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Subject: Who would win Clone Republic Commando or a Spartan?


Posted by: AtomicCardinal

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Posted by: Omanisat
Spartan. Hands down. Mjolnir armour has energy shields and is resistant to bullets and explosions. Clone armour can be beaten by teddy bears with stone clubs. The clones also use weaponry that is vastly inferior to the Spartan's.


Storm Trooper Armour is actually quite resistant to bullets; in the rest of SW fluff it takes a lucky shot to the eyes to penetrate ith slug throwers.

As to what happened on Endor, the poor imperial bastards stationed there were fighting Ewoks. These little terrors cannonicly use force storms, shrink people, And have an artifact that can control half of the Empire. They work the 2nd hardest material In the SW universe; endor's trees, trees that can take the impact of a full speed jet bike without a scratch. The Ewoks can work these tree's with stone tools, and can lift them high into the air to use against combat walkers. And to top it all off, they wear solidified Wank!

Never underestimate the Endorian Horrors.


Also, the Clone Commando's blaster is leagues above what the Spartans normally carry.


In the end the Spartan could win thanks to his aguments and power armour, but this isn't exactly a huge curbstomp in his favor.


The clone's were augmented in a differnt way. Although they didn't have metal grafted on to their bones to keep them from braking, they did have their genes tampered with. They came from arguably the most leathal bounty hunter in the SW universe Jango Fett. Then the Kaminoans took his genes and tampered with them making them hyperlethal, brilliant, and resistant to severe pain. There training was deadly. No dummy round was used in their expence. It was normal for a commando to get killed in a training exercise. According to the Kaminoans this made to were the strongest survived to be put into teams if the Kaminoans didnt get to them first.


It was my understanding the gene modding they underwent was to make them A: grow quicker and B: obediant. As for where the genetic material came from, who cares? They may look like Fett, but without his experiance and training, that's all they have in common.

And since when is getting killed in training a measure of quality? None of the Spartan IIs were killed in training, it was the augmentation that got them.

  • 05.06.2011 1:12 PM PDT

This is also where these Vs. break down; equipment. If I gave Pikachu a nuclear warhead it would win. So how about this? No weapons, no armour, just their own bodies and training: who would win?

  • 05.06.2011 1:15 PM PDT


Posted by: Omanisat

Posted by: AtomicCardinal

Posted by: Pewter

Posted by: Omanisat
Spartan. Hands down. Mjolnir armour has energy shields and is resistant to bullets and explosions. Clone armour can be beaten by teddy bears with stone clubs. The clones also use weaponry that is vastly inferior to the Spartan's.


Storm Trooper Armour is actually quite resistant to bullets; in the rest of SW fluff it takes a lucky shot to the eyes to penetrate ith slug throwers.

As to what happened on Endor, the poor imperial bastards stationed there were fighting Ewoks. These little terrors cannonicly use force storms, shrink people, And have an artifact that can control half of the Empire. They work the 2nd hardest material In the SW universe; endor's trees, trees that can take the impact of a full speed jet bike without a scratch. The Ewoks can work these tree's with stone tools, and can lift them high into the air to use against combat walkers. And to top it all off, they wear solidified Wank!

Never underestimate the Endorian Horrors.


Also, the Clone Commando's blaster is leagues above what the Spartans normally carry.


In the end the Spartan could win thanks to his aguments and power armour, but this isn't exactly a huge curbstomp in his favor.


The clone's were augmented in a differnt way. Although they didn't have metal grafted on to their bones to keep them from braking, they did have their genes tampered with. They came from arguably the most leathal bounty hunter in the SW universe Jango Fett. Then the Kaminoans took his genes and tampered with them making them hyperlethal, brilliant, and resistant to severe pain. There training was deadly. No dummy round was used in their expence. It was normal for a commando to get killed in a training exercise. According to the Kaminoans this made to were the strongest survived to be put into teams if the Kaminoans didnt get to them first.


It was my understanding the gene modding they underwent was to make them A: grow quicker and B: obediant. As for where the genetic material came from, who cares? They may look like Fett, but without his experiance and training, that's all they have in common.

