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Subject: If they WERE to remake Halo CE...

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... do you think that 343i would mess with the lore?

The reason I bring this up is a thread I saw related to how Humans were NOT Reclaimers (in the sense they are not the same species) when all throughout the games it was implied they were! Then Cryptum comes out and that all changes!

Not that any of this bothers me, but do you think if they were to do a remake would 343i take liberties with the lore, possibly retconning it? Maybe providing The Master Chief with a Mark VI MJOLNIR suit to fit in with his more iconic image?

Introducing plot lines from say Halo - The Flood novel to flesh out their universe?

Do you think 343i would take more liberties with a remake that they essentially own now? Would they shape it to fit THEIR idea of what Halo is?

  • 05.12.2011 4:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

As long as I get my 60 bullet Assault Rifle or atleast an MA5K, I'll be happy.

That or we better see ODST's.

  • 05.12.2011 4:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

As long as 343 doesn't listen to HipiO7 when they remake the Library I'm good.

  • 05.12.2011 4:06 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: Xd00999
As long as 343 doesn't listen to HipiO7 when they remake the Library I'm good.


:)

I'd love to do the version of what I said of the Library on Legendary Co-Op. So many lulz would happen.

But yeah, lets not even talk about it on a Legendary Solo run.

  • 05.12.2011 4:09 PM PDT

I like the magazine sizes where they are at the minute, sixty rounds felt like too much in the original game, too much spraying and not enough short, controlled bursts. also don't bring back the one shot killing Hunter with a pistol, that was stupid as hell and made Hunters useless at everything.

  • 05.12.2011 4:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
I like the magazine sizes where they are at the minute, sixty rounds felt like too much in the original game, too much spraying and not enough short, controlled bursts. also don't bring back the one shot killing Hunter with a pistol, that was stupid as hell and made Hunters useless at everything.
What about Sniper Rifles?

  • 05.12.2011 4:12 PM PDT

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So far 343i has done a pretty good job with making their stuff fit within established canon so I doubt that they will do some massive retcons with the game. That said I hope that they put some of the stuff from The Flood in this hypothetical remake.

  • 05.12.2011 4:14 PM PDT

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What about Armour Abilities? Would you wanna see any of those in a Halo Remake? To fit in with Reach? Or maybe just the pickup Abilities from Halo 3 like the Bubble Shield and such?

  • 05.12.2011 4:14 PM PDT

Name's WIlliam,

For the love of God it's pronounced mister-shag, not misters-hag.

Also, will they introduce the DMR in the game? While it wasn't in the original, it wouldn't be too farfetched as to the timeline.

  • 05.12.2011 4:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: CTN 0452 9
So far 343i has done a pretty good job with making their stuff fit within established canon so I doubt that they will do some massive retcons with the game. That said I hope that they put some of the stuff from The Flood in this hypothetical remake.


Maybe extended cutscenes with some "The Flood" action happening?

  • 05.12.2011 4:16 PM PDT

what about them? hope they don't make it like it is in Reach where Sniper Rifles flip Warthogs, that is just retarded! Reach made the Spartan Laser pointless, since the Sniper Rifle is just as good against vehicles and other such enemies.

would like a Halo Remake to be the start of a new, better compiled Halo Universe, with less bogus technology holes and what not. the games have never got the difficulty balance right, its either far too easy or its artificially hard, like Reach on Legendary where Elites stick you 99/100 with grenades in mid-air, or just insta-kill you with a single punch with full shields. they need to sit down and think about what they want to do to set a remake apart from the original.

the original game was so based on running and gunning with almost no stealth or the likes, how about introducing some new mechanics into the game-play. personally think the run and gun style has been done to death, make a Halo Remake more mature, more complex, more grand and more tactical. think a lot can be learned from games like Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, in terms of adding nice little touches to improve overall game-play.

  • 05.12.2011 4:20 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
I like the magazine sizes where they are at the minute, sixty rounds felt like too much in the original game, too much spraying and not enough short, controlled bursts. also don't bring back the one shot killing Hunter with a pistol, that was stupid as hell and made Hunters useless at everything.


Indeed. I doubt the Hunter issue will resurface, I mean, it's been taken away since Halo 2, I highly doubt they would return to making a Hunter's worst enemy a Magnum.

And I also have to agree with the magazine of the AR. While I do miss spray n' pray'ing like crazy, I do love the current Assualt Rifle in Reach. Sometime's it surprises me how accurate it can get if you use it appropiatly with short controlled bursts.

  • 05.12.2011 4:21 PM PDT

What if they let you play as both John and the ODSTs?

  • 05.12.2011 4:22 PM PDT


Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
Reach made the Spartan Laser pointless


Bull

  • 05.12.2011 4:23 PM PDT

If they actually remade CE, despite everything pointing against it, I'd ask for this.

A pistol. Not a pocket anti-everything sniper rifle.

  • 05.12.2011 4:24 PM PDT

more touches like that are needed, it is after-all a game based around a soldier on the battlefield, soldiers as well trained as SPARTAN troopers don't spray, so eliminating the enormous magazine has forced players to adapt their style to suit the smaller magazines, therefore forcing controlled bursts, therefore more like an actual soldier would.

