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Subject: Halo vs Star Wars. Who wins?

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Why don't people also debate in terms of technology, luxury, commidity and all that?

  • 10.31.2011 11:30 AM PDT

I do not back down in the face of death but I fight it

Halo will always win agianst star wars

  • 10.31.2011 12:30 PM PDT

Halo wins:
Step 1. Hide in shield world
Step 2. Fire Halo array

  • 10.31.2011 12:37 PM PDT
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Why are you asking this on a Bungie website? Of course people are going to pick Halo, half the website is compromised of Halo.

  • 10.31.2011 2:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan 100
Why don't people also debate in terms of technology, luxury, commidity and all that?

Good question. It is always who has the biggest gun. Why not have a more rounded debate comparing each universe's pros and cons?

  • 10.31.2011 4:09 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

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Posted by: Spartan 100
Why don't people also debate in terms of technology, luxury, commidity and all that?

Good question. It is always who has the biggest gun. Why not have a more rounded debate comparing each universe's pros and cons?

The ability to make calls and start your car with the iPhone476 is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

  • 10.31.2011 4:22 PM PDT

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This vs This

  • 10.31.2011 4:38 PM PDT


Posted by: AmiableWolf
Halo wins:
Step 1. Hide in shield world
Step 2. Fire Halo array
Step 1. Send droids out to fight in the front.
Step 2. Cloning procedures
Step 3. Create another quintillion man army
Step 4. ????
Step 5. Profit!

  • 10.31.2011 5:39 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 100
This vs This
Fixed.

I love how there is no way the Halo universe can win without the Forerunner or Precursors. Almost any faction the Star Wars universe can take on the Covenant and win.

  • 10.31.2011 5:42 PM PDT

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People who vote Halo know nothing about Star Wars.

  • 10.31.2011 10:55 PM PDT

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And what do you know of Halo Tucker?

As of right now, there are only 4 or 5 things that could withstand the empire:
Ancient humans, Ancient San'shyuum, foreruners, precursors, flood.
Maybe add another one, [:)]

Hey, the forerunners have cool furniture! Imagine you enter this room, and it's empty. But you put your hand open infront of you facing down and where your shadow casts, the floor deforms and moves up into a pillar and then flowers like a mushroom and becomes a table.
How about that for furniture? Or you got the walls that disipate!

  • 10.31.2011 11:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: GAMERXD001
I'll be fair...This Time.


This should be amusing...

UNSC Pre-Human-Covenant War = Star wars

You are comparing a polity with around 800 worlds under it's banner to polities with over 1,000,000 worlds under their flags, and those larger polites have better equipment as well.

For instance SW ships firepower is in the Gigaton-Teraton range, depending on the class of vessel, Covenant ships are in the Megaton-Gigaton range if we ignore the Reach datapads (I am inclined to.) UNSC ships are less powerful than Covenant ones.

The UNSC cannot compete with any major SW faction millitarily or industrially.

Covenant Pre-Human Covenant War = or > Star Wars
(Technological advantange)


As above with repects to the scale issue, the Covenant is larger than the UNSC, but it's not on the same Galaxy-Spanning scale as the SW nations are.

The Covenant have no meaningful technological advantages either.

UNSC during Human-Covenant War < Star Wars

Covenant during Human-Covenant War = or > Star Wars


As above.

UNSC after Human-Covenant War > Star Wars
(No Competition)


You believe Earth and a couple of other surviving colonies can take on any galaxy-spanning polity and win? By itself?? With bugger-all fleet left too???

Not sure if trolling or just very very stupid...

Covenant after Human-Covenant War > Star Wars
(No Competition)


The Covenant after the war is a fractured mess, it would be less threatening than it was before, it is no threat to any contemporary SW faction.

Flood > Clones/Stormtroopers

This is the first correct thing you have said, +1.

Flood < Droids
(Not as good against inorganics)


Depends on the Droid, I'd give the Flood combat forms good odds against B1s or similar.

Sentinals < Star Wars

By themselves??? Umm, sure, you may be right but that's a really odd comparison...

Precursors > Star Wars

We have no data on the Precursors, for all we know they did not posess a single warship. No conclusion can be drawn.

Forerunners Pre-Flood War > Star Wars

Correct, the Forerunner Ecumene could easily defeat any contemporary SW faction.

