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Subject: Could Spartans customize their own armor?
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All SPARTANs are Navy personnel and the Navy have has more strict uniform regulations. Because Noble Team is under Army jurisdiction, they are permitted to customize their gear.

  • 05.13.2011 3:17 PM PDT

Jorge is like the Chuck Norris of Halo, so he can do it.

  • 05.13.2011 3:21 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Kaiba034
Halo Reach isn't cannon and you all know it!

Wrong.

And really I don't see why they shouldn't be able to. Sometimes the situation requires more than standard issue tools.

  • 05.13.2011 3:41 PM PDT

would be willing to say SPARTAN troopers would be permitted to customise their armour according to their needs. as Halsey says 'what are you a puppet or a SPARTAN...' implying that they are granted freedoms from outside authority a lot of the time, they are after-all very intelligent soldiers with higher intelligence than normal people.

the problem is, MJOLNIR is very complicated and very effective already so you'd have to ask yourself why would you want to tamper with something that works very well in the first place?

  • 05.15.2011 8:28 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

I would see it pretty stupid that Spartan's arent allowed to customize their own armor with whichever part functions better for their speciality.

This is why I like Emile so much, he made his armor unique by carving the skull.

[Edited on 05.15.2011 11:39 AM PDT]

  • 05.15.2011 11:39 AM PDT


Posted by: HipiO7
I would see it pretty stupid that Spartan's arent allowed to customize their own armor with whichever part functions better for their speciality.

This is why I like Emile so much, he made his armor unique by carving the skull.


The most amusing thing is when people said it affected his vision... which is completely and utterly false.

  • 05.15.2011 11:52 AM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
the problem is, MJOLNIR is very complicated and very effective already so you'd have to ask yourself why would you want to tamper with something that works very well in the first place?

Because sometimes there are situations where standard MJOLNIR won't cut it.

  • 05.15.2011 11:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: Kaiba034
Halo Reach isn't cannon and you all know it!
I'm sure that halo reach is cannon and can shoot cannon balls. I'm sure that Spartans are given armor variants based on their combat skills. Jun is a sniper so he received sniper armor. Also there's armor for different situations. Kurt wore EVA in Ghosts of Onyx when he was messing with a slipspace drive drive. Jorge wears Mark IV but it's been messed with. It's the first armor yo use energy shields. Also it has some other parts. I'm sure the Eva shoulder is not meant to be there but was the only piece they had. So I guess that shoulder or damaged and was replaced with the Eva shoulder. The red parts on his armor has been added as added protection. The yellow part of his armor is probably a replacement. Similar to when u see a red car with a white door. The green is all original mark iv

[Edited on 05.15.2011 1:20 PM PDT]

  • 05.15.2011 1:12 PM PDT


Posted by: ImmortalJoshua

Posted by: Kaiba034
Halo Reach isn't cannon and you all know it!
I'm sure that halo reach is cannon and can shoot cannon balls. I'm sure that Spartans are given armor variants based on their combat skills. Jun is a sniper so he received sniper armor. Also there's armor for different situations. Kurt wore EVA in Ghosts of Onyx when he was messing with a slipspace drive drive.


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
the problem is, MJOLNIR is very complicated and very effective already so you'd have to ask yourself why would you want to tamper with something that works very well in the first place?

Because sometimes there are situations where standard MJOLNIR won't cut it.


MJOLNIR is modular, allowing the removal and replacement of parts to meet user requirements. Halo 3 provides us with but a glimpse of these modular components.

NOBLE on the other hand has field modifications, not modular components. There are very few genuine MJOLNIR parts in the armoury.
What these are is up for discussion.

  • 05.15.2011 1:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kaiba034
Halo Reach isn't cannon and you all know it!

hey dip-blam!- bungie says GAME CANON > BOOK CANON

  • 05.15.2011 1:37 PM PDT


Posted by: RotaryCookie
NOBLE on the other hand has field modifications, not modular components. There are very few genuine MJOLNIR parts in the armoury.
What these are is up for discussion.


