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Subject: Comparison: Halo's Mjolnir Mk.6 vs. Crysis 2's Nanosuit Mk.2

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Oh another argument for similar strength is that they are both capable of ripping off and wielding mounted weapons, and both are slowed down as a consequence. (Possible gameplay, but I doubt it)

  • 05.10.2011 6:54 PM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

Ideally the Nano-Suit, since it adapts to micro-scopic levels to adjust with different functions to maximize performance output.. Rather then simple armour plating on the MJOLNIR.

However the need for energy and it's constant consumption of it does make the nanosuit a liability.
The shielding technology in the MJOLNIR is superior and doesn't come in the expense of other functions.

Hard choice.


[Edited on 05.10.2011 6:55 PM PDT]

  • 05.10.2011 6:54 PM PDT

What a waste....

As the first reply said, in a one on one it would be just like facing an active camo Elite.

However, the ability to mass produce and mass use nanosuits is a big benefit. The only thing close is if the UNSC could find a way around that and have all the S IIIs use MJOLNIR 6.

  • 05.10.2011 7:06 PM PDT

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The Nanosuit cannot be mass produced.

The ones that can, are much more similar to SPI, those being the Korean ones from the first game and then the CELL ones in the second. They're pretty much just advanced body armor, not full on power suits.

However, the ability to mass produce and mass use nanosuits is a big benefit. The only thing close is if the UNSC could find a way around that and have all the S IIIs use MJOLNIR 6.

The Nanosuit's you use in game are hundreds of millions of dollars, only used for super elite spec ops teams on super high risk missions.(sound familiar?)

  • 05.10.2011 7:17 PM PDT

Posted by: Makko Mace
The Nanosuit cannot be mass produced.

The ones that can, are much more similar to SPI, those being the Korean ones from the first game and then the CELL ones in the second. They're pretty much just advanced body armor, not full on power suits.

However, the ability to mass produce and mass use nanosuits is a big benefit. The only thing close is if the UNSC could find a way around that and have all the S IIIs use MJOLNIR 6.

The Nanosuit's you use in game are hundreds of millions of dollars, only used for super elite spec ops teams on super high risk missions.(sound familiar?)


This is a 1 v 1 battle...

  • 05.10.2011 8:22 PM PDT

Posted by: WhiterRain12
Posted by: That Atheist
I have to say N2 (Nano-suit 2) over MJOLNIR. If you compare the two, you'll see even a Nano-suit 1 would defeat a Spartan II (though it would be an uber-close fight).

Armour: The MJOLNIR armour is made of titanium-A, a hyper-dense, yet light weight alloy designed to resist 2000 degree celsius and massive amounts of force (aprox. 1500 newtons of force) as well as shields comprised of a plasma window, with a wall of lasers underneath, then electron aligned carbon fiber nanotubes
N2 is comprised of three layers. One is a skin tight suit of carbon fiber nano tubes (the strongest element known to man and the primary strength of Halos energy shields)and bullet resistant, shock absorbant gel that also controls the users body temprature. After this comes a layer of Coltan-Titabnium, a modified titanium alloy thats stronger, yet lighter than standred titanium. Coltan titanium is also infused with nano-machines which repair it and and is abosbant of radiation, thus protecting the user from all but the heaviest of radiological attacks.
The exterior of the suit is comprised of self repairing, semi-organic Carbon fiber nanotubes, reinforced with Coltan-titanium and carbo-platinum (A Carbon-fiber nano-tube reinforced, nano machine enhanced, self repairing platinum alloy) The suit is enhanced by Armour mode, which re-directs energy to the suits outer armor, tightening the nano-tubes and providing aditional bullet deflection and protection, as well as increasing energy to life-support and suit-repair functions. The suit is also more resistant to super-heated plasma weapons, MJOLNIR is. While Titanium-A and energy sheilds are weak to the 3000 degrees celsuis tempratures of plasma weapons, carbon fiber nano tubes in real life are resistant to nearly 4500 degrees, far more than the plasma based weapons can produce.
Armor winner: Nano-suit 2

Speed: Unfortunatly unbalance for MJOLNIR, as the Nano-suits has an entire suit mode devoted to speed.
While the fastest speed acheived on a regular basis by a Spartan equiped with MJOLNIR is 75 KM/H by Kelly-087 and the fastest speed ever acheived was 105 Km/H by John-117 during the MJOLNIR-MK.V test.
The N2 on the other hand, has a standered sprint speed of 75 KM/H and a top speed (in small 3-5 second bursts) of close 300 KM/H, easily beating MJOLNIR.
In terms of rection time the Spartans are still outmatched. While MCPO Mendez reports that Spartans in MJOLNIR can react at
0.20 millisecinds, the N2 has a twitch reflex/reaction time of 0.08 milliseconds, much faster than the MJLONIR armor.
Winner: Nano-Suit

Strenth: Ah, finally, a real battle!
MJLONIR goes first. Put simply, Spartans are beats. Cyberneticly modefied beasts to be exact. Capable of lifting three times there own body weight with out MJLONIR equiped (aprox. 1000 pounds or 450 KG), this load in MJLONIR is increased by a factor of five. Five thousand pounds. almost two and a half short tons.
Unfoutunatly for longtime Halo fans like myself, N2 is back and better than ever.
While no exact strenth is stated in game or on the Crysis website or the Crysis wikia, the N2 is capable of kicking a 2 ton taxi cab almost 10 feet into the air and twenty feet forward, with enough force to smash an 9 inch thick concrete wall.
Winner:N2

