, No more Galactic Empire, Flood are unmatched in their power. Everything gets infected, Flood starves, everyone ends up dead.

  • 10.30.2011 1:20 PM PDT

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  • 10.30.2011 1:40 PM PDT

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Well I think the forerunners beat star wars in terms of architecture and furniture.

  • 10.30.2011 3:29 PM PDT


Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
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Even if your theory is true, that means the entire Galactic Empire is wiped out, since it's made of Humans. That means no Star Destroyers or Death Star, no Storm Troopers/ clones, ext.

The Flood's main enemy, the Galactic Empire/ Republic, would be killed, including human Jedi & Sith.
I don't think the remaining species would stand a chance against the Flood. If the Forerunners couldn't, I doubt Wookies could.
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Either way, everyone dies.

My Theory- Halo kills everything, Flood starve, everyone ends up dead.

Your Theory- Halo kills Humans, No more Galactic Empire, Flood are unmatched in their power. Everything gets infected, Flood starves, everyone ends up dead.


Um, no. You seem to forget that all the alien races and groups would simply man/take over the Star destroyers/production zones. And all the groups that stayed hidden due to being enemies of the empire would swarm out. Criminals, rebels, etc.

Also, if a Sith cannot be killed unless he wills it (Sion), the halo array wouldn't effect him :P.

My theory: Fire halo array, kill all friendlies and possibly kill group of the empire. Aliens or droids start manning the ships, halo array becomes useless.

Then again, if you do UNSC and/or Covenant vs Star wars, you don't get to use the halos anyway :P.

  • 10.30.2011 9:50 PM PDT

I honestly don't know.

Depends on whether we use the Forerunners.

  • 10.31.2011 1:02 AM PDT

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I say that what we should do for these "X v. Y" universe battles is that the OP should specify a specific timeframe within the X universe and and a timeframe within the Y universe. This should make it easier to compare

  • 10.31.2011 2:18 AM PDT

Happy Ducks Swimming In A Lake.


Posted by: hotshot revan II
Here we go again.

*watches the thread from a distance*

  • 10.31.2011 2:23 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
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Even if your theory is true, that means the entire Galactic Empire is wiped out, since it's made of Humans. That means no Star Destroyers or Death Star, no Storm Troopers/ clones, ext.

The Flood's main enemy, the Galactic Empire/ Republic, would be killed, including human Jedi & Sith.
I don't think the remaining species would stand a chance against the Flood. If the Forerunners couldn't, I doubt Wookies could.
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Either way, everyone dies.

My Theory- Halo kills everything, Flood starve, everyone ends up dead.

Your Theory- Halo kills Humans, No more Galactic Empire, Flood are unmatched in their power. Everything gets infected, Flood starves, everyone ends up dead.


Um, no. You seem to forget that all the alien races and groups would simply man/take over the Star destroyers/production zones. And all the groups that stayed hidden due to being enemies of the empire would swarm out. Criminals, rebels, etc.

Also, if a Sith cannot be killed unless he wills it (Sion), the halo array wouldn't effect him :P.

My theory: Fire halo array, kill all friendlies and possibly kill group of the empire. Aliens or droids start manning the ships, halo array becomes useless.

Then again, if you do UNSC and/or Covenant vs Star wars, you don't get to use the halos anyway :P.

Well that exchange was all about trying to take out "The Flood's main enemy," which isn't even the Empire, but the CIS and Droids. They wouldn't even notice the Rings being fired, and they're arguably the largest faction in the Star Wars universe except maybe the Vong.

  • 10.31.2011 4:25 AM PDT


Posted by: rst7503
I say that what we should do for these "X v. Y" universe battles is that the OP should specify a specific timeframe within the X universe and and a timeframe within the Y universe. This should make it easier to compare


Or specifics of Faction strength. It's been said often though, and many times ignored.

Hell, in the Reapers vs Covenant topic people started throwing in forerunners despite the fact the two factions present were clearly stated.

  • 10.31.2011 10:38 AM PDT