Bar the grenade belts/weapon pouches, is there any proof at all of them not being MJOLNIR parts? I mean, to be compatible they would need to be based off/built with MJOLNIR in mind.

  • 05.15.2011 1:49 PM PDT

What a waste....

Why would they need to?


I mean, there's nothing that the regular armor doesn't have that everything else does.

  • 05.15.2011 2:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Posted by: RotaryCookie
NOBLE on the other hand has field modifications, not modular components. There are very few genuine MJOLNIR parts in the armoury.
What these are is up for discussion.


Bar the grenade belts/weapon pouches, is there any proof at all of them not being MJOLNIR parts? I mean, to be compatible they would need to be based off/built with MJOLNIR in mind.


Indeed. All of them were designed or altered to function with the MJLONIR armor. Except some cases of course, like the ODST chest.

  • 05.15.2011 2:34 PM PDT


Posted by: Kaiba034
Halo Reach isn't cannon and you all know it!


This is what he meant by drifting from the reach fourm.

  • 05.15.2011 4:34 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: RotaryCookie
NOBLE on the other hand has field modifications, not modular components. There are very few genuine MJOLNIR parts in the armoury.
What these are is up for discussion.


Bar the grenade belts/weapon pouches, is there any proof at all of them not being MJOLNIR parts? I mean, to be compatible they would need to be based off/built with MJOLNIR in mind.


Circumstantial evidence, yes.
Hear me out before declaring me wrong. First off we have Halsey's comments. Noting NOBLEs modifications and stating that MJOLNIR was designed modular specifically to avoid that. This suggests that most of if not all of the variants that NOBLE wear are non-MJOLNIR.

Secondly a comparison to the CQB chest plate, where the "pouches" are built directly into armour, next to NOBLEs armour, where the pouches have been "strapped on" to the outside of the armour, or are held in place by means of webbing. Again this suggests customization of equipment instead of mission specific parts being issued.


I hasten to add this is mere speculation and my OPINION, but it does seem to make sense in my eyes.

  • 05.16.2011 6:50 AM PDT

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Posted by: Pipboy 3050
No they cant ONLY Jorge


Not entirely true. In the Fall of Reach one of the Spartans removes a component from another dead Spartan - so in theory they could exchange parts, so why not customise / upgrade their armour.


Dont worry, I said that as a joke. Of course other spartan can customise armour, it would be absurd of they couldent.


Spartan IIs do not change their armor, the armor was uni-sex and only the other spartans and halsey could tell who was who.

He wasn't customizing his armor, he needed a part for his armor that was failing, so he reluctantly took the part from his dead comrade.


I know that oh oracle of knowledge, I was pointing out that interchanging of parts is possible (as displayed in the field) so theoretically it is possible to customise parts if they were available - but thanks for reiterating my point.

  • 05.16.2011 7:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: ImmortalJoshua

Posted by: Kaiba034
Halo Reach isn't cannon and you all know it!
I'm sure that halo reach is cannon and can shoot cannon balls. I'm sure that Spartans are given armor variants based on their combat skills. Jun is a sniper so he received sniper armor. Also there's armor for different situations. Kurt wore EVA in Ghosts of Onyx when he was messing with a slipspace drive drive.


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
the problem is, MJOLNIR is very complicated and very effective already so you'd have to ask yourself why would you want to tamper with something that works very well in the first place?

Because sometimes there are situations where standard MJOLNIR won't cut it.


MJOLNIR is modular, allowing the removal and replacement of parts to meet user requirements. Halo 3 provides us with but a glimpse of these modular components.

NOBLE on the other hand has field modifications, not modular components. There are very few genuine MJOLNIR parts in the armoury.
What these are is up for discussion.

If I recall, there is a statement from Halsey about not changing the armor as well. There really was no reason to modify it hence why the only REAL modification any Spartan II made was Kelly who painted a small rabbit on her armor. The variants in Halo 3 were not canonical. It was not until Reach that these variants became a part of the Halo universe officially and even then they only exist because of the nature of the customization mechanic in Reach.

