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Subject: Should Reach's fleet have retreated to Earth?

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  • 05.09.2011 7:36 PM PDT

In terms of military assets Reach was more important to Earth. It housed over 50% of the UNSC's shipyards.

And if they hadn't fought at Reach, all the Covenant ships that would have been destroyed there would have been free to join the attack on Earth.

There's also the moral question of leaving the inhabitants of the planet to die. At least some of them survived when the UNSC defended the planet.

  • 05.09.2011 7:41 PM PDT

Doesn't the Unyielding Hierophant consist of 300 ships? Not 500?

  • 05.09.2011 7:43 PM PDT

cant jump to earth from the covenant. or a contact with them.

  • 05.09.2011 7:47 PM PDT

Truth would have told them at some point. As for the shipyards, their loss was a devestating blow, they had to try to keep them no matter the cost or odds.

It's also easy to sit here and dismiss the moral factor, but see it from their point of view. UNSC HIGHCOM was based on Reach. The officers would have had homes there, their families. Were they just supposed to get on a ship and fly off?

  • 05.09.2011 7:50 PM PDT

jump is nearly imidiate for both but they get to the destination many many times faster and they cant get somewhere before us even if we blind jump, they can track us somehow.


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[Edited on 05.09.2011 7:53 PM PDT]

  • 05.09.2011 7:52 PM PDT

Without the Navy's additional craft, not to mention the protection they would provide, the evacuation would have been far less effective.

They would also have been abandonning a significant amount of miltary personnel and material, at least some of which was saved. Buck would have been dead!

  • 05.09.2011 7:57 PM PDT

It's six of one, half a dozen of the other. I could just as easily say every Covenant soldier killed on Reach was one less for the invasion of Earth. Imagine if Regret's forces had been bolstered by the ships earmarked for Reach. They never would have gotten past Halo 2.

  • 05.09.2011 8:04 PM PDT

We don't know they ever had more then the one. Whitcomb said it was a prototype, likely the only one made, otherwise they would have seeded them all over Reach.

  • 05.09.2011 8:11 PM PDT

That was in Ghosts of Onyx, Halsey's journal doesn't have any entries in it after the Halo Reach level The Package.

  • 05.09.2011 8:17 PM PDT

I know, I'm looking at mine right now. There are no entries in it past the events of the level, she left it behind in her lab under Sword base and never got a chance to recover it.

The final entry in the Journal reads:

Must go.

SOON!!

Jerrod says perimeter is compromised. Base AI denies it. I'll trust Jerrod and my own security protocols!

Skeleton personnel refuse to go.

The bastards finally found us. Took long enough.

PURGE CODE is Beta-Foxtrot-998741 overrideFail-safe: Ragnarock in case something happens to me and thejournal survives.

NOBLE Team here.

It's time.
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[Edited on 05.09.2011 8:29 PM PDT]

  • 05.09.2011 8:20 PM PDT

Didact's Reprisal -
Now is the time of our unworlding
One final effort is all that remains
And I am not afraid
We shall fulfill our promise
We fight for the grace of the Mantle
And this time none of you will be left behind

They tracked a ship to Reach, right? So if the ship retreated, wouldn't they be able to track it to Earth as well? Also, assuming that the Covenant fleet would still go to Reach, it's extremely likely they would obtain the Forerunner crystal giving them an even more extreme advantage. The Super MAC cannons in orbit would've not lasted as long, (I believe) the NOVA wouldn't have been snuck aboard a Covenant ship, more of the Covenant fleet would remain, and humanity would be...well, I don't know where they would be.

  • 05.09.2011 9:58 PM PDT


Posted by: Dustin 6047
They still should have NOVA bombs on their ODPs and actually use them not save them and never use them.


Actually having ODPs launch NOVA bombs would not be very smart, remember what it did to that whole Covenant fleet and that planet in Ghosts of Onyx, it completely destroyed pretty much everything. Firing a NOVA bomb near their own planet would not be smart unless they were being used like Whitcomb was planning, IE leave them there and the completely destroy Reach and the Covenant there.

  • 05.10.2011 7:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: Dustin 6047
They still should have NOVA bombs on their ODPs and actually use them not save them and never use them.


Actually having ODPs launch NOVA bombs would not be very smart, remember what it did to that whole Covenant fleet and that planet in Ghosts of Onyx, it completely destroyed pretty much everything. Firing a NOVA bomb near their own planet would not be smart unless they were being used like Whitcomb was planning, IE leave them there and the completely destroy Reach and the Covenant there.


To be honest the UNSC should have been going on the offensive somewhat instead of pure defense. Personally i would have tried to find atleast 1 covenant planet or mass gathering of ships ships and nova bomb the nearest sun

  • 05.10.2011 11:13 AM PDT

Judging from Halo:Reach the UNSC stayed behind only to evacuate Reach of both civillians and technology.
From what I took from it the UNSC Navy arrive in order to perform a tactical retreat once the scale of the invasion was confirmed. Most likely a Harvest-style campaign would be started once Earth had been secured, had Earth not been invaded.

You have certainly under-estimated the complexity and logistical nightmare that is evacuating a planet in order to preserve the human race.
Abandoning everyone just isn't an option when numbers are so low.

  • 05.10.2011 11:24 AM PDT

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