Powerplant: A complicated matter, as the Nano-suit has no powerplant, yet technically has one anyways.
The Mjolnir armor uses an advanced Fusion power-plant, cabable of powering a Scorpion tank runing at full capacity for almost ten years straight, yet small enough to fit in the palm of a Spartan (aprox. six by six inchs in size), the only known atachment to activly cause the plant to near overload when used too long is armour lock, which can only be used for fifteen seconds before fusion power plant overload.
The plant can also power the suit for close to fifteen years of continiuse use.
The N2 activly collects energy on the other hand, and is pretty good at it too. cabable of collecting energy from thermal (heat in the air, sunlight, the operators body heat), radiological (the small amount of radiation that always surrounds us, radiation souces like powerplans and items containing akaline metals) carbon (rtting bodys and other decomposing organisms, the users dying skin tissues and hair and feces are also broken down into carbon and converted ito energy) and kinetic (the users movement), as well as the bio-electricty of the user and other living beings around him/her. However, the suit energy is quickly drained by continuse strenous activity though in canon it has less energy drain than that seen in games). The MJLONIR fusion plant however is continuse energy all the time
Winner: MJLONIR, though be warned: as the suit consumes radiation, if the spartan gets too close to the user, the suit will consume the energy given off by the spartan's fusion plant, allowing the N2 user to have unlimited energy

Visor: MJOLNIR has a highly advanced HMD (Head Mounted Display) , as well as thermal, night vision and five times optical zoom and a hardened uplink capable of intercepting nearly any radio bbased signal, allowing for unprecedented communications.
The MJOLNIR armor system can also protect the user from breathing in objects as small as 900 nanometers and uses selcetive hearing "a pin drop in a sandstorm"
The N2 on the otherhand, uses "Nano-vision" a thermal-night vision hybrid that allows for 3D imagry, something no other night-vision unit, even that of MJOLNIR is capable of.
N2 also supports a more advanced HMD and an automatic read out of the suit and users status, as well as a smaller and stronger visor (MJOLNIR is comprised of super-hartdend acrylic glass, while the N2 uses see-through Carbon fiber Nano-tubes).
The N2 also has 60 times zoom and the ability to augument the users eyes using naomachines, allowing them to see in the dark and double the users visual perception. The N2 can also protect against viruses, bacteria and gases as small as 500 nano-meters (which are then broken down into carbon and used to power the suit), as well as allow the user to hear a whispered conversation from almost five hundred feet away and is cabable of intercepting almost 6000 lines of communictaion, far more than MJOLNIR.
Winner:N2

AI: Cortana vs SECOND. Oh, this is gonna be good!
Cortana strikes first, with sentience. far more advanced (according to Halo:Reach, ten times so) then her nearest Smart-AI competitor, Cortana is constantly busy and is a hacker only matched by Forerunner AI, SECOND and EDI from Mass Effect 2. Funny, sexy and smart, Cortana is always usefull to have around (sorry, i couldn't much info on her tech).
SECOND is a non-sentient AI implanted in an N2 users head when they first aquire the suit. This AI latter become sentient due to its absorbtion of the DNA of former operative Prophet. SECOND is cabable of running a 1.5 BIPS (twenty time faster than the largest and most powerful super-computer today). Being inplanted in the users head, SECOND can also control hormone levels in the users head, make an N2 operator incabable of feeling fear, pain or failure, as well as operate as a suplimentry nervous system incase the user's is damaged, making the user invulnerable parylisis and even direct barin tramua.
Winner: unknown, insefficient data on the part of Cortana

Overall winner: Nanosuit 2


Well in this case my vote goes to the N2.

  • 05.10.2011 8:25 PM PDT

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This is a 1 v 1 battle...

I never said otherwise... He said it could be mass produced and it can't.

Any way I think it's a pretty fair fight, although a Spartan is superior to any normal un augmented human, and they can move as fast as thought in thier suits, faster with an AI in fact. So although the suits are pretty equal a spartan would win.

  • 05.10.2011 8:26 PM PDT
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I always thought of the Nanosuit as a superior version of MJOLNIR due to 2 reasons.

343 Guilty Spark stated that both Mark V and VI were "Class 2 combat skins".

Forerunners also seemed to be wearing bodysuits, rather than armor as their battlefield wear.

However, seeing a 1 on 1 battle, I would say a Spartan would beat a soldier in a nanosuit.

[Edited on 05.10.2011 8:27 PM PDT]

  • 05.10.2011 8:26 PM PDT


Posted by: WhiterRain12
Posted by: That Atheist
I have to say N2 (Nano-suit 2) over MJOLNIR. If you compare the two, you'll see even a Nano-suit 1 would defeat a Spartan II (though it would be an uber-close fight).

Armour: The MJOLNIR armour is made of titanium-A, a hyper-dense, yet light weight alloy designed to resist 2000 degree celsius and massive amounts of force (aprox. 1500 newtons of force) as well as shields comprised of a plasma window, with a wall of lasers underneath, then electron aligned carbon fiber nanotubes
N2 is comprised of three layers. One is a skin tight suit of carbon fiber nano tubes (the strongest element known to man and the primary strength of Halos energy shields)and bullet resistant, shock absorbant gel that also controls the users body temprature. After this comes a layer of Coltan-Titabnium, a modified titanium alloy thats stronger, yet lighter than standred titanium. Coltan titanium is also infused with nano-machines which repair it and and is abosbant of radiation, thus protecting the user from all but the heaviest of radiological attacks.
The exterior of the suit is comprised of self repairing, semi-organic Carbon fiber nanotubes, reinforced with Coltan-titanium and carbo-platinum (A Carbon-fiber nano-tube reinforced, nano machine enhanced, self repairing platinum alloy) The suit is enhanced by Armour mode, which re-directs energy to the suits outer armor, tightening the nano-tubes and providing aditional bullet deflection and protection, as well as increasing energy to life-support and suit-repair functions. The suit is also more resistant to super-heated plasma weapons, MJOLNIR is. While Titanium-A and energy sheilds are weak to the 3000 degrees celsuis tempratures of plasma weapons, carbon fiber nano tubes in real life are resistant to nearly 4500 degrees, far more than the plasma based weapons can produce.
Armor winner: Nano-suit 2

