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Subject: Destiny (SGU) in the Halo Universe
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T4R.

Scenario One: Destiny takes part in the Battle of Reach, on the UNSC's side.

Scenario Two: Destiny takes part in the First Battle of Earth, UNSC side.

Scenario Three: Destiny takes part in the Second Battle of Earth, UNSC side.

Scenario Four: Destiny takes part in the Battle of Installation 00. UNSC/Separatist side.

Scenario Five: Destiny finds the Spirit of Fire.

Note: This is post-Gauntlet.

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Totally unrelated to the top, did anyone else think that the season two finale of Stargate Universe borrow heavily from Halo Wars?

  • 05.11.2011 9:47 PM PDT

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Scenario Five: Destiny finds the Spirit of Fire.


That is a hilariously awesome idea. No joke.

  • 05.12.2011 8:09 AM PDT
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We are all going to get banned aren't we?

what is this thread about? because honestly Destiny isn't a big hitter like the other ancient ships.

  • 05.12.2011 8:11 AM PDT
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Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship

Posted by: grey101
what is this thread about? because honestly Destiny isn't a big hitter like the other ancient ships.

Yeah, Destiny vs Forward Unto Dawn or Pillar of Autumn would result in Destiny getting a lot of holes punched through it.

Not to mention Covenant ships. Though adapting to plasma would be easier...

[Edited on 05.12.2011 12:29 PM PDT]

  • 05.12.2011 12:28 PM PDT


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: grey101
what is this thread about? because honestly Destiny isn't a big hitter like the other ancient ships.

Yeah, Destiny vs Forward Unto Dawn or Pillar of Autumn would result in Destiny getting a lot of holes punched through it.

Not to mention Covenant ships. Though adapting to plasma would be easier...


^Really? I don't know much about Destiny, but I always though ancient ships were fairly powerful.

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Coup = Admiral Asskicker, ZPM hive ship

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Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: grey101
what is this thread about? because honestly Destiny isn't a big hitter like the other ancient ships.

Yeah, Destiny vs Forward Unto Dawn or Pillar of Autumn would result in Destiny getting a lot of holes punched through it.

Not to mention Covenant ships. Though adapting to plasma would be easier...


^Really? I don't know much about Destiny, but I always though ancient ships were fairly powerful.

Most Alteran/Lantean ships are omgwtfpwn machines. Destiny was built for exploration only, and is FIVE MILLION YEARS OLD. >.<

It's in good shape for its time, huh?

  • 05.12.2011 12:37 PM PDT

to be honest, Destiny would likely murder a Halcyon cruiser, its shields are really quite strong when the ship has a full tank! also rather sure it could out-turn a Halcyon without much trouble and the main battery is quite powerful, on the last episode of season II it turns a Drone command ship inside out pretty quickly.

however like people have said Destiny is an explorer, not even close to a warship, it can defend itself but its not intended to be the attacker since that wasn't the Ancient way. should probably do a comparison against an actual Ancient warship like the Aurora class cruiser rather than against an explorer.

here is one for you, Wraith Hive-ship against Halcyon class, that would be rather one sided I would say but never know! plus Hives are cool as blam!

  • 05.12.2011 1:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
to be honest, Destiny would likely murder a Halcyon cruiser, its shields are really quite strong when the ship has a full tank! also rather sure it could out-turn a Halcyon without much trouble and the main battery is quite powerful, on the last episode of season II it turns a Drone command ship inside out pretty quickly.

however like people have said Destiny is an explorer, not even close to a warship, it can defend itself but its not intended to be the attacker since that wasn't the Ancient way. should probably do a comparison against an actual Ancient warship like the Aurora class cruiser rather than against an explorer.

here is one for you, Wraith Hive-ship against Halcyon class, that would be rather one sided I would say but never know! plus Hives are cool as blam!

A hive would eat Halcyon class vessels for dessert.