Still, it makes no sense they would have that many variations of Mark V armor when it had just been finished not a few days/weeks before the events of Reach.

  • 05.16.2011 11:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Still, it makes no sense they would have that many variations of Mark V armor when it had just been finished not a few days/weeks before the events of Reach.


That small bit has been retconned. Mark V was issued in November 2551. S-IIs were beyond active that year or a small bit of the book has been changed. Nothing major.

Plus those variations could have been finished alongside the base product.

[Edited on 05.16.2011 1:57 PM PDT]

  • 05.16.2011 1:56 PM PDT


Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Posted by: RotaryCookie

Posted by: ImmortalJoshua

Posted by: Kaiba034
Halo Reach isn't cannon and you all know it!
I'm sure that halo reach is cannon and can shoot cannon balls. I'm sure that Spartans are given armor variants based on their combat skills. Jun is a sniper so he received sniper armor. Also there's armor for different situations. Kurt wore EVA in Ghosts of Onyx when he was messing with a slipspace drive drive.


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
the problem is, MJOLNIR is very complicated and very effective already so you'd have to ask yourself why would you want to tamper with something that works very well in the first place?

Because sometimes there are situations where standard MJOLNIR won't cut it.


MJOLNIR is modular, allowing the removal and replacement of parts to meet user requirements. Halo 3 provides us with but a glimpse of these modular components.

NOBLE on the other hand has field modifications, not modular components. There are very few genuine MJOLNIR parts in the armoury.
What these are is up for discussion.

If I recall, there is a statement from Halsey about not changing the armor as well. There really was no reason to modify it hence why the only REAL modification any Spartan II made was Kelly who painted a small rabbit on her armor. The variants in Halo 3 were not canonical. It was not until Reach that these variants became a part of the Halo universe officially and even then they only exist because of the nature of the customization mechanic in Reach.

Still, it makes no sense they would have that many variations of Mark V armor when it had just been finished not a few days/weeks before the events of Reach.


Where did you hear that? I've never heard anywhere that any of the armory in Halo 3 was non-canon.

I suggest you go check out the videos on Waypoint, they had one quite recently talking about and explaining the origins of a lot of the different armor variants. And most of it is all stuff that could have easily been carried over from the Mark IV, such as the different shoulder pieces and probably some of the chest pieces as well.

  • 05.16.2011 4:06 PM PDT

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All SPARTANs are Navy personnel and the Navy have has more strict uniform regulations. Because Noble Team is under Army jurisdiction, they are permitted to customize their gear.
Imma go with this

  • 05.16.2011 4:13 PM PDT

The books mentioned Spartans learned to field repair and maintain their suits.

Jorge customised his and Halsey commented on that in Reach so why not?

I'd say not the normal operation but certainly possible.

  • 05.16.2011 9:39 PM PDT
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Armor variations are mostly cosmetic.

Exceptions are the HAZMAT and EVA suits.

Even so, the basic funtions of the armor (MJOLNIR, in this case) remains the same.

[Edited on 05.16.2011 9:45 PM PDT]

  • 05.16.2011 9:45 PM PDT

Most of the different armor was made by private military companies to be different armor. The Spartan 2's used different armor for what was needed. No one said they couldnt use different armor, they just chose to keep standard armor like a family thing. In Halo Reach the armor was aproved by someone even though it was discouraged. For nstance they
recon armor code card showed them askng permission to use it

  • 05.16.2011 10:00 PM PDT

And jorges helmet is a mark 4(i think) helmet fixed up for grenader tasks

  • 05.16.2011 10:02 PM PDT

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg

Um...........Halo 3 armor's being non-canon.......wtf?!
Anyway armor variations exist for several reasons.
As stated by Halo Haypoint, Samuel's death caused the creation of EOD armor.

  • 05.16.2011 10:50 PM PDT

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