Forerunners during Flood War = Star Wars
(Low population but same advanced tech)


No, when you have a Halo array your population is irrelevant, only your industrial capability and strategic speed is of consequence.

Halo Array > Death Star

Correct.

Overall.

With Ancients: Halo Wins
Without Ancients: Star Wars Wins


Amasingly, this is the correct conclusion :P Up at the top with "UNSC > SW" I wasn't sure you'd reach it.

  • 11.01.2011 10:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: ForerunnerDidact
However, Forerunners are overpowered to the extent that they now are on Culture level.


Wait.... What??

No, Not even close, they are more like the GFCF or the Nariscene, the Culture is much more capable than you are giving it credit for here.

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

If the index is the record of all sentient life forms, and it MUST be inserted to activate the halo's weapon, then it also must be the "What we target."


That;s a very big jump to a conclusion there mate, especially when Halo is stated to kill "All Sentient life" explicitly.

It would seem more likely that the index is either a failsafe (ie: you must insert it to prove all these species have been safely indexed for reseeding), an encrypted key-code, or if it is a target list that it is an index of all known neurological structures and approximate structures. (ie a "destroy any matter in this pattern/configuration) This last option would give a reason why Halo could affect Precursor structures built on "neural physics" -if it's a pattern-inhibitor or similar theoretical weapon then it could disrupt anything with the appropriate configuration.
It also explains why it would destroy the higher (thinking) forms of Flood.

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Posted by: Spartan 100
Why don't people also debate in terms of technology, luxury, commidity and all that?


Because the person with the bigger stick can take the cool gadgets, to the victor goes the spoils and all that.

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Posted by: strawnee
Halo will always win agianst star wars


No.
Contemporary Halo factions would not even be a speed bump to any major SW faction, the UNSC/Covenant are simply on a smaller scale, they are not galaxy-spanning polities.

  • 11.01.2011 10:57 AM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
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Posted by: Spartan 100
And what do you know of Halo Tucker?

As of right now, there are only 4 or 5 things that could withstand the empire:
Ancient humans, Ancient San'shyuum, foreruners, precursors, flood.
Maybe add another one, [:)]

Hey, the forerunners have cool furniture! Imagine you enter this room, and it's empty. But you put your hand open infront of you facing down and where your shadow casts, the floor deforms and moves up into a pillar and then flowers like a mushroom and becomes a table.
How about that for furniture? Or you got the walls that disipate!
Plenty when it comes to the Covenant and the UNSC. We know next to nothing about the ancient civilisations of Halo so I think it's pretty stupid to make assumptions that they're more powerful than the technology in Star Wars.

  • 11.01.2011 5:58 PM PDT

I just find it stupid that people think the Covenant and UNSC could match up, they'd get exterminated, casualties for the Empire wouldn't even come close to those of the Covenant and UNSC.

UNSC pre-war: 2000 ships
Covenant pre-war: Tens of thousands

Imperial Navy :HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS

The numbers alone give them an advantage, don't even get me started on the Firepower. If the Empire were to launch an Invasion on Earth, I can say we would indeed lose a few ISDII's to the SMAC's stationed around the planet, it takes about 3-4 shots to down one, and since Earth has about 300 of them, we will have some casualties, although it will eventually be an utter failure, the Turbolasers will gut home fleet and the SMAC's like Swiss cheese.

I'm not even sure it takes 3 SMAC rounds to down an ISDII anymore, since they were immensely weakened by the data pads on Reach. Orbital Defense MAC guns are 51.6 gigatons per shot now(they used to be 9.98 Teratons), and those can punch through 2 covenant ships and cripple a third.

If they are 51.6 gigatons, it would take dozens, if not hundreds of SMAC shots to down an ISDII.

Homefleet would be like an army shooting at kids.

Shipboard MAC guns are now only 1.19 megatons per shot (they used to be 1.17 teratons) while Turbolaser shot from an Acclamator have 200,000 megatons or 200 gigatons, which has 12 guns and has a firing rate of roughly 60 shots per minute with a range of 180,000,000km.

If the UNSC wasn't nerfed in Reach by the Data pads, MAC's would have been five times stronger than a Turbolaser, a teraton is 1,000,000 megatons, although now they are only 1/200th of a turbolasers strength(REALLY NERFED HARD)

But lets play it as if they weren't nerfed, still wouldn't be a problem, homefleet's MAC's would be out of range to fire on the Imperial fleet, MAC's can't fire at a range of 180,000,000km. They don't have multiple cannons that fire at a rate of one shot per minute either.