I agree completely, I don't think the issue will re-appear, to the contrary Hunters are now harder than ever to take down. that part in New Alexandria with rocket launchers and what not, they are still hard to kill, which is good!

can understand why the sniper rifle is so effective against targets like that, it is after-all an anti-materiel rifle like a Barrett AS-50.

most people are saying 'don't change too much of the original game', where as I think 343 are in a unique position to re-invent and improve a great Universe, perhaps re-invent is the wrong word, reboot, recompile perhaps might be better. would love to see better trooper/technology symbiosis in Halo, like modern times where a special forces operator can call in air strikes, or artillery strikes, has wrist mounted GPS or tactical display giving him real-time information about where his friendlies are and where the bad guys are, un-manned drones for aerial recon and such. there is so so so much that can be improved with the Universe without alienating the fans too much.

  • 05.12.2011 4:28 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
If they actually remade CE, despite everything pointing against it, I'd ask for this.

A pistol. Not a pocket anti-everything sniper rifle.


Halo 2's Magnum was the best IMO. Without counting Halo CE/Reach Magnum.

It had a decent damage on shields(unlike the ODST's silenced magnum, which you might as well throw the magnum at you enemy for all the damage it does against shields) and an incredibly high rate of fire and headshot capable.

Not the best secoundary weapon to have, but defenantly better than most.

  • 05.12.2011 4:28 PM PDT

Name's WIlliam,

For the love of God it's pronounced mister-shag, not misters-hag.

Why not use Reach's weapons?

  • 05.12.2011 4:32 PM PDT

Posted by: Docterweegee

Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
Reach made the Spartan Laser pointless


Bull


seriously? I find that 99 times out of 100 if there is a Spartan Laser and a Sniper Rifle up for grabs, take the Sniper Rifle every single time, it has more shots, its easier too use, it has absolutely zero lead time and it can kill things like Ghosts in a single shot if you hit them in the right place, has a better scope and doesn't disclose your position just before you fire.

when me and me mate are gunning in the Warthog don't know how many times we've avoided certain death against lasers because of the targeting laser, then me proceeding to pepper them with LAAG fire, un-scoping them and making them miss, doesn't happen as often against rifle users.

same goes for the Banshee, the targeting beam can give you the crucial split second to perform an evasion, the rifle affords no such luxury and couple shots junk the Banshee, with no lead time that is piece of blam! the right not only badly damages the Warthog it also flips it if you are off the ground, which can be useful in some situations. also the rifle seems to have unlimited range as well, you can simple as you like headshot someone across the entire of Hemorrage with no worries, also again no delay between pushing trigger and them dying.

the most annoying weapon in the entire of Reach however is the Focus Rifle, its so irritating! it doesn't really kill you often but it constantly messes with your precision killing because it causes scope to shut down every single time it even clips you!

  • 05.12.2011 4:35 PM PDT

If they remake Halo CE I would prefer a graphics update and a firefight with the flood and MAYBE XBL mp.

  • 05.12.2011 4:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dedworth Mean
... do you think that 343i would mess with the lore?

The reason I bring this up is a thread I saw related to how Humans were NOT Reclaimers (in the sense they are not the same species) when all throughout the games it was implied they were! Then Cryptum comes out and that all changes!

Not that any of this bothers me, but do you think if they were to do a remake would 343i take liberties with the lore, possibly retconning it? Maybe providing The Master Chief with a Mark VI MJOLNIR suit to fit in with his more iconic image?

Introducing plot lines from say Halo - The Flood novel to flesh out their universe?

Do you think 343i would take more liberties with a remake that they essentially own now? Would they shape it to fit THEIR idea of what Halo is?


What? Cryptum didn't change anything about reclaimers. I don't know what you're talking about.


[Edited on 05.12.2011 4:51 PM PDT]

  • 05.12.2011 4:51 PM PDT

there only changing a few things, mainly terrain design and AI design (the different kinda of elites and stuff) and terrain design is like how narrow this path is, what color it is, how sharp this corner is, etc, but they are mainly changing the art assets(ex. when u are in forge world, the halo ring is a piece of rt, not environment, all backgrounds are. they will be replacing those)they also wont mess with music. period.

  • 05.12.2011 5:21 PM PDT

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  • 05.12.2011 5:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dedworth Mean
... do you think that 343i would mess with the lore?

The reason I bring this up is a thread I saw related to how Humans were NOT Reclaimers (in the sense they are not the same species) when all throughout the games it was implied they were! Then Cryptum comes out and that all changes!

Not that any of this bothers me, but do you think if they were to do a remake would 343i take liberties with the lore, possibly retconning it? Maybe providing The Master Chief with a Mark VI MJOLNIR suit to fit in with his more iconic image?

Introducing plot lines from say Halo - The Flood novel to flesh out their universe?

Do you think 343i would take more liberties with a remake that they essentially own now? Would they shape it to fit THEIR idea of what Halo is?


What? Cryptum didn't change anything about reclaimers. I don't know what you're talking about.


I didnt say they changed it, I said the IDEA that Humans were Reclaimers changed with Cryptum.

  • 05.13.2011 11:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: Dedworth Mean
Maybe providing The Master Chief with a Mark VI MJOLNIR suit to fit in with his more iconic image?

For me the iconic image of Master Chief is him wearing Mjolnir Mark V. The most memorable picture of him for me is the cover of Halo CE. It would also be very stupid and break canon if he was given a Mark VI. There is no reason to make changes like that.

What comes to other things, they really shouldn't mess with anything that impacts canon or gameplay. Just add things like Forge, Matchmaking and maybe teather. I really wouldn't want to see them mess up something as important as a Halo CE remake.

  • 05.13.2011 11:57 AM PDT

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