Speed: Unfortunatly unbalance for MJOLNIR, as the Nano-suits has an entire suit mode devoted to speed.
While the fastest speed acheived on a regular basis by a Spartan equiped with MJOLNIR is 75 KM/H by Kelly-087 and the fastest speed ever acheived was 105 Km/H by John-117 during the MJOLNIR-MK.V test.
The N2 on the other hand, has a standered sprint speed of 75 KM/H and a top speed (in small 3-5 second bursts) of close 300 KM/H, easily beating MJOLNIR.
In terms of rection time the Spartans are still outmatched. While MCPO Mendez reports that Spartans in MJOLNIR can react at
0.20 millisecinds, the N2 has a twitch reflex/reaction time of 0.08 milliseconds, much faster than the MJLONIR armor.
Winner: Nano-Suit

Strenth: Ah, finally, a real battle!
MJLONIR goes first. Put simply, Spartans are beats. Cyberneticly modefied beasts to be exact. Capable of lifting three times there own body weight with out MJLONIR equiped (aprox. 1000 pounds or 450 KG), this load in MJLONIR is increased by a factor of five. Five thousand pounds. almost two and a half short tons.
Unfoutunatly for longtime Halo fans like myself, N2 is back and better than ever.
While no exact strenth is stated in game or on the Crysis website or the Crysis wikia, the N2 is capable of kicking a 2 ton taxi cab almost 10 feet into the air and twenty feet forward, with enough force to smash an 9 inch thick concrete wall.
Winner:N2

Powerplant: A complicated matter, as the Nano-suit has no powerplant, yet technically has one anyways.
The Mjolnir armor uses an advanced Fusion power-plant, cabable of powering a Scorpion tank runing at full capacity for almost ten years straight, yet small enough to fit in the palm of a Spartan (aprox. six by six inchs in size), the only known atachment to activly cause the plant to near overload when used too long is armour lock, which can only be used for fifteen seconds before fusion power plant overload.
The plant can also power the suit for close to fifteen years of continiuse use.
The N2 activly collects energy on the other hand, and is pretty good at it too. cabable of collecting energy from thermal (heat in the air, sunlight, the operators body heat), radiological (the small amount of radiation that always surrounds us, radiation souces like powerplans and items containing akaline metals) carbon (rtting bodys and other decomposing organisms, the users dying skin tissues and hair and feces are also broken down into carbon and converted ito energy) and kinetic (the users movement), as well as the bio-electricty of the user and other living beings around him/her. However, the suit energy is quickly drained by continuse strenous activity though in canon it has less energy drain than that seen in games). The MJLONIR fusion plant however is continuse energy all the time
Winner: MJLONIR, though be warned: as the suit consumes radiation, if the spartan gets too close to the user, the suit will consume the energy given off by the spartan's fusion plant, allowing the N2 user to have unlimited energy

Visor: MJOLNIR has a highly advanced HMD (Head Mounted Display) , as well as thermal, night vision and five times optical zoom and a hardened uplink capable of intercepting nearly any radio bbased signal, allowing for unprecedented communications.
The MJOLNIR armor system can also protect the user from breathing in objects as small as 900 nanometers and uses selcetive hearing "a pin drop in a sandstorm"
The N2 on the otherhand, uses "Nano-vision" a thermal-night vision hybrid that allows for 3D imagry, something no other night-vision unit, even that of MJOLNIR is capable of.
N2 also supports a more advanced HMD and an automatic read out of the suit and users status, as well as a smaller and stronger visor (MJOLNIR is comprised of super-hartdend acrylic glass, while the N2 uses see-through Carbon fiber Nano-tubes).
The N2 also has 60 times zoom and the ability to augument the users eyes using naomachines, allowing them to see in the dark and double the users visual perception. The N2 can also protect against viruses, bacteria and gases as small as 500 nano-meters (which are then broken down into carbon and used to power the suit), as well as allow the user to hear a whispered conversation from almost five hundred feet away and is cabable of intercepting almost 6000 lines of communictaion, far more than MJOLNIR.
Winner:N2

AI: Cortana vs SECOND. Oh, this is gonna be good!
Cortana strikes first, with sentience. far more advanced (according to Halo:Reach, ten times so) then her nearest Smart-AI competitor, Cortana is constantly busy and is a hacker only matched by Forerunner AI, SECOND and EDI from Mass Effect 2. Funny, sexy and smart, Cortana is always usefull to have around (sorry, i couldn't much info on her tech).
SECOND is a non-sentient AI implanted in an N2 users head when they first aquire the suit. This AI latter become sentient due to its absorbtion of the DNA of former operative Prophet. SECOND is cabable of running a 1.5 BIPS (twenty time faster than the largest and most powerful super-computer today). Being inplanted in the users head, SECOND can also control hormone levels in the users head, make an N2 operator incabable of feeling fear, pain or failure, as well as operate as a suplimentry nervous system incase the user's is damaged, making the user invulnerable parylisis and even direct barin tramua.
Winner: unknown, insefficient data on the part of Cortana

Overall winner: Nanosuit 2


Nanosuit 2 sounds a lot like a massive Gary Stu in armour form.

