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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
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To be fair, energy shielding technology is actually being researched today. They call it "cold" plasma, which could deflect metal objects or other weapons. Not advanced enough to put on human sized objects, but for tanks and other laarge vehicles, yeah.

So shielding isn't too unrealistic. You have to remember a lot of the concepts in sci-fi that are overused usually become reality. Like Star Trek's communicator, thats called a cell phone.

Thats why I like sci-fi so much; gives good insight into what the future holds.

In fact, Star Trek is very scientifically accurate (for a sci-fi with lazer beams). They have great scientific advisors to ensure the validity of the technology in the universe.

Star Wars is more of a science-fantasy. Its good when you don't want to think too much and want to have a lot of fun.

And also, its not very accurate to say that Wars and Trek are filled with idealistic or philosophical BS where Halo isn't. Take a look at the story as a whole, its pretty cool what you'll find.

Though Trek is in another field all together on idealism.

Well said, however, Halo shields are comprised of electronically aligned Carbon Fiber Nanotubes, a laser "wall" and a thin plasma shield or "cold plasma window" put together.
The problem with plasma windows is that as they take damage they rapidly heat and would eventually cook everything inside them, so the plasma in Halo shielding is only for defense against particles like radiation and UV rays.

  • 05.11.2011 4:51 PM PDT

I certainly like the the plausibility of the Halo technology and universe.

Like bending time rather than direct time travel etc. The augmentations and suits are just a metter of time.

  • 05.11.2011 9:04 PM PDT

Halo has a surprisingly realistic story which I definitely like.

  • 05.11.2011 9:15 PM PDT
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Halo should get credit for atleast trying, and succeeding, to be very realistic. I like the detailed stuff around the Spartan projects, like all the controversy and failures. Not just pure heroism and victory.

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Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
what about Mass Effect? that the Reapers are one of the poorest enemies ever in a science fiction universe? they are giant mechanical lobsters that talk the talk and walk the walk, but really aren't that frightening or impressive?
no that all their tecnology is based on a magical element


I can't help but notice that you hold some kind of grudge towards Mass Effect. I hate to sound like a fanboy, like you, but how is Element Zero more "magical" than i.e. the alloy the Forerunners use?
i was talking about the normal races tell me one ancient super race that is realistic and i actualy like ME like a game but not as a Sci-fi that much

I like the story and universe of ME and the fact that people like you and SC Matt Klassen always underestimate the power of the technology featured in the game.
You people have no imagination.

Weak to kilotons = weak to everything in Halo and Stargate. Also Kinetic Barriers have no defense against plasma. Which is something that is widely used in Stargate, and the Covenant spam the stuff in Halo.

Ground battles are a different story though. That's where ME begins to get scary.

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  • 05.11.2011 11:19 PM PDT
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Halo should get credit for atleast trying, and succeeding, to be very realistic. I like the detailed stuff around the Spartan projects, like all the controversy and failures. Not just pure heroism and victory.

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Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
what about Mass Effect? that the Reapers are one of the poorest enemies ever in a science fiction universe? they are giant mechanical lobsters that talk the talk and walk the walk, but really aren't that frightening or impressive?[/quote]no that all their tecnology is based on a magical element


I can't help but notice that you hold some kind of grudge towards Mass Effect. I hate to sound like a fanboy, like you, but how is Element Zero more "magical" than i.e. the alloy the Forerunners use?
i was talking about the normal races tell me one ancient super race that is realistic and i actualy like ME like a game but not as a Sci-fi that much

I like the story and universe of ME and the fact that people like you and SC Matt Klassen always underestimate the power of the technology featured in the game.
You people have no imagination.

Weak to kilotons = weak to everything in Halo and Stargate. Also Kinetic Barriers have no defense against plasma. Which is something that is widely used in Stargate, and the Covenant spam the stuff in Halo.

Ground battles are a different story though. That's where ME begins to get scary.

