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Subject: Can Oxygen and other gases go through energy shields?
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The Iroquois did not break the shields of the destroyer IT hit, and it was a much higher mass than the SoF, so it should have been going slower. Even so, the Iroquois was extremely fast. So speed doesn't seem to be a factor for Human or Covenant shields.


this makes no sense...? could you clarify what your trying to get across?
Earlier people were talking about how the SoF impacted the destroyer and didn't meet shields. One person didn't believe speed was a factor in that impact and in others. What I posted supports that by showing how the Iroquois (a much larger ship than the SoF, and much slower[though being pretty fast]) also hit a destroyer, and hit shields (at a much slower speed, probably)


Um...no. The Spirit of Fire is one of the UNSC's largest ship types, and the Iroquois is one of the smaller ship variants. There is a massive size difference. Where did you get the idea that the Iroquois is bigger?

Besides, what does mass matter in that situation? Iroquois made it's impact in space while Spirit of Fire made it in atmosphere. Atmosphere creates lots of air resistance while space creates none. (If we assume that the atmosphere inside the micro dyson sphere was high enough) Both ships would still be going faster than bullets in both situations.

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  • 05.14.2011 1:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
I was wondering, since energy shields can stop bullets and such, does that prevent anything?
I'm asking this because I am imagening that Elites are probably gonna sufficate if this the case.

Yes, they stop everything including air from passing through. Obviously energy shields were designed without the user's respiratory needs in mind. The reason Elite's don't suffocate is because they are aliens and don't have lungs, lucky for them. Spartan's on the other hand initially had lungs, but they were removed during the augmentation process, as well as their libido because there is no room for boners in MJOLNIR, and their bladder and bowls, because toilet time is a waste of time.

Five bucks says at least 3 users read this and think that Elites don't breath oxygen, and Spartans have no lungs.

  • 05.14.2011 2:03 PM PDT


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Posted by: switch 104 sv
Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
I was wondering, since energy shields can stop bullets and such, does that prevent anything?
I'm asking this because I am imagening that Elites are probably gonna sufficate if this the case.

Yes, they stop everything including air from passing through. Obviously energy shields were designed without the user's respiratory needs in mind. The reason Elite's don't suffocate is because they are aliens and don't have lungs, lucky for them. Spartan's on the other hand initially had lungs, but they were removed during the augmentation process, as well as their libido because there is no room for boners in MJOLNIR, and their bladder and bowls, because toilet time is a waste of time.

Five bucks says at least 3 users read this and think that Elites don't breath oxygen, and Spartans have no lungs.


Just hold on one goddamn minute. SPARTANS HAVE LUNGS NAO?!!11!?

  • 05.14.2011 2:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: switch 104 sv
Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
I was wondering, since energy shields can stop bullets and such, does that prevent anything?
I'm asking this because I am imagening that Elites are probably gonna sufficate if this the case.

Yes, they stop everything including air from passing through. Obviously energy shields were designed without the user's respiratory needs in mind. The reason Elite's don't suffocate is because they are aliens and don't have lungs, lucky for them. Spartan's on the other hand initially had lungs, but they were removed during the augmentation process, as well as their libido because there is no room for boners in MJOLNIR, and their bladder and bowls, because toilet time is a waste of time.

Five bucks says at least 3 users read this and think that Elites don't breath oxygen, and Spartans have no lungs.

I was being serious :P

  • 05.14.2011 4:59 PM PDT

What a waste....


Posted by: switch 104 sv
Posted by: Spartan1065
Posted by: switch 104 sv
Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
I was wondering, since energy shields can stop bullets and such, does that prevent anything?
I'm asking this because I am imagening that Elites are probably gonna sufficate if this the case.

Yes, they stop everything including air from passing through. Obviously energy shields were designed without the user's respiratory needs in mind. The reason Elite's don't suffocate is because they are aliens and don't have lungs, lucky for them. Spartan's on the other hand initially had lungs, but they were removed during the augmentation process, as well as their libido because there is no room for boners in MJOLNIR, and their bladder and bowls, because toilet time is a waste of time.

Five bucks says at least 3 users read this and think that Elites don't breath oxygen, and Spartans have no lungs.

I was being serious :P
I sense troll.

Note: I failed a little bit back there. Disregard my previous posts.

  • 05.14.2011 6:23 PM PDT

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I'm not a troll, just sarcastic. This topic is pointless as the answer is pretty obvious.

  • 05.14.2011 6:25 PM PDT

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I guess that energy shields just protect from objects that are goIng a certain speed. So theoretically, something like a ship going full speed couldn't go through a bubble shield

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Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
I guess that energy shields just protect from objects that are goIng a certain speed. So theoretically, something like a ship going full speed couldn't go through a bubble shield


If a vehicle can go through a bubble shield, so can a ship.

  • 05.14.2011 7:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
I guess that energy shields just protect from objects that are goIng a certain speed. So theoretically, something like a ship going full speed couldn't go through a bubble shield

No. Shields are always there and deflect any surface at any velocity. This is why Spartans weaken the shields on their palms and feet. They need the friction to walk and hold objects.