Lets say they were in range, Acclamator shields can withstand 16.7 teratons of force, it would take about 16 hits from Homefleet's ships or 2 shots from the SMACs.

All this time I've been talking about Acclamators, I haven't even gotten to the ISDII, An Imperial II Star Destroyer has 8 main octuple barreled guns, but it has 36 other turbolasers scattered across it's surface, and that doesn't include the 100+ point defense guns.

If this were a land battle, the Empire would have too many troops. During the Clone wars, the Republic had around 10 quadrillion clones. The ICS puts the Imperial army in the quintillions and Lord Vader said the stormtroopers outnumber the clones by 100 to 1. Do you realize how many troops that is?

No competition.

  • 11.01.2011 7:12 PM PDT

A side note, Karen Traviss worked on Star Wars and she was the one who said the Republic had 3 million troops which was utterly retconned =P

  • 11.01.2011 7:14 PM PDT

I'd like to say Halo.

  • 11.01.2011 7:52 PM PDT

star wars

  • 11.01.2011 7:56 PM PDT

This is how easy the Empire would win

  • 11.01.2011 8:54 PM PDT

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I don't like the idea of futuristic magic from the past..
so I think I'll go with halo.

  • 11.02.2011 2:57 AM PDT

the halo arrays are the top of technology i mean they can destroy all intelligent life in the galaxy secondly the games and books don't tell how massive the covenant really are and the forerunners technology is way more advanced than star wars

  • 11.02.2011 11:04 AM PDT

If only it was that easy, story teller.

"It's not about the languages you know, but the concepts that reside within all of them.


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Posted by: ajw34307
I've got a bad feeling about this...

Fantastic quote :)
Star Wars wins hands down. Jedi and Sith own everyone down with the Force, clones are better than marines, battle droids can be manufactured and weapons are better in general.

And the Death Star can destroy planets, in one shot...

Forerunner INFANTRY can destroy planets. I seriously don't think the Galactic Empire would stand up against the Forerunner Army.

Given that a single containment fleet numbered in the trillions... the Navy probably had ships out the ass.

The Ark can manufacture a Halo in two/three months. Imagine what would happen if that foundry's ancilla was instructed to build ships.
>.<

Forerunners win. That is all.



Hahaha this was a good post, for sure. But to the point, I prefer Halo. (It's a very close call though, for sure).

  • 11.02.2011 12:11 PM PDT
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Only when no Human brick is left atop another, shall we be satisfied with your destruction.


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Forerunner INFANTRY can destroy planets. I seriously don't think the Galactic Empire would stand up against the Forerunner Army.


Ahahaha, Hahaha! HAHAHAHA!

'scuse me

hehehe, the comedy writes itself...

No, Forerunner infantry can't destroy planets, what have you been smoking?
(it musta been pretty strong...)

Given that a single containment fleet numbered in the trillions... the Navy probably had ships out the ass.

ONE warship, ONE. Trillions of observation drones/sentinals.

The Ark can manufacture a Halo in two/three months. Imagine what would happen if that foundry's ancilla was instructed to build ships.

And the Empire constructed the 900-odd km diameter Death Star II in under 6 months, in secret. An object that masses considerably more than a Halo ring.

Both sides have an obscene industrial capacity.

  • 11.02.2011 12:56 PM PDT

I'm in the clan halosmostwanted if you want to join go to halosmostwanted.com and also we have a 1v1 tournament to win halo4 opon release see me on xboxlive isaiahrd1996 or the bite for details

wow...everyone knows halo wins over dumb lil kid star wars -.- by infinity% AND BEYOND% and star wars would lose kinda like this :star wars trooper squad: attack!!! grunt: wf there more dumb then us? *grunt throws plama frag* troopers: OMG RETREAT!!!! *boom* halo wins XD

  • 11.02.2011 1:15 PM PDT

I'm in the clan halosmostwanted if you want to join go to halosmostwanted.com and also we have a 1v1 tournament to win halo4 opon release see me on xboxlive isaiahrd1996 or the bite for details

and also everyone forgot HALO HAS THE HALOS TO KILL ALL SENTAINT STAR WARS PEOPLE FROM THE GALAXY!!!!!!!!!!!! you lose star wars...YOU LOSE >:c

  • 11.02.2011 1:18 PM PDT