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Subject: Comparison: Halo's Mjolnir Mk.6 vs. Crysis 2's Nanosuit Mk.2

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I highly agree it is un-human, but the nano-suit has incredible healing. Sure John swatted a rocket, but he didn't take a full blast. The tank was probably using a armor pieceing round, similar to today's tanks. The nano-suit user can survive with fractured vital body parts, and not to mention the user can feel no pain, no emotion. He could walk it off with the nano-suit supporting him, and give the suit a few seconds/minutes it can heal mortal wounds and broken bones. After-all, in the trailer Hargreve said "This isn't a war normal humans can fight" So the nano-suit user may be consider something else. And to top it off, he says this is the future of warfare, and im sure the average soldier could be equipped with a suit like this. The lack of bullet resistance is easily out-classed but the other elements of the suit.


Read my post please.

Also, we are talking about the Nanosuit 2 Featured in Crysis 2.
Which certainly cannot run 300kmh... maybe like 35 tops.

  • 05.11.2011 6:08 PM PDT
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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Posted by: Makko Mace

I highly agree it is un-human, but the nano-suit has incredible healing. Sure John swatted a rocket, but he didn't take a full blast. The tank was probably using a armor pieceing round, similar to today's tanks. The nano-suit user can survive with fractured vital body parts, and not to mention the user can feel no pain, no emotion. He could walk it off with the nano-suit supporting him, and give the suit a few seconds/minutes it can heal mortal wounds and broken bones. After-all, in the trailer Hargreve said "This isn't a war normal humans can fight" So the nano-suit user may be consider something else. And to top it off, he says this is the future of warfare, and im sure the average soldier could be equipped with a suit like this. The lack of bullet resistance is easily out-classed but the other elements of the suit.


Read my post please.

Also, we are talking about the Nanosuit 2 Featured in Crysis 2.
Which certainly cannot run 300kmh... maybe like 35 tops.

It tops out at 45 km/h for gameplay purposes. The cannon speed varys, in both duration and speed.

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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

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I have to say N2 (Nano-suit 2) over MJOLNIR. If you compare the two, you'll see even a Nano-suit 1 would defeat a Spartan II (though it would be an uber-close fight).

Armour: The MJOLNIR armour is made of titanium-A, a hyper-dense, yet light weight alloy designed to resist 2000 degree celsius and massive amounts of force (aprox. 1500 newtons of force) as well as shields comprised of a plasma window, with a wall of lasers underneath, then electron aligned carbon fiber nanotubes
N2 is comprised of three layers. One is a skin tight suit of carbon fiber nano tubes (the strongest element known to man and the primary strength of Halos energy shields)and bullet resistant, shock absorbant gel that also controls the users body temprature. After this comes a layer of Coltan-Titabnium, a modified titanium alloy thats stronger, yet lighter than standred titanium. Coltan titanium is also infused with nano-machines which repair it and and is abosbant of radiation, thus protecting the user from all but the heaviest of radiological attacks.
The exterior of the suit is comprised of self repairing, semi-organic Carbon fiber nanotubes, reinforced with Coltan-titanium and carbo-platinum (A Carbon-fiber nano-tube reinforced, nano machine enhanced, self repairing platinum alloy) The suit is enhanced by Armour mode, which re-directs energy to the suits outer armor, tightening the nano-tubes and providing aditional bullet deflection and protection, as well as increasing energy to life-support and suit-repair functions. The suit is also more resistant to super-heated plasma weapons, MJOLNIR is. While Titanium-A and energy sheilds are weak to the 3000 degrees celsuis tempratures of plasma weapons, carbon fiber nano tubes in real life are resistant to nearly 4500 degrees, far more than the plasma based weapons can produce.
Armor winner: Nano-suit 2

Speed: Unfortunatly unbalance for MJOLNIR, as the Nano-suits has an entire suit mode devoted to speed.
While the fastest speed acheived on a regular basis by a Spartan equiped with MJOLNIR is 75 KM/H by Kelly-087 and the fastest speed ever acheived was 105 Km/H by John-117 during the MJOLNIR-MK.V test.
The N2 on the other hand, has a standered sprint speed of 75 KM/H and a top speed (in small 3-5 second bursts) of close 300 KM/H, easily beating MJOLNIR.
In terms of rection time the Spartans are still outmatched. While MCPO Mendez reports that Spartans in MJOLNIR can react at
0.20 millisecinds, the N2 has a twitch reflex/reaction time of 0.08 milliseconds, much faster than the MJLONIR armor.
Winner: Nano-Suit