Also, gameplay wise, you get maybe THREE SECONDS of life once someone starts shooting you with even a standard issue assault rifle. MJOLNIR gives far longer... to the point of entire clips of small arms fire being just fatal, and it also assumes the accuracy of the weilder of said weapons is 100%.

One of the Crysis 2 trailers shows Alcatraz surviving a tank round to the shoulder... but it doesn't explode. I'm sure MJOLNIR could do the same. And John DOES punch a missile, which then EXPLODES right next to him. He nearly dies as a result, but the armour keeps him alive.

And 300km/h? That's way too fast for a human to move... almost to the point of physical impossibility. your legs would almost rip off the rest of your body... and you'd certainly lose a tendon.

[Edited on 05.10.2011 8:41 PM PDT]

  • 05.10.2011 8:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: That Atheist
Posted by: old bad dog
If there were a Mk.7 MJOLNIR, I would imagine it could beat the hell out of a N2 suit.

Yeah but there is not, so...


There is a design/concept for it...
-Next Gen fusion/plasma hybrid technology

-atmospheric insertion systems ala Section 8

-Slipspace de-insertion capability

-Active A.I. transfer protocols

-Limited shaping of Energy Shields(partial overlaps,airfoils,etc.)

Permutations included with purchase kids.


[Edited on 05.10.2011 8:53 PM PDT]

  • 05.10.2011 8:53 PM PDT
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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Posted by: Omanisat
I wasn't talking about the suit's lifespan, I meant what amount of power the suit can deliver at any moment. All of the Nanosuit's superhuman abilities are availible on a limited basis. Yes the Nanosuit can run fast, but only for a short time, yes it can lift a man with one hand, but only until it's energy reserve runs out. Mjolnir is capable of preforming these feats as a matter of course.

As for Mjolnir being more robust, a fall of 4-5 stories is enough to seriously injure someone wearing the Nanosuit, even with armour mode engaged. Spartans in Mjolnir have survived falls measuring kilometers.

No, he was already injured to begin with. Even then, he was only stunned. Play the original Crysis, you fall 25,000 feet, about 7.5 kilometers, into five feet of water, without a parachute and just get right back up, only damage was that it scrambled the HUD.
The highest a Spartan has fallen is 2 kilometers, about 6500 feet.

  • 05.10.2011 9:16 PM PDT
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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

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Posted by: That Atheist
Posted by: old bad dog
If there were a Mk.7 MJOLNIR, I would imagine it could beat the hell out of a N2 suit.

Yeah but there is not, so...


There is a design/concept for it...
-Next Gen fusion/plasma hybrid technology

-atmospheric insertion systems ala Section 8

-Slipspace de-insertion capability

-Active A.I. transfer protocols

-Limited shaping of Energy Shields(partial overlaps,airfoils,etc.)

Permutations included with purchase kids.

Nice sails pitch.

  • 05.10.2011 9:17 PM PDT

Why are you here?

It would be a close battle. But I wouldn't bet on a SPARTAN vs. a person with a Nanosuit.


[Edited on 05.10.2011 9:29 PM PDT]

  • 05.10.2011 9:19 PM PDT
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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

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Posted by: WhiterRain12
Posted by: That Atheist
I have to say N2 (Nano-suit 2) over MJOLNIR. If you compare the two, you'll see even a Nano-suit 1 would defeat a Spartan II (though it would be an uber-close fight).

Armour: The MJOLNIR armour is made of titanium-A, a hyper-dense, yet light weight alloy designed to resist 2000 degree celsius and massive amounts of force (aprox. 1500 newtons of force) as well as shields comprised of a plasma window, with a wall of lasers underneath, then electron aligned carbon fiber nanotubes
N2 is comprised of three layers. One is a skin tight suit of carbon fiber nano tubes (the strongest element known to man and the primary strength of Halos energy shields)and bullet resistant, shock absorbant gel that also controls the users body temprature. After this comes a layer of Coltan-Titabnium, a modified titanium alloy thats stronger, yet lighter than standred titanium. Coltan titanium is also infused with nano-machines which repair it and and is abosbant of radiation, thus protecting the user from all but the heaviest of radiological attacks.
The exterior of the suit is comprised of self repairing, semi-organic Carbon fiber nanotubes, reinforced with Coltan-titanium and carbo-platinum (A Carbon-fiber nano-tube reinforced, nano machine enhanced, self repairing platinum alloy) The suit is enhanced by Armour mode, which re-directs energy to the suits outer armor, tightening the nano-tubes and providing aditional bullet deflection and protection, as well as increasing energy to life-support and suit-repair functions. The suit is also more resistant to super-heated plasma weapons, MJOLNIR is. While Titanium-A and energy sheilds are weak to the 3000 degrees celsuis tempratures of plasma weapons, carbon fiber nano tubes in real life are resistant to nearly 4500 degrees, far more than the plasma based weapons can produce.
Armor winner: Nano-suit 2

Speed: Unfortunatly unbalance for MJOLNIR, as the Nano-suits has an entire suit mode devoted to speed.
While the fastest speed acheived on a regular basis by a Spartan equiped with MJOLNIR is 75 KM/H by Kelly-087 and the fastest speed ever acheived was 105 Km/H by John-117 during the MJOLNIR-MK.V test.
The N2 on the other hand, has a standered sprint speed of 75 KM/H and a top speed (in small 3-5 second bursts) of close 300 KM/H, easily beating MJOLNIR.
In terms of rection time the Spartans are still outmatched. While MCPO Mendez reports that Spartans in MJOLNIR can react at
0.20 millisecinds, the N2 has a twitch reflex/reaction time of 0.08 milliseconds, much faster than the MJLONIR armor.
Winner: Nano-Suit