And since when is getting killed in training a measure of quality? None of the Spartan IIs were killed in training, it was the augmentation that got them.


Yes it was to make them grow quicker and make them obediant, but that was the extint of the modifications for the normal troopers, not the commandos. The Kaminoans took it alot further for the commandos. They not only have his genes (the ones that make him such a good bounty hunter) but the Kaminoans also added genes alowing them to be more effecient. If the clones were to weak they were killed off by the kaminoans leaving the lucky ones to begin training. Fett and a few of his closest friends trained the commandos. They used live roundes to signify actual combat. They made it were there was no mistakes. To make a mistake equals death.

  • 05.06.2011 1:22 PM PDT


Posted by: Omanisat
This is also where these Vs. break down; equipment. If I gave Pikachu a nuclear warhead it would win. So how about this? No weapons, no armour, just their own bodies and training: who would win?


HMMM.... I think I would have to give it to the Spartans after the augmentation. To the Commandos before the augmentation.

  • 05.06.2011 1:24 PM PDT

They were 12-14 years old at the time of augmentation, and I still think you're selling them short.

  • 05.06.2011 1:27 PM PDT


Posted by: Omanisat
They were 12-14 years old at the time of augmentation, and I still think you're selling them short.


Thanks for that reminder. I forgot what age they were at the time of the augmentation.

So at the same age before the augmentation I would still say it would be the Commandos.

  • 05.06.2011 1:35 PM PDT

Commandos and Spartans are so similar I actually get the feeling LucasArts was looking at Halo for the design of the game. It was like Halo but with Trandoshans and Seperatists.

But from my understanding, Spartans are much, much quicker.

  • 05.06.2011 1:52 PM PDT
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"There are some walls, and some ceilings; wait! only one ceiling."

Not to mention the tactical training Spartans received. The training AI Deja was there for something.

AND they took out plain clothes soldiers before they were even augmented with rocks.

  • 05.06.2011 2:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: chotato
smart, interesting, seems out of place.


Official fan of Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, (Problem with that?) Halo, and Bungie, also a total gaming junkie.

Spartan.

  • 05.06.2011 3:24 PM PDT
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I'm gonna finish it. Just like Jigga did to the pyramid.

are republic commandos super-duper genetically modified elite soldiers whose bones do not shatter? are they equiped with the last MJOLNIR MK. 5/6 armour with shielding?
no?
well spartans are

  • 05.06.2011 3:29 PM PDT

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Definitely Spartans. For one they are much faster then a Republic Commando, they're probably better at hand-to-hand combat, and on top of it they could easily dodge the blaster bullets. So far any SW game I've played I've always been able to dodge blaster rifle fire pretty easily, and I'm not even genetically augmented.

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  • 05.06.2011 3:34 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: ALI217
are republic commandos super-duper genetically modified elite soldiers whose bones do not shatter? are they equiped with the last MJOLNIR MK. 5/6 armour with shielding?
no?
well spartans are


Biased much?

They have energy shielding too, they are genetically engineered before they are even born. Katarn Commando armor could be tougher than MJOLNIR for all we know, they also have integrated camouflage on their armors.

You should educate yourself in both Halo and Star Wars lores before you go around making statements like that.

  • 05.06.2011 3:40 PM PDT

The "Endor Incident" is easily explained: Clone/Stormtrooper armour is garbage. It offers no benefit or protection, all it is a full body radio.

  • 05.06.2011 3:43 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: Omanisat
The "Endor Incident" is easily explained: Clone/Stormtrooper armour is garbage. It offers no benefit or protection, all it is a full body radio.


That was obviously for the sake of plot, what would you prefer?

A: Good guys and natives kill the bad guys and have a happy ending or.

B: Bad guys absolutely destroy the good guys and the natives in a one sided battle with superior weapons and armor, thus making evil rule supreme forever.

  • 05.06.2011 3:48 PM PDT

A: Happy sunshine version.

B: Reality.

How the Empire ever managed to take over the galaxy with it's little toy soldiers I'll never know...