Strenth: Ah, finally, a real battle!
MJLONIR goes first. Put simply, Spartans are beats. Cyberneticly modefied beasts to be exact. Capable of lifting three times there own body weight with out MJLONIR equiped (aprox. 1000 pounds or 450 KG), this load in MJLONIR is increased by a factor of five. Five thousand pounds. almost two and a half short tons.
Unfoutunatly for longtime Halo fans like myself, N2 is back and better than ever.
While no exact strenth is stated in game or on the Crysis website or the Crysis wikia, the N2 is capable of kicking a 2 ton taxi cab almost 10 feet into the air and twenty feet forward, with enough force to smash an 9 inch thick concrete wall.
Winner:N2

Powerplant: A complicated matter, as the Nano-suit has no powerplant, yet technically has one anyways.
The Mjolnir armor uses an advanced Fusion power-plant, cabable of powering a Scorpion tank runing at full capacity for almost ten years straight, yet small enough to fit in the palm of a Spartan (aprox. six by six inchs in size), the only known atachment to activly cause the plant to near overload when used too long is armour lock, which can only be used for fifteen seconds before fusion power plant overload.
The plant can also power the suit for close to fifteen years of continiuse use.
The N2 activly collects energy on the other hand, and is pretty good at it too. cabable of collecting energy from thermal (heat in the air, sunlight, the operators body heat), radiological (the small amount of radiation that always surrounds us, radiation souces like powerplans and items containing akaline metals) carbon (rtting bodys and other decomposing organisms, the users dying skin tissues and hair and feces are also broken down into carbon and converted ito energy) and kinetic (the users movement), as well as the bio-electricty of the user and other living beings around him/her. However, the suit energy is quickly drained by continuse strenous activity though in canon it has less energy drain than that seen in games). The MJLONIR fusion plant however is continuse energy all the time
Winner: MJLONIR, though be warned: as the suit consumes radiation, if the spartan gets too close to the user, the suit will consume the energy given off by the spartan's fusion plant, allowing the N2 user to have unlimited energy

Visor: MJOLNIR has a highly advanced HMD (Head Mounted Display) , as well as thermal, night vision and five times optical zoom and a hardened uplink capable of intercepting nearly any radio bbased signal, allowing for unprecedented communications.
The MJOLNIR armor system can also protect the user from breathing in objects as small as 900 nanometers and uses selcetive hearing "a pin drop in a sandstorm"
The N2 on the otherhand, uses "Nano-vision" a thermal-night vision hybrid that allows for 3D imagry, something no other night-vision unit, even that of MJOLNIR is capable of.
N2 also supports a more advanced HMD and an automatic read out of the suit and users status, as well as a smaller and stronger visor (MJOLNIR is comprised of super-hartdend acrylic glass, while the N2 uses see-through Carbon fiber Nano-tubes).
The N2 also has 60 times zoom and the ability to augument the users eyes using naomachines, allowing them to see in the dark and double the users visual perception. The N2 can also protect against viruses, bacteria and gases as small as 500 nano-meters (which are then broken down into carbon and used to power the suit), as well as allow the user to hear a whispered conversation from almost five hundred feet away and is cabable of intercepting almost 6000 lines of communictaion, far more than MJOLNIR.
Winner:N2

AI: Cortana vs SECOND. Oh, this is gonna be good!
Cortana strikes first, with sentience. far more advanced (according to Halo:Reach, ten times so) then her nearest Smart-AI competitor, Cortana is constantly busy and is a hacker only matched by Forerunner AI, SECOND and EDI from Mass Effect 2. Funny, sexy and smart, Cortana is always usefull to have around (sorry, i couldn't much info on her tech).
SECOND is a non-sentient AI implanted in an N2 users head when they first aquire the suit. This AI latter become sentient due to its absorbtion of the DNA of former operative Prophet. SECOND is cabable of running a 1.5 BIPS (twenty time faster than the largest and most powerful super-computer today). Being inplanted in the users head, SECOND can also control hormone levels in the users head, make an N2 operator incabable of feeling fear, pain or failure, as well as operate as a suplimentry nervous system incase the user's is damaged, making the user invulnerable parylisis and even direct barin tramua.
Winner: unknown, insefficient data on the part of Cortana

Overall winner: Nanosuit 2


Nanosuit 2 sounds a lot like a massive Gary Stu in armour form.