Strenth: Ah, finally, a real battle!
MJLONIR goes first. Put simply, Spartans are beats. Cyberneticly modefied beasts to be exact. Capable of lifting three times there own body weight with out MJLONIR equiped (aprox. 1000 pounds or 450 KG), this load in MJLONIR is increased by a factor of five. Five thousand pounds. almost two and a half short tons.
Unfoutunatly for longtime Halo fans like myself, N2 is back and better than ever.
While no exact strenth is stated in game or on the Crysis website or the Crysis wikia, the N2 is capable of kicking a 2 ton taxi cab almost 10 feet into the air and twenty feet forward, with enough force to smash an 9 inch thick concrete wall.
Winner:N2

Powerplant: A complicated matter, as the Nano-suit has no powerplant, yet technically has one anyways.
The Mjolnir armor uses an advanced Fusion power-plant, cabable of powering a Scorpion tank runing at full capacity for almost ten years straight, yet small enough to fit in the palm of a Spartan (aprox. six by six inchs in size), the only known atachment to activly cause the plant to near overload when used too long is armour lock, which can only be used for fifteen seconds before fusion power plant overload.
The plant can also power the suit for close to fifteen years of continiuse use.
The N2 activly collects energy on the other hand, and is pretty good at it too. cabable of collecting energy from thermal (heat in the air, sunlight, the operators body heat), radiological (the small amount of radiation that always surrounds us, radiation souces like powerplans and items containing akaline metals) carbon (rtting bodys and other decomposing organisms, the users dying skin tissues and hair and feces are also broken down into carbon and converted ito energy) and kinetic (the users movement), as well as the bio-electricty of the user and other living beings around him/her. However, the suit energy is quickly drained by continuse strenous activity though in canon it has less energy drain than that seen in games). The MJLONIR fusion plant however is continuse energy all the time
Winner: MJLONIR, though be warned: as the suit consumes radiation, if the spartan gets too close to the user, the suit will consume the energy given off by the spartan's fusion plant, allowing the N2 user to have unlimited energy

Visor: MJOLNIR has a highly advanced HMD (Head Mounted Display) , as well as thermal, night vision and five times optical zoom and a hardened uplink capable of intercepting nearly any radio bbased signal, allowing for unprecedented communications.
The MJOLNIR armor system can also protect the user from breathing in objects as small as 900 nanometers and uses selcetive hearing "a pin drop in a sandstorm"
The N2 on the otherhand, uses "Nano-vision" a thermal-night vision hybrid that allows for 3D imagry, something no other night-vision unit, even that of MJOLNIR is capable of.
N2 also supports a more advanced HMD and an automatic read out of the suit and users status, as well as a smaller and stronger visor (MJOLNIR is comprised of super-hartdend acrylic glass, while the N2 uses see-through Carbon fiber Nano-tubes).
The N2 also has 60 times zoom and the ability to augument the users eyes using naomachines, allowing them to see in the dark and double the users visual perception. The N2 can also protect against viruses, bacteria and gases as small as 500 nano-meters (which are then broken down into carbon and used to power the suit), as well as allow the user to hear a whispered conversation from almost five hundred feet away and is cabable of intercepting almost 6000 lines of communictaion, far more than MJOLNIR.
Winner:N2

AI: Cortana vs SECOND. Oh, this is gonna be good!
Cortana strikes first, with sentience. far more advanced (according to Halo:Reach, ten times so) then her nearest Smart-AI competitor, Cortana is constantly busy and is a hacker only matched by Forerunner AI, SECOND and EDI from Mass Effect 2. Funny, sexy and smart, Cortana is always usefull to have around (sorry, i couldn't much info on her tech).
SECOND is a non-sentient AI implanted in an N2 users head when they first aquire the suit. This AI latter become sentient due to its absorbtion of the DNA of former operative Prophet. SECOND is cabable of running a 1.5 BIPS (twenty time faster than the largest and most powerful super-computer today). Being inplanted in the users head, SECOND can also control hormone levels in the users head, make an N2 operator incabable of feeling fear, pain or failure, as well as operate as a suplimentry nervous system incase the user's is damaged, making the user invulnerable parylisis and even direct barin tramua.
Winner: unknown, insefficient data on the part of Cortana

Overall winner: Nanosuit 2


Nanosuit 2 sounds a lot like a massive Gary Stu in armour form.

Also, gameplay wise, you get maybe THREE SECONDS of life once someone starts shooting you with even a standard issue assault rifle. MJOLNIR gives far longer... to the point of entire clips of small arms fire being just fatal, and it also assumes the accuracy of the weilder of said weapons is 100%.

One of the Crysis 2 trailers shows Alcatraz surviving a tank round to the shoulder... but it doesn't explode. I'm sure MJOLNIR could do the same. And John DOES punch a missile, which then EXPLODES right next to him. He nearly dies as a result, but the armour keeps him alive.

And 300km/h? That's way too fast for a human to move... almost to the point of physical impossibility. your legs would almost rip off the rest of your body... and you'd certainly lose a tendon.

One: You have to remember there s no cannon Nanosuit, unlike MJOLNIR, there is no book that specifically outlines the capabilities of the N2, so we have to go with what the developers, game guides and gameplay.

Two: In cannon, according to the developers, the N2 can sustain a direct hit from an anti-tank missile and get back up, what you stated simply for gameplay purposes.

