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Subject: If the whole UNSC infantry was S-IIs....

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg

Ok let's say the entire UNSC infantry was made up of S-IIs in MJOLNIR armor. It can be Mk. IV-VI. Doesn't matter. It has been like this since the beginning of the war.
How do you think the war would have gone?

Me, I think that the UNSC would have won every single ground operation, but would have probably have lost many of the ship to ship space battles.

[Edited on 05.12.2011 8:38 PM PDT]

  • 05.12.2011 8:36 PM PDT

no more covenant

  • 05.12.2011 8:37 PM PDT

In Space we would still lose many battles, in Land we will have MANY victories although Spartans are useless in Space Ships unless they board other ships so we might have the upper hand in land but it's useless without arial support. So many Spartans would die when Covenant ships arrive and glass the planets they are standing on or destroying the ships they are riding.

  • 05.12.2011 8:41 PM PDT

First off, half of their infantry would be dead. Another ~20% would be crippled beyond effectiveness. And they would be bankrupt.

  • 05.12.2011 8:44 PM PDT

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg


Posted by: Omanisat
First off, half of their infantry would be dead. Another ~20% would be crippled beyond effectiveness. And they would be bankrupt.


Let's say the survival rate of individuals that went through the augmentation was 100%. Also let's say the UNSC had infinite funding.

[Edited on 05.12.2011 8:47 PM PDT]

  • 05.12.2011 8:45 PM PDT

I don't think it would make any difference, beyond making the Covenant more leery of committing ground forces. As FoR says, any victory on the ground turned into a defeat in orbit.

  • 05.12.2011 8:49 PM PDT

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg


Posted by: Omanisat
I don't think it would make any difference, beyond making the Covenant more leery of committing ground forces. As FoR says, any victory on the ground turned into a defeat in orbit.


true, but if they're all Spartans, wouldn't they have great military tactics? Couldn't the Spartans be trained to be pilots? Keyes was pretty good and so was Cole. Imagine if they had the military training Spartans had

  • 05.12.2011 8:57 PM PDT

How would training in infantry tactic helped them win space battles? And even a Spartan pilot can't dodge a pulse laser.

  • 05.12.2011 8:59 PM PDT


Posted by: ImmortalJoshua

Posted by: Omanisat
I don't think it would make any difference, beyond making the Covenant more leery of committing ground forces. As FoR says, any victory on the ground turned into a defeat in orbit.


true, but if they're all Spartans, wouldn't they have great military tactics? Couldn't the Spartans be trained to be pilots? Keyes was pretty good and so was Cole. Imagine if they had the military training Spartans had
The Covenant would still win though. Not every move can be a keys loop. Eventually the technological advantage the covenant has would wear them down.

  • 05.12.2011 9:00 PM PDT

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg

Keyes loop

  • 05.12.2011 9:06 PM PDT

Wouldn't make much difference. The UNSC can already win most ground engagements, and a small SPARTAN deployment secured victory. Space battle are where it is critical to win, and is where the USNC lost.

SPARTANS, like any special forces are effective due to their small size, unconventional tactics and secretive nature. Taking this away makes SIIs nothing more than really effective cannon fodder. :/

  • 05.12.2011 9:11 PM PDT
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They wouldn't have to worry about IIIs. I hate the IIIs.

  • 05.12.2011 10:47 PM PDT

Am I supposed to write something funny here?

Mass produce boarding craft instead of frigates -> victory

  • 05.13.2011 4:14 AM PDT

Isn't that what Colonel Ackerson wanted to eventually achieve with the S-III program?

OT: Covenant=boned

wait scratch that, the only time we really won was on the ground. In space, Spartans can't do much and thats when you NEED to win.

It'd actually probably be an even fight either way now.

  • 05.13.2011 5:12 AM PDT

"A LIE is a LIE"


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Well, ONE drop ship filled with spartans has the capability to take over an entire covenant ship.

  • 05.13.2011 5:14 AM PDT

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Punch The Keyes For God Sake!

The war would have been over in about 4 years.

  • 05.13.2011 5:23 AM PDT
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Halo 2 isn't dead jorge...... its just missing in action.
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Bankrupt UNSC, Lot more surviving planets, Not alot of ships, Loads dead...A very big change. The way it went was better then this way. IMO.

  • 05.13.2011 12:39 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: Rat051
They wouldn't have to worry about IIIs.
I hate the IIIs.


Relevant!

I'd say the outcome would be the same, Humanity would get destroyed in Space.

[Edited on 05.13.2011 1:18 PM PDT]

  • 05.13.2011 12:48 PM PDT