  • 05.14.2011 8:00 PM PDT

was just about to say where did you get the idea that the Destroyer in Fall of Reach was bigger than Spirit of Fire, which is like two and half kilometres long if I remember correctly. mass has a lot to do with it, since mass and energy are one in the same.

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Well, I believe those shields are designed to absorb high-speed impacts. So, I don't think that shields can prevent anything. Same concept with Spartans using shields, and energy swords seem to completely overwhelm the shields due to being slow-speed motion, which those shields aren't designed for it.

Another probable proof is during halo wars, you can see spirit of fire colliding the destroyer which probably had shields up but it was gone when spirit of fire rammed to it and notice deck guns caused damage on destroyer while plasma blobs blow up deck guns and rip the hull apart.

Watch this footage. Spirit of Fire vs Covenant Destroyer in shield world

Basically, I don't those shields are designed to stop ANYTHING; only limited to high-speed object/projectile on impacts.

[Edited on 05.13.2011 10:55 PM PDT]

Depends on what you consider high speed. I believe combined speed of both ships matched or was higher than speed of a bullet. It could also be that the ship wasn't on alert and wasn't keeping it's shields up. That was pretty unexpectable accident and it could very well be that they didn't have enough time to put their shield systems on.


No that ship was ordered to be stationed there by the arbiter. And there is a shield around the ship, you can see that the Spirit of Fire and its weapons are not actually touching the body of the Covenant ship itself

  • 05.14.2011 9:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mr Naughty Body
It's been a long time since I read it, but I think the energy shields on Spartans (and therefore probably on Elites) only protect from objects moving faster than a certain speed.

I can't really remember though.


Yes, if not, how would the pick objects like weapons and ammo? Or even touch the floor, that's why when you get fall damage, you loose the shields.

  • 05.14.2011 9:38 PM PDT

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Shields DO NOT activate for fast moving projectiles, they are always on. It is stated in The Fall of Reach that master chief increases the shielding on his feet to traverse the minefield.
Not turns it on, increases it.

  • 05.14.2011 10:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: GeorgeBaggy
Posted by: tsassi2
Posted by: raganok99
Well, I believe those shields are designed to absorb high-speed impacts. So, I don't think that shields can prevent anything. Same concept with Spartans using shields, and energy swords seem to completely overwhelm the shields due to being slow-speed motion, which those shields aren't designed for it.

Another probable proof is during halo wars, you can see spirit of fire colliding the destroyer which probably had shields up but it was gone when spirit of fire rammed to it and notice deck guns caused damage on destroyer while plasma blobs blow up deck guns and rip the hull apart.

Watch this footage. Spirit of Fire vs Covenant Destroyer in shield world

Basically, I don't those shields are designed to stop ANYTHING; only limited to high-speed object/projectile on impacts.

[Edited on 05.13.2011 10:55 PM PDT]

Depends on what you consider high speed. I believe combined speed of both ships matched or was higher than speed of a bullet. It could also be that the ship wasn't on alert and wasn't keeping it's shields up. That was pretty unexpectable accident and it could very well be that they didn't have enough time to put their shield systems on.


No that ship was ordered to be stationed there by the arbiter. And there is a shield around the ship, you can see that the Spirit of Fire and its weapons are not actually touching the body of the Covenant ship itself

It has no shields. If it had, they would have started to flicker the moment the ships collided. At 0:25 you an even see the direct contact.

  • 05.14.2011 10:37 PM PDT

Also, wouldn't the shield-bearer levitate off the ground and be unable to drive vehicles, activate switches, etc?

EDIT: Never Mind

[Edited on 05.15.2011 1:09 AM PDT]

  • 05.15.2011 1:07 AM PDT
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Also, wouldn't the shield-bearer levitate off the ground and be unable to drive vehicles, activate switches, etc?

Yes, when Master Chief first received Mjolnir Mark V he felt his movement oily as he slid on the ground because of shields. That's why shields are usually lowered on parts like hands, feet and tires (if humans decided to add shields to vehicles) to be able to interact with objects. In zero G enviroment at least feet are used on highest power settings as there is nothig for them to interact. Small Covenant vehicles don't even use shields and if they used, it wouldn't affect movement of the vehicle as it uses anti-gravity to float and move.

  • 05.15.2011 1:13 AM PDT
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Energy Swords penetrate shields because it's like a continuous barrage of a very thin plasma beam that cuts directly into the shield and destroys it. This is the reason why Spartans with overshields can survive an Energy Sword lunge.

  • 05.15.2011 1:28 AM PDT

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How does the gun stick on the spartans back then if there's shields?

  • 05.15.2011 7:30 AM PDT

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Really strong magnets on the bottom of a table can move coins around on the top. Same principle here; the shields are the table, the suit has strong magnets, the guns are magnetic. Either that or the shields automatically weaken to allow them to pass through and the seal over them.

[Edited on 05.15.2011 7:39 AM PDT]

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