Three: John punches the missile so it explodes behind him, not right beside him. As for the non-exploding tank round, that was a cinematic used only in the trailer, not in game, so we don't even know if it is cannon or not. (there is a similar scene in the games opening, however, it is a 50 caliber round, not an 120mm tank shell.)

Four: The Nanosuit uses Nano-Technology to automatically augment the users body, which is what allows for the enhanced speed and strength to happen without the users body being ripped apart. Even then, it can only sustain speeds of 300+km/h for about five to seven seconds at best. Still far faster than the MJOLNIR suit though, which is

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Posted by: ninjakenzen
Ideally the Nano-Suit, since it adapts to micro-scopic levels to adjust with different functions to maximize performance output.. Rather then simple armour plating on the MJOLNIR.

However the need for energy and it's constant consumption of it does make the nanosuit a liability.
The shielding technology in the MJOLNIR is superior and doesn't come in the expense of other functions.

Hard choice.

For the power consumption issue, if you could find a constant power source for the N2, say a battlefield covered in rotting corpses or a room filled with massive amounts of radiation, you would have a virtually unlimited amount of power, and since MJOLNIR gives off massive amounts of Chernkov Radiation, well...

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  • 05.10.2011 9:28 PM PDT

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The N2 suit has regenerating capabilites; but how fast does it do it? If the N2 suit didn't regenerate fast enough, the Spartan could overtake it. Someone tell me exactly how fast the N2 suit regenerates with an energy source.

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Posted by: Makko Mace
The Nano suit is NOT anywhere near as bullet resistant, and it sure as hell cannot run 300kph.

It only goes extreemly fast in the multiplayer version while the Mjolnir goes slower both for gameplay purposes.

Mjolnir also has a motion tracker, which can see through walls and floors without effort.

What about physical strength? I think its about equal, for example you can flip a car in cryis 2 with a kick and throw a human like 30ft, which seems comparable with Mjolnir.

I'd say its kind of a tie, I think Mjolnir is less refined but more sturdy and bullet proof, while the Nano suit is more about stealth and subtlety.

Strength: A MJOLNIR suit uses PZ and specalized joints which allow the user to lift just over 2.5 metric tonnes. The tank flipping is just for in game purposes.
The Nanosuit uses Crabon Fiber Nanotube based muscles and PZ layers, combined with its abilities to automatically augment the users body and has no stated strength limitations, though we know it can kick a two tonne taxi a good twenty to thitry feet in Crysis 2 and all your abilities are downgraded in Crysis 2 due to the injuries sustained at the beginning of the game.

Protection: In cannon, Mk.VI can sustain a full clip or so (no exact number) of 7.62mm ammunition for shield failure, and a another twenty something round to pierce the outer layer of Titanium-A.
The N2 uses sheer-thickening liquid, advanced PZ layers and and self-repairing Carbon Fiber Nanotubes (the strongest substance known to man) and advanced Coltan-Titanium and Carbon Fiber reinforced Platinum to provided excellent all a round protection against biological, chemical, radiological, thermal and kinetic threats and others, however, there is no preset terms on how much damage it can take, though we do know it took two shots in rapid succession and at close range from a coilgun of similar power to the M99 Stanchion or the Warthog's coilgun. It is also self-repairing and can keep its user alive should they be mortally wounded and even healing them back to full health.

Speed: The MJOLNIR suit allows a Spartan II to react at a speed of 0.04 milliseconds (ms) and run at speeds reaching 70 kn/h
The N2 can reach speeds of 70 km/h and hold that speed almost indefinitely, and can augment the users body to allow them to move at 300 km/h for short periods of time (5-7 seconds). It also enhances their reaction times to 0.04 milliseconds.

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Posted by: PISTOLSQUIRREL
The N2 suit has regenerating capabilites; but how fast does it do it? If the N2 suit didn't regenerate fast enough, the Spartan could overtake it. Someone tell me exactly how fast the N2 suit regenerates with an energy source.

Do you mean regenerating defensive layers, user tissue or energy?

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Posted by: PISTOLSQUIRREL
It would be a close battle. But I wouldn't bet on a SPARTAN vs. a person with a Nanosuit.

In my comparison, the SPARTAN-II's training and augmentations were the only thing that could allow them to match an N2 user. It was till close though(cause Spartan's are beasts)

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Posted by: Nocbl2
As the first reply said, in a one on one it would be just like facing an active camo Elite.

However, the ability to mass produce and mass use nanosuits is a big benefit. The only thing close is if the UNSC could find a way around that and have all the S IIIs use MJOLNIR 6.

You can mass produce a basic Nanosuit, yes, but the super powerful ones I speak of, specifically N2, cost billions of dollars a piece.
I believe the N1 costs around 950 million dollars US, for one suit and the N2 cost some 50 billion dollars to develop. I can only tell you the development cost of the N2, cause it was never sold to the US military.

  • 05.10.2011 9:53 PM PDT

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The nanosuit CANNOT run at 300 kmh... where in god's name do you get that idea? (Power struggle on Mesa?) They tweaked speed for multiplayer bud. In campaign its the same as cryis 2 i which you sprint 1.8 times normal, so about a bit more than a normal person, similar to a spartan...

The Nanosuit 2 also fails after taking 5-6 Scar bullets (Up to 10 with armor mode and some lag) which are "Utilizing advanced rifle cartridges that are smaller than the previous 5.56mm"

The Halo AR bullets are 7.62x51mm Full Metal Jacket and the MK.6 seen in halo three can take 16 of these before the user is killed. If you know anything, anything at all about firearms the MK.6 is a whole order of magnatude more bullet resistant.It is also stated in Ghosts of Onyx that the rebels specifically brought .30 cal machine guns with AP ammunition to combat Spartans.