Also, gameplay wise, you get maybe THREE SECONDS of life once someone starts shooting you with even a standard issue assault rifle. MJOLNIR gives far longer... to the point of entire clips of small arms fire being just fatal, and it also assumes the accuracy of the weilder of said weapons is 100%.

One of the Crysis 2 trailers shows Alcatraz surviving a tank round to the shoulder... but it doesn't explode. I'm sure MJOLNIR could do the same. And John DOES punch a missile, which then EXPLODES right next to him. He nearly dies as a result, but the armour keeps him alive.

And 300km/h? That's way too fast for a human to move... almost to the point of physical impossibility. your legs would almost rip off the rest of your body... and you'd certainly lose a tendon.


I highly agree it is un-human, but the nano-suit has incredible healing. Sure John swatted a rocket, but he didn't take a full blast. The tank was probably using a armor pieceing round, similar to today's tanks. The nano-suit user can survive with fractured vital body parts, and not to mention the user can feel no pain, no emotion. He could walk it off with the nano-suit supporting him, and give the suit a few seconds/minutes it can heal mortal wounds and broken bones. After-all, in the trailer Hargreve said "This isn't a war normal humans can fight" So the nano-suit user may be consider something else. And to top it off, he says this is the future of warfare, and im sure the average soldier could be equipped with a suit like this. The lack of bullet resistance is easily out-classed but the other elements of the suit.

You realize that Carbon Fiber Nano tubes far out class Titanium right? Even Titanium A could not withstand superheated plasma.

  • 05.11.2011 6:10 PM PDT

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Yeah.. sure even if that's true unless you have an enormous carbon fiber nano tube heat sink attached to you suit... your still going to fry inside it.

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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship

Done to death.
MJOLNIR. But only barely.

Someone should compare the Nanosuit to a War Sphinx.

  • 05.11.2011 6:16 PM PDT

^ I don't think they're similar. Nanosuit is single-person protection system, the War Sphinx is analogeous to an armoured fighting vehicle. You wouldn't compare a kevlar vest to an M1 Abrams.

  • 05.11.2011 6:19 PM PDT

I'm not sure what you're looking for.

"Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing" -- Proverbs 12:18


Posted by: Makko Mace
Yeah.. sure even if that's true unless you have an enormous carbon fiber nano tube heat sink attached to you suit... your still going to fry inside it.


The Nano-suit gets energy from Miss. Sources, perhaps a large part of the heat is transferred to energy, and the rest is spread over the whole mass of the suit it self. Pretty much firing a plasma weapon in this case at the soldier makes him stronger.

  • 05.11.2011 6:20 PM PDT

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The Nano-suit gets energy from Miss. Sources, perhaps a large part of the heat is transferred to energy, and the rest is spread over the whole mass of the suit it self. Pretty much firing a plasma weapon in this case at the soldier makes him stronger.


Please cite when that ever occured, or was stated.

Also, don't the Ceph use energy weapons... that don't give you energy.

Besides if something smaller than a .22 can get through in less than 10 shots, that suit is no where near as strong as you seem to belive.

Also Remember that gun? The X-43 mike? Yeah that shoots microwaves that boil you alive without giving you energy.

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  • 05.11.2011 6:25 PM PDT

I'm not sure what you're looking for.

"Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing" -- Proverbs 12:18


Posted by: Makko Mace
The Nano-suit gets energy from Miss. Sources, perhaps a large part of the heat is transferred to energy, and the rest is spread over the whole mass of the suit it self. Pretty much firing a plasma weapon in this case at the soldier makes him stronger.


Please cite when that ever occured, or was stated.

Also, don't the Ceph use energy weapons... that don't give you energy.

Besides if something smaller than a .22 can get through in less than 10 shots, that suit is no where near as strong as you seem to belive.



I'm unsure about the Ceph, they have too little information on their part. The Nano-Suit gets energy from different sources including heat. The ability to convert to power could have have been removed for game play purposes. If the soldier can shake off a 50. cal round I'm sure he can survive .22 rounds. The survivability was reduced since what fun is a FPS with no challenge? I'm just waiting for a Crysis Novel, since the universe can be expanded on.

  • 05.11.2011 6:31 PM PDT

The Nanosuit gets the majority of it's power from a hydrogen fuel cell, supplemented by a kinetic energy recapture system.

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  • 05.11.2011 6:31 PM PDT

This is profile number 4

actually been a member of Bungie.net since March-April 2004

... I have a tendency to lose my passwords...

You people throw around the term carbon nanotubes like its some mystical alien element.