Don't let this get sidetracked though.

[Edited on 05.12.2011 1:15 PM PDT]

  • 05.12.2011 1:15 PM PDT


Posted by: Omanisat

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: grey101
what is this thread about? because honestly Destiny isn't a big hitter like the other ancient ships.

Yeah, Destiny vs Forward Unto Dawn or Pillar of Autumn would result in Destiny getting a lot of holes punched through it.

Not to mention Covenant ships. Though adapting to plasma would be easier...


^Really? I don't know much about Destiny, but I always though ancient ships were fairly powerful.
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Destiny isn't a weapons ship. It's a vessel of science!

  • 05.12.2011 1:20 PM PDT

reckon both sides would be better off capturing the ship and studying its technology, rather than trying to destroy it! not just for war technology but for culture, history and so on, Destiny is ripe with that sort of thing, its travelled through hundreds, maybe thousands of galaxies so I would argue that sort of knowledge is worth saving!

back to the debate, there is a lot of what if involved, has Destiny just been for a drink in the nearest star? is it current state Destiny with millions of years or damage or brand new factory conditions?

  • 05.12.2011 1:21 PM PDT
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Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit

Destiny is tough but not invincible, eventually she'd be overrun by the covenant.
Not to mention the inability to quickly exit and re-enter FTL would be a major tactical weakness.

Yes, I did find it eerily similar to Halo Wars, I think it's the best cliff-hanger ending I could've hoped for.

  • 05.12.2011 3:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
to be honest, Destiny would likely murder a Halcyon cruiser, its shields are really quite strong when the ship has a full tank! also rather sure it could out-turn a Halcyon without much trouble and the main battery is quite powerful, on the last episode of season II it turns a Drone command ship inside out pretty quickly.

however like people have said Destiny is an explorer, not even close to a warship, it can defend itself but its not intended to be the attacker since that wasn't the Ancient way. should probably do a comparison against an actual Ancient warship like the Aurora class cruiser rather than against an explorer.

here is one for you, Wraith Hive-ship against Halcyon class, that would be rather one sided I would say but never know! plus Hives are cool as blam!

A hive would eat Halcyon class vessels for dessert.

Don't let this get sidetracked though.
actualy i think that if they used the MAC range to it's advantage they could win but only with the refits if no theyre screwed

  • 05.12.2011 3:38 PM PDT

indeed, the ending was really good, shame it has been cancelled? wish they would realise not a lot of people watch shows at their original airing these days, I never watched Universe when it was on Sky One, recorded it onto hard disk and watched it when I had time, same goes for Fringe! but they don't take that sort of thing into account when working out how popular something is!

signed that petition, Save Stargate Universe?

  • 05.12.2011 4:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: fsabran

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
to be honest, Destiny would likely murder a Halcyon cruiser, its shields are really quite strong when the ship has a full tank! also rather sure it could out-turn a Halcyon without much trouble and the main battery is quite powerful, on the last episode of season II it turns a Drone command ship inside out pretty quickly.

however like people have said Destiny is an explorer, not even close to a warship, it can defend itself but its not intended to be the attacker since that wasn't the Ancient way. should probably do a comparison against an actual Ancient warship like the Aurora class cruiser rather than against an explorer.

here is one for you, Wraith Hive-ship against Halcyon class, that would be rather one sided I would say but never know! plus Hives are cool as blam!

A hive would eat Halcyon class vessels for dessert.

Don't let this get sidetracked though.
actualy i think that if they used the MAC range to it's advantage they could win but only with the refits if no theyre screwed

Gigaton range plasma cannons vs a hull weak to plasma. That hive also has the ability to drown the Halcyon in fighters, who aren't scared to kamikaze into ships. And the Hive would laugh off the nukes and the first two MAC rounds. The third might cause some damage.

But that isn't the topic.

But that isn't the topic.