Also, whoever said that the Nanosuit repeled a tank round is incorrect, it is a .50 cal bullet fired from an APC. Here is the video for clarification:2:00 mark.

In conclusion, It seems evident that the Nanosuit is inferior in terms of ballistic resistance then the Mjolnir MK.6

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Halo 3 AR

Crysis SCAR stats

Scar Caliber Information

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Posted by: Makko Mace
The nanosuit CANNOT run at 300 kmh... where in god's name do you get that idea? (Power struggle on Mesa?) They tweaked speed for multiplayer bud. In campaign its the same as cryis 2 i which you sprint 1.8 times normal, so about a bit more than a normal person, similar to a spartan...

The Nanosuit 2 also fails after taking 5-6 Scar bullets (Up to 10 with armor mode and some lag) which are "Utilizing advanced rifle cartridges that are smaller than the previous 5.56mm"

The Halo AR bullets are 7.62x51mm Full Metal Jacket and the MK.6 seen in halo three can take 16 of these before the user is killed. If you know anything, anything at all about firearms the MK.6 is a whole order of magnatude more bullet resistant.It is also stated in Ghosts of Onyx that the rebels specifically brought .30 cal machine guns with AP ammunition to combat Spartans.

Also, whoever said that the Nanosuit repeled a tank round is incorrect, it is a .50 cal bullet fired from an APC. Here is the video for clarification:2:00 mark.

In conclusion, It seems evident that the Nanosuit is inferior in terms of ballistic resistance then the Mjolnir MK.6

Works Cited:

Halo 3 AR

Crysis SCAR stats

Scar Caliber Information

You have clearly only played Crysis 2 or the beta or something.
You don't know anything about Crysis until you have played the first game. I am no longer listening to you.
Also, in terms of canon, their is no ballistic resistance for the N2. It is never stated, anywhere. Ever.
Unfortunately for the likes of me, I have to make assumptions in describing the N2's abilities, as there is no canon source for its abilities alike MJOLNIR, so you will simply have to take my statement with a grain of salt.
However, since the N2 is made of Carbon fiber nano-tubes, i am convinced it is superior to the MJOLNIR armour. Nanotubes can withstand over 10,000 degrees centigrade and hundreds of thousand of newtons of force,so I honestly don't think Halo has much of a chance.

  • 05.10.2011 10:12 PM PDT

I did say the Crysis 2 Nanosuit. I also recall that when I played Crysis 2 bullets were perfectly capable of killing me, carbon-fiber nanotubes not withstanding.

Also, the third layer of the Mjolnir system is a Titanium nanocomposite bodysuit.

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I did say the Crysis 2 Nanosuit. I also recall that when I played Crysis 2 bullets were perfectly capable of killing me, carbon-fiber nanotubes not withstanding.

Also, the third layer of the Mjolnir system is a Titanium nanocomposite bodysuit.


What say you to that, Atheist?

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I have to say N2 (Nano-suit 2) over MJOLNIR. If you compare the two, you'll see even a Nano-suit 1 would defeat a Spartan II (though it would be an uber-close fight).

Armour: The MJOLNIR armour is made of titanium-A, a hyper-dense, yet light weight alloy designed to resist 2000 degree celsius and massive amounts of force (aprox. 1500 newtons of force) as well as shields comprised of a plasma window, with a wall of lasers underneath, then electron aligned carbon fiber nanotubes
N2 is comprised of three layers. One is a skin tight suit of carbon fiber nano tubes (the strongest element known to man and the primary strength of Halos energy shields)and bullet resistant, shock absorbant gel that also controls the users body temprature. After this comes a layer of Coltan-Titabnium, a modified titanium alloy thats stronger, yet lighter than standred titanium. Coltan titanium is also infused with nano-machines which repair it and and is abosbant of radiation, thus protecting the user from all but the heaviest of radiological attacks.
The exterior of the suit is comprised of self repairing, semi-organic Carbon fiber nanotubes, reinforced with Coltan-titanium and carbo-platinum (A Carbon-fiber nano-tube reinforced, nano machine enhanced, self repairing platinum alloy) The suit is enhanced by Armour mode, which re-directs energy to the suits outer armor, tightening the nano-tubes and providing aditional bullet deflection and protection, as well as increasing energy to life-support and suit-repair functions. The suit is also more resistant to super-heated plasma weapons, MJOLNIR is. While Titanium-A and energy sheilds are weak to the 3000 degrees celsuis tempratures of plasma weapons, carbon fiber nano tubes in real life are resistant to nearly 4500 degrees, far more than the plasma based weapons can produce.
Armor winner: Nano-suit 2

Speed: Unfortunatly unbalance for MJOLNIR, as the Nano-suits has an entire suit mode devoted to speed.
While the fastest speed acheived on a regular basis by a Spartan equiped with MJOLNIR is 75 KM/H by Kelly-087 and the fastest speed ever acheived was 105 Km/H by John-117 during the MJOLNIR-MK.V test.
The N2 on the other hand, has a standered sprint speed of 75 KM/H and a top speed (in small 3-5 second bursts) of close 300 KM/H, easily beating MJOLNIR.
In terms of rection time the Spartans are still outmatched. While MCPO Mendez reports that Spartans in MJOLNIR can react at
0.20 millisecinds, the N2 has a twitch reflex/reaction time of 0.08 milliseconds, much faster than the MJLONIR armor.
Winner: Nano-Suit