It's not. It is a particular arrangement of carbon atoms that gives it amazing tensile strength.
It isn't a super material.

Titanium A is a made up alloy of Titanium. It may as well be mythril. It's hard to compare a made up alloy with some that is known.



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  • 05.11.2011 6:35 PM PDT

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And yet it fails to small arms fire in seconds...

  • 05.11.2011 6:36 PM PDT

This is profile number 4

actually been a member of Bungie.net since March-April 2004

... I have a tendency to lose my passwords...

I'm not arguing either way. Just trying to correct the carbon nanotube discussion.

Just finished a Materials course, it was irritating me.

  • 05.11.2011 6:38 PM PDT

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Thank you, they seem to think its pretty much magical.

  • 05.11.2011 6:41 PM PDT

I've been looking around for the specs of the Nanosuit, which I found before but can't anymore. Apparently there is a Crysis novel, here it is:

Crysis Legion

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You need to post all this in a non-Halo-based forum. Clearly you are going to get some bias here. MJOLNIR wins BTW.

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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Posted by: Makko Mace
Yeah.. sure even if that's true unless you have an enormous carbon fiber nano tube heat sink attached to you suit... your still going to fry inside it.

No, nanotubeing directs heat around the user, instead of letting them fry.

  • 05.11.2011 7:08 PM PDT

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I don't think you understand how heat works...

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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Posted by: Makko Mace
I don't think you understand how heat works...

I`m pretty sure I do.
Carbon tubing is a good conductor of heat, as is Ionic Electroactive Polymer (IEPs). These channel the heat down through the suit into the ground, while the suits middle layer, comprised of Coltan-titanium, platinum, tungsten and a heat resistant gel layer protect the user.

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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Posted by: Omanisat
I've been looking around for the specs of the Nanosuit, which I found before but can't anymore. Apparently there is a Crysis novel, here it is:

Crysis Legion

I heard it is actually pretty good. Its not selling in Canada yet though.

  • 05.11.2011 7:29 PM PDT

I'm sure you can find it online. I just bought it as an .epub.

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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Posted by: Terminus
You people throw around the term carbon nanotubes like its some mystical alien element.

It's not. It is a particular arrangement of carbon atoms that gives it amazing tensile strength.
It isn't a super material.

Titanium A is a made up alloy of Titanium. It may as well be mythril. It's hard to compare a made up alloy with some that is known.


I don`t think its magical, however, you must remember this is sci-fi. The Nanotubing in Crysis is different than the real world equivalent. For example, in reality we have yet to create elastic carbon fiber nanotube muscles, while in the game its rather common from the looks of it.

The biggest problem is that as there is no cannon for Crysis`s technology yet (there is a book but its not out yet), I have to make assumptions, and as such, you must take my statements with a grain of salt.

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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Posted by: Omanisat
I'm sure you can find it online. I just bought it as an .epub.

I`m on the Crysis wikia right now.
Heres an excerpt form the website on the N2s capabilities:
``Coltan-titanium exoskeleton; all insertion points carboplatinum-reinforced
Gold-cobalt oxide lattice (increases fuel-cell capacity by 20%)
Nanocircuitry; force-grown using proprietary peptide-matrix viral templates
Ionic Electroactive Polymer (IEP) Liquid Armor; fast-twitch reflex copolymer with coloidal doped ceramics and copper nanolattice in ethylene-glycol buckyball matrix
Dual-intake UV/Hepafilters (traps particulates down to 500nm, kills biologicals, neutralizes wide range of chemical agents without compromising tidal flow)
Monocular stereopsis and range finding (unsurpassed depth perception even through single lens)
Full-spectrum acuity from 1m to 103m (including terahertz radiation); output rendered as false-color visible light; optional acoustic and tactile modes; 60x optical zoom at visible wavelengths (100x digital interpolation)
Six-thousand-channel dynamic telemetry integration (ensures complete and transparent access to all ambient data streams without the need to painstakingly sort signal from noise)
Continuous real-time derivation and analysis of all proximate tactical objectives consistent with stored parameters``

EDIT: I just realized you meant the book. Sorry, i derped. Yeah I bet I could but I don`t know if they ship to Canada. I`ll try Amazon, i don`t expect to find many copies on Ebay right now.

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  • 05.11.2011 7:35 PM PDT

There used to be an article on mycrysis.com that had this info, but it was more reader-friendly then the wiki page. They also have a whole bunch of articles on the various weapons in Crysis.

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