  • 05.12.2011 9:10 PM PDT


Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: fsabran

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen
Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
to be honest, Destiny would likely murder a Halcyon cruiser, its shields are really quite strong when the ship has a full tank! also rather sure it could out-turn a Halcyon without much trouble and the main battery is quite powerful, on the last episode of season II it turns a Drone command ship inside out pretty quickly.

however like people have said Destiny is an explorer, not even close to a warship, it can defend itself but its not intended to be the attacker since that wasn't the Ancient way. should probably do a comparison against an actual Ancient warship like the Aurora class cruiser rather than against an explorer.

here is one for you, Wraith Hive-ship against Halcyon class, that would be rather one sided I would say but never know! plus Hives are cool as blam!

A hive would eat Halcyon class vessels for dessert.

Don't let this get sidetracked though.
actualy i think that if they used the MAC range to it's advantage they could win but only with the refits if no theyre screwed

Gigaton range plasma cannons vs a hull weak to plasma. That hive also has the ability to drown the Halcyon in fighters, who aren't scared to kamikaze into ships. And the Hive would laugh off the nukes and the first two MAC rounds. The third might cause some damage.

But that isn't the topic.

But that isn't the topic.


While this is off topic, I feel that I have to reply.

A dozen missiles can overrun a Hive's defenses and a single nuke will cripple it.
Concentrated fire in vunerable areas from what are estimated to be 20mm rail-guns will also cripple a hive.
Longswords are easily able to out-fly darts. Not to mention they blow a hole in an assault carrier in H2, I hate to think how a Hive's hull would stand up to that.

Most UNSC ships could over-power a hive if they keep moving and don't slow to a snail's pace like Caldwell loves doing. :P

The problem occurs when Hives appear with full support, and use whatever tactics they had that brought down the Lanteans. At which point the UNSC may as well pack it's bags and bugger off because they don't stand a chance.


  • 05.12.2011 9:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: fsabran

Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

A hive would eat Halcyon class vessels for dessert.

Don't let this get sidetracked though.
actualy i think that if they used the MAC range to it's advantage they could win but only with the refits if no theyre screwed

Gigaton range plasma cannons vs a hull weak to plasma. That hive also has the ability to drown the Halcyon in fighters, who aren't scared to kamikaze into ships. And the Hive would laugh off the nukes and the first two MAC rounds. The third might cause some damage.

But that isn't the topic.

But that isn't the topic.


While this is off topic, I feel that I have to reply.

A dozen missiles can overrun a Hive's defenses and a single nuke will cripple it.
If you're talking about drones, that's a whole other ball game than UNSC Archer missiles. And megaton nuke =/= 21 gigaton nuke.
Concentrated fire in vunerable areas from what are estimated to be 20mm rail-guns will also cripple a hive.
Hangar bays, secondary explosions, said ship had also been smashed previously by hyperspace drive detonation and 21 gigaton nuke. Also, railgun ammo is tipped with refined weapons grade naquadah.
Longswords are easily able to out-fly darts. Not to mention they blow a hole in an assault carrier in H2, I hate to think how a Hive's hull would stand up to that.
Unless it's in a critical section, the hive would just heal over it while continuing on.

Most UNSC ships could over-power a hive if they keep moving and don't slow to a snail's pace like Caldwell loves doing.
Oh bull. How do they get around the fact that two shots from any of the guns and the UNSC ship is toast? "Kill it with bug bites" works only as long as you don't get hit. And with kamikaze Darts, you're going to get hit.

The problem occurs when Hives appear with full support, and use whatever tactics they had that brought down the Lanteans. At which point the UNSC may as well pack it's bags and bugger off because they don't stand a chance.
The Wraith won the battle with the Lanteans the same way the Flood won the battle with the Forerunners, by drowning them in numbers. But all it would take is one ZPM and the UNSC is dead. Not to mention the easy building of Wraith ships. One human = one hive.

  • 05.13.2011 1:37 AM PDT