Strenth: Ah, finally, a real battle!
MJLONIR goes first. Put simply, Spartans are beats. Cyberneticly modefied beasts to be exact. Capable of lifting three times there own body weight with out MJLONIR equiped (aprox. 1000 pounds or 450 KG), this load in MJLONIR is increased by a factor of five. Five thousand pounds. almost two and a half short tons.
Unfoutunatly for longtime Halo fans like myself, N2 is back and better than ever.
While no exact strenth is stated in game or on the Crysis website or the Crysis wikia, the N2 is capable of kicking a 2 ton taxi cab almost 10 feet into the air and twenty feet forward, with enough force to smash an 9 inch thick concrete wall.
Winner:N2

Powerplant: A complicated matter, as the Nano-suit has no powerplant, yet technically has one anyways.
The Mjolnir armor uses an advanced Fusion power-plant, cabable of powering a Scorpion tank runing at full capacity for almost ten years straight, yet small enough to fit in the palm of a Spartan (aprox. six by six inchs in size), the only known atachment to activly cause the plant to near overload when used too long is armour lock, which can only be used for fifteen seconds before fusion power plant overload.
The plant can also power the suit for close to fifteen years of continiuse use.
The N2 activly collects energy on the other hand, and is pretty good at it too. cabable of collecting energy from thermal (heat in the air, sunlight, the operators body heat), radiological (the small amount of radiation that always surrounds us, radiation souces like powerplans and items containing akaline metals) carbon (rtting bodys and other decomposing organisms, the users dying skin tissues and hair and feces are also broken down into carbon and converted ito energy) and kinetic (the users movement), as well as the bio-electricty of the user and other living beings around him/her. However, the suit energy is quickly drained by continuse strenous activity though in canon it has less energy drain than that seen in games). The MJLONIR fusion plant however is continuse energy all the time
Winner: MJLONIR, though be warned: as the suit consumes radiation, if the spartan gets too close to the user, the suit will consume the energy given off by the spartan's fusion plant, allowing the N2 user to have unlimited energy

Visor: MJOLNIR has a highly advanced HMD (Head Mounted Display) , as well as thermal, night vision and five times optical zoom and a hardened uplink capable of intercepting nearly any radio bbased signal, allowing for unprecedented communications.
The MJOLNIR armor system can also protect the user from breathing in objects as small as 900 nanometers and uses selcetive hearing "a pin drop in a sandstorm"
The N2 on the otherhand, uses "Nano-vision" a thermal-night vision hybrid that allows for 3D imagry, something no other night-vision unit, even that of MJOLNIR is capable of.
N2 also supports a more advanced HMD and an automatic read out of the suit and users status, as well as a smaller and stronger visor (MJOLNIR is comprised of super-hartdend acrylic glass, while the N2 uses see-through Carbon fiber Nano-tubes).
The N2 also has 60 times zoom and the ability to augument the users eyes using naomachines, allowing them to see in the dark and double the users visual perception. The N2 can also protect against viruses, bacteria and gases as small as 500 nano-meters (which are then broken down into carbon and used to power the suit), as well as allow the user to hear a whispered conversation from almost five hundred feet away and is cabable of intercepting almost 6000 lines of communictaion, far more than MJOLNIR.
Winner:N2

AI: Cortana vs SECOND. Oh, this is gonna be good!
Cortana strikes first, with sentience. far more advanced (according to Halo:Reach, ten times so) then her nearest Smart-AI competitor, Cortana is constantly busy and is a hacker only matched by Forerunner AI, SECOND and EDI from Mass Effect 2. Funny, sexy and smart, Cortana is always usefull to have around (sorry, i couldn't much info on her tech).
SECOND is a non-sentient AI implanted in an N2 users head when they first aquire the suit. This AI latter become sentient due to its absorbtion of the DNA of former operative Prophet. SECOND is cabable of running a 1.5 BIPS (twenty time faster than the largest and most powerful super-computer today). Being inplanted in the users head, SECOND can also control hormone levels in the users head, make an N2 operator incabable of feeling fear, pain or failure, as well as operate as a suplimentry nervous system incase the user's is damaged, making the user invulnerable parylisis and even direct barin tramua.
Winner: unknown, insefficient data on the part of Cortana

Overall winner: Nanosuit 2


Nanosuit 2 sounds a lot like a massive Gary Stu in armour form.

Also, gameplay wise, you get maybe THREE SECONDS of life once someone starts shooting you with even a standard issue assault rifle. MJOLNIR gives far longer... to the point of entire clips of small arms fire being just fatal, and it also assumes the accuracy of the weilder of said weapons is 100%.

One of the Crysis 2 trailers shows Alcatraz surviving a tank round to the shoulder... but it doesn't explode. I'm sure MJOLNIR could do the same. And John DOES punch a missile, which then EXPLODES right next to him. He nearly dies as a result, but the armour keeps him alive.

And 300km/h? That's way too fast for a human to move... almost to the point of physical impossibility. your legs would almost rip off the rest of your body... and you'd certainly lose a tendon.


I highly agree it is un-human, but the nano-suit has incredible healing. Sure John swatted a rocket, but he didn't take a full blast. The tank was probably using a armor pieceing round, similar to today's tanks. The nano-suit user can survive with fractured vital body parts, and not to mention the user can feel no pain, no emotion. He could walk it off with the nano-suit supporting him, and give the suit a few seconds/minutes it can heal mortal wounds and broken bones. After-all, in the trailer Hargreve said "This isn't a war normal humans can fight" So the nano-suit user may be consider something else. And to top it off, he says this is the future of warfare, and im sure the average soldier could be equipped with a suit like this. The lack of bullet resistance is easily out-classed but the other elements of the suit.

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