  • 05.06.2011 3:52 PM PDT

Ok. First off these are Republic Commandos NOT Imperial Storm Troopers. So dont talk about the Endor conflict. Storm troopers are panzys compared to Republic Commandos. Also the Endor conflict was in a different time frame. The two are unrelated so stop posting things about the Ewoks!!

  • 05.09.2011 2:02 PM PDT


Posted by: KRUPT0
Not to mention the tactical training Spartans received. The training AI Deja was there for something.

AND they took out plain clothes soldiers before they were even augmented with rocks.


Commandos had tactical training at an age younger than the spartans. The Commandos were pitted against combat droids (not the ones in they fight in the war) and were told to survive. the droids used live rounds. Needless to say those who survived werent dead.

  • 05.09.2011 2:06 PM PDT

Remember kids, a large majority Stormtroopers are NOT clones and aren't as smart or physically fit.

  • 05.09.2011 2:07 PM PDT


Posted by: Buzz the Fuzz
Remember kids, a large majority Stormtroopers are NOT clones and aren't as smart or physically fit.


Agreed.

  • 05.09.2011 2:09 PM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Posted by: ALI217
are republic commandos super-duper genetically modified elite soldiers whose bones do not shatter? are they equiped with the last MJOLNIR MK. 5/6 armour with shielding?
no?
well spartans are


Biased much?

They have energy shielding too, they are genetically engineered before they are even born. Katarn Commando armor could be tougher than MJOLNIR for all we know, they also have integrated camouflage on their armors.

You should educate yourself in both Halo and Star Wars lores before you go around making statements like that.


Since when the hell did standard issue Katarn class armor have Active Camo? Why can't I use that in the game?

Would have saved my ass quite a few times.

It seems to me like the AC armor was an upgraded, specialized version for people like Sev, who enjoyed long distance hunting, while hiding in a bush, waiting to put a plasma bolt through a hostile's cranium. Makes him feel alive.

In terms of armor:

Both have shields, both are susceptible to energy weapons, but only one gives you enchanced strength and speed. In that regard, the MJOLNIR is more advanced.

  • 05.09.2011 2:18 PM PDT
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i love playing halo to my rock music its a fungasm

HELL YES!!!!!!

  • 05.09.2011 2:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

How is this even a question?

If the stormtroopers could actually hit something...

  • 05.09.2011 2:32 PM PDT

Weaponry and Armor the Commandos win hands down.

They would probably use the E-11 blaster. On Maximum power the E-11 becomes like a full auto brute-shot complete with the Area of Effect. Or they would use the DC-17m which can change into several different types of weapons in seconds.

Proof

Laser simply beats Bullets in all categories.

The Assault rifle would not be able to penetrate such armor as that of the Katarn Class armor the Commandos use.

Their armor was described as the more expensive and provided better protection than standard clone armor, due to the special composition of its armor plates and the fact that due to the novel chemical properties of it, and deflector shields. It was also optimized for easy bacta insertion by handheld dispensers. It was often highly customized by the clone commandos who wore it.

It was made of Duraplast plates which was a type of metal used during production of durable equipment. It was much stronger than many other metals, and was thus widely used throughout the galaxy by Imperial and New Republic Navies. The main element used in synthesizing duraplast was carbon. It was capable of offering protection to up to light grenades, and laser cannon rounds. Duraplast could also be reinforced to be extremely resistant to EMP and Ion cannon warfare.

It's basically a set of Mark VI but could withstand lasers which the Mark VI cannot. Which also proves it could withstand bullets if it could withstand something even stronger. Lasers would simply seep through the Mark VI like Plasma but much faster. The shields of a Mark VI set bursts in a couple plasma shots, it would take 2 or 3 to break the shields let alone go through the armor.

That is all I have to say, try your best to counter.

  • 05.09.2011 2:34 PM PDT

It doesn't matter how powerful a blaster bolt is if it's too slow to hit anything. And given how powerful it is, it seems likely a Spartan would work to get his hands on one.

  • 05.09.2011 2:36 PM PDT

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