Sorry I have nothing against you guys personally but you're constant comparing of ME to Halo to Stargate is really ruining all three series for me and I was just getting into Stargate.

Of course, I have always wondered why Mass Effect weapons seem so underpowered. Though the UNSC MAC gun takes two minutes or so to charge and the Alliances coilgun takes about five seconds. If they overcharged the coilgun???
As for the shields, I can understand why the developers had to make sacrifices there for the sake of story. Still sucks though.

[Edited on 05.11.2011 11:34 PM PDT]

  • 05.11.2011 11:31 PM PDT
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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Posted by: OniLink147
Halo has a surprisingly realistic story which I definitely like.

I know. Its nice really. Though I think we will be more advanced than the Halo universe by 2552.

  • 05.11.2011 11:35 PM PDT

There's a few areas I don't find realistic. The most obvious one for me would be that the UNSC weapons and vehicles aren't very powerful even by today's standard.

  • 05.12.2011 2:47 AM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

Slip space is a little farfetched.

  • 05.12.2011 7:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Slip space is a little farfetched.

That and other planets that can support life.

  • 05.12.2011 8:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Slip space is a little farfetched.
actualy slipspace is nothing more than artificial punched/open wormholes

  • 05.12.2011 9:31 AM PDT

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Slip space is a little farfetched.

That and other planets that can support life.
Terraforming?

  • 05.12.2011 9:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
how do room temperature super-conductors make several million tons of warship float in the air with no obvious signs of propulsion?

Magnetic fields cannot pass through superconductors, so the field lines must go around it. That exerts an upwards force on the starship, due to Newtons third law and the fact that the inertia of a planet is far higher than that of a starships.

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Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Slip space is a little farfetched.

That and other planets that can support life.

That is most certainly not farfetched. Empirical evidence is right now leaning heavily in favour of other Earth like planets existing. The findings of NASA's Kepler mission for instance.

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Slip space is a little farfetched.
actualy slipspace is nothing more than artificial punched/open wormholes

Slipspace is another dimension other than 3D.

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SC = Supreme Commander/Supreme Canadian.

De Facto leader of the military of the APE (Allied Planets Empire).

Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship

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Posted by: spurkis


Halo should get credit for atleast trying, and succeeding, to be very realistic. I like the detailed stuff around the Spartan projects, like all the controversy and failures. Not just pure heroism and victory.

Posted by: fsabran

Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
what about Mass Effect? that the Reapers are one of the poorest enemies ever in a science fiction universe? they are giant mechanical lobsters that talk the talk and walk the walk, but really aren't that frightening or impressive?
no that all their tecnology is based on a magical element


I can't help but notice that you hold some kind of grudge towards Mass Effect. I hate to sound like a fanboy, like you, but how is Element Zero more "magical" than i.e. the alloy the Forerunners use?

I love how the designers of ME and Halo actually went and found or created a hypothetical explanation for the stuff that happens in there universes, instead just saying"This is what happens and that is it" like Star Wars or "My way overpowered 800 gigaton bomb goes boom!" like Stargate (no offense to Stargate, it s a pretty interesting universe).

800 gigaton bomb wtf? Where'd you get that?

  • 05.12.2011 12:40 PM PDT

The in-depth universe surrounding the games is what makes it realistic. The fact that there is so much around; civilisation, politics and invention.

Afterall, it is set in the year 2552 - anything could be possible! But its the links to current society that make it realistic.

My personal favourite is the Carver Findings, where Dr. Carver makes a prediction that a rebellion will rise from the outer colonies. For some reason, its plainness just makes it realistic to me.

[Edited on 05.12.2011 1:00 PM PDT]

  • 05.12.2011 12:59 PM PDT

probably due to the outer colonies being more 'isolated' from the rest of human space, thinking 'why should they control our colonies, when they are X light years away?!...' and the rest will happen by itself! would also guess the outer colonises (newest ones) will be less developed than the inner colonises, another reason for the outers to feel 'hard done by', adding more fuel to the fire.

  • 05.12.2011 1:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: firedune
One thing that confuses me a bit is how in the world the POA got airborne with those tiny (in comparison to the rest of the ship) thrusters. Shields are pretty realistic, as we're already developing radar absorbing shields. who's to say a sufficiently advanced race can't create shields that can absorb(or rather deflect) bullets?

that shouldn't be considered canon. a halcyon cruiser isn't even rated for atmosphere.

  • 05.12.2011 1:34 PM PDT

^Forget flying or taking off, the simple strain of gravity on a vehical built in and designed to operate in zero-gee would break the PoA's back.

The inner colony/outer colony conflicts always seemed like an interplanetary version of the American revolution, with the main difference being instead of meeting the UNSC head on line the Americans did the British, they resorted to a terrorist campaign.

[Edited on 05.12.2011 1:43 PM PDT]

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Posted by: OniLink147
Halo has a surprisingly realistic story which I definitely like.


Wait, What?


(Looks at the Flood and Halo's)

O.o?

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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: That Atheist
Posted by: spurkis


Halo should get credit for atleast trying, and succeeding, to be very realistic. I like the detailed stuff around the Spartan projects, like all the controversy and failures. Not just pure heroism and victory.

Posted by: fsabran

Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
what about Mass Effect? that the Reapers are one of the poorest enemies ever in a science fiction universe? they are giant mechanical lobsters that talk the talk and walk the walk, but really aren't that frightening or impressive?
no that all their tecnology is based on a magical element


I can't help but notice that you hold some kind of grudge towards Mass Effect. I hate to sound like a fanboy, like you, but how is Element Zero more "magical" than i.e. the alloy the Forerunners use?

I love how the designers of ME and Halo actually went and found or created a hypothetical explanation for the stuff that happens in there universes, instead just saying"This is what happens and that is it" like Star Wars or "My way overpowered 800 gigaton bomb goes boom!" like Stargate (no offense to Stargate, it s a pretty interesting universe).

800 gigaton bomb wtf? Where'd you get that?

Its an exageration for dramatic purposes.

  • 05.13.2011 2:06 AM PDT

Am I supposed to write something funny here?

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Posted by: firedune
One thing that confuses me a bit is how in the world the POA got airborne with those tiny (in comparison to the rest of the ship) thrusters. Shields are pretty realistic, as we're already developing radar absorbing shields. who's to say a sufficiently advanced race can't create shields that can absorb(or rather deflect) bullets?

that shouldn't be considered canon. a halcyon cruiser isn't even rated for atmosphere.
Is it somewhere stated what "rated for atmosphere" means? It could be ability to move around and float without help (PoA had those rockets, maybe it also has not-so-powerful floating devices to help in crash-landings and stuff shown in Reach).

Posted by: Omanisat
^Forget flying or taking off, the simple strain of gravity on a vehical built in and designed to operate in zero-gee would break the PoA's back.

PoA didn't look so bad on 04...

  • 05.13.2011 3:56 AM PDT

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Weak to kilotons = weak to everything in Halo and Stargate. Also Kinetic Barriers have no defense against plasma. Which is something that is widely used in Stargate, and the Covenant spam the stuff in Halo.

Ground battles are a different story though. That's where ME begins to get scary.


Let's not start another debate, but I'd just like to put in that kinetic barriers do protect against plasma. Examples are the Geth Plasma Shotgun and the Incinerate power.

  • 05.13.2011 4:51 AM PDT

My future is certain, I will one day fly away. All because I am saved from the penalty of sin. I know he lives.

I like the fact that humans are still using bullets. Even with all the plasma technologie that could or should be avaliable by 2552.

Pumping your enemy full of lead is still they way to go, even 500 years into the future.

  • 05.13.2011 5